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Hold out. There's no reason to pull the trigger on one now when the 2080 ti is coming soon! Wait and watch and you'll find that sellers drop the price of their 1080 tis for an upgrade.
That's my plan, I think the newer RTX 2080's/2080 Ti's are something I'd like to see in reviews but I think for the money Nvidia are just mad trying to push people to spend so much.. But people will....

I would specifically recommend AGAINST the Armor coolers. In my experience, they're no better than the FE coolers. I would also recommend looking hard at the 1070 Ti since there is so little difference between it and the 1080.
I've heard some not so great things about these models, but I'm not sure how true it is, will look forward to finding out :)
 

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I would specifically recommend AGAINST the Armor coolers. In my experience, they're no better than the FE coolers. I would also recommend looking hard at the 1070 Ti since there is so little difference between it and the 1080.

Edit: This is what I'm referring to, w1zzard's statement about FE coolers: "The cooler still runs above 80°C during serious gaming, which means gaming performance will be slightly reduced by Boost to keep temperatures in check. " He said it better somewhere else, about how the FE coolers have allowed their GPU's to get too hot and therefore limit performance.
I have had 2 of the more modern designs that were problem free, quiet and cooled well but I may have just got lucky. As for the 1070Ti, I completely agree and I was going to suggest that as there is not a great deal of difference, however over here I couldn't find any deals on the Ti so currently the 1080 can be had for either cheaper or thereabouts.
 
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In any situation where you have a new generation of a 'thing" coming out ... yes, wait. Wher eit be a carm CPUm GFX card or just about anythiung else.... and discount you get in anticipation of the new "thing" arriving, will be smaller than the discount for all those that are left when the new 'thing " actually arrives". Moreover, you may find that there is a new thing is actually cheaper than the old thing ... for example, a new 2060 may be cheaper than a old 1070. But at this point no one has any idea how the new cards will actually perform . So, yes, resist the urge and desire for getting a new toy, sit and be patient until you are in a position to make an informed choice.
 

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I would specifically recommend AGAINST the Armor coolers. In my experience, they're no better than the FE coolers. I would also recommend looking hard at the 1070 Ti since there is so little difference between it and the 1080.

Edit: This is what I'm referring to, w1zzard's statement about FE coolers: "The cooler still runs above 80°C during serious gaming, which means gaming performance will be slightly reduced by Boost to keep temperatures in check. " He said it better somewhere else, about how the FE coolers have allowed their GPU's to get too hot and therefore limit performance.
Just looking around the web and cant see any mention of over temps.

Most say the card runs 70c and around under load.

So have i made a mistake buying this model?
 

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Just looking around the web and cant see any mention of over temps.

Most say the card runs 70c and around under load.

So have i made a mistake buying this model?
The Bumblebee was right that there have be issues in the past with the cooler performance with some of the Armor's, but I am fairly certain they are not with current gen 1070/1080 models, the reviews speak for themselves, take a look at this page regarding cooler performance and noise, nothing to worry about here.......

https://thetechaltar.com/msi-gtx-1080-8g-oc-review/3/
 
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My experience was with a single GTX 1080 Ti that had a very hard time staying below 80°. If others are saying that the cooler works well on the 1080, then I should be ignored. I'd rather pay extra for a Gaming or ASUS Strix model, because of their history of cool, quiet and longevity.
 

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I'd tend to go with EVGA cards myself, but a FTW card I believe is the top dog but you do pay a bit more for it, same as the Strix cards :) I suppose you can get what you pay for :)
 
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Find 1070ti at the same price or wait.
 
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It's easy enough to review past cards and see which designs have done well. For me, it's more of a matter of which to avoid, the which ones to target.

1. Avoid all reference designs
2. Avoid EVGA SC series, since the 5xx generation, EVGA has historically used the reference PCB design and overlockers have burned quite a few up trying to hit OCs that other AI vendors routinely accomplished. Wit the 970SC, the design was deficient in that 1/3 of the heat sink actually "missed" the GPU (later corrected with SSC model). With the 10xx series, oth the SC and FTW designs were deficient and overclockers were again burning them up. This was addressed by a cooling repair kit which users could request which provided the missing thermal pads necessary to keep VRMs and memory chips adequately cooled.
3. After that, it's all about the numbers....which one scores the highest, which one hits what temps and at what noise level. TPUs reviews do a great job of providing this info. Take note that then idle temps will be higher on the "better cards" which turn off the fans when temps below 60C. of course, better cooling oft means more noise as does higher OCs ....but anything under 70 is more than fine

Card / OC Temps / Sound level

ASUS GTX 1070 Ti Strix C64°/C29 dBA
Palit GTX 1070 Ti Super JetStream C66°/C30 dBA
Colorful GTX 1070 Ti iGame Vulcan X Top C67°/C32 dBA
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming 69°/C29 dBA
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Titanium C69°/C30 dBA

EVGA GTX 1070 Ti FTW2
C72°/C29 dBA
GTX 1070 Ti FE C83° / C38 dBA
 
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I personally think you could of gotten a better buy on ebay… but theres an element of risk involved and i know its nice to just get a brand new gpu. I went ebay route and got lucky with mine... good luck with that card though. it will serve you well.:toast:
 
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so upon buying the 1080 yesterday for 425£,ebuyer have dropped the price to 399£ + destiny 2 free.(which i play all the time)

bloody typical.

https://www.ebuyer.com/749711-msi-gtx-1080-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5x-graphics-card-gtx-1080-armor-8g-oc
When that happened to me when I bought my GTX 580's at Scan, I contacted them and they refunded the difference :) I'd definitely give them a shout back or if they won't say then I'd like a full refund when I return the product... Should work no problem :)
 
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Man that sucks! You might contact them and ask for at least the game with just the one day difference. Some tailors will do it, some won’t. Depends on if they want your repeat business.
When that happened to me when I bought my GTX 580's at Scan, I contacted them and they refunded the difference :) I'd definitely give them a shout back or if they won't say then I'd like a full refund when I return the product... Should work no problem :)
yea i think i will do.

will report back with the result.
 

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so upon buying the 1080 yesterday for 425£,ebuyer have dropped the price to 399£ + destiny 2 free.(which i play all the time)

bloody typical.

:) your well within the 7 Days Covered by the UK Distance Buying Laws Hint act before you install it
and return that " over priced Polished Turd " :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5tzLGdyC8FpBvKSr1GS4WLy/distance-selling-regulations
The regulations say that you:

• must be given clear information about the goods or services before you buy. This is called pre-purchase information

• must receive written information after you have bought the goods or services

• have a right to cancel your order within a seven day cooling-off period
 
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:) your well within the 7 Days Covered by the UK Distance Buying Laws Hint act before you install it
and return that " over priced Polished Turd " :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5tzLGdyC8FpBvKSr1GS4WLy/distance-selling-regulations
The regulations say that you:

• must be given clear information about the goods or services before you buy. This is called pre-purchase information

• must receive written information after you have bought the goods or services

• have a right to cancel your order within a seven day cooling-off period
lol

polished turd..havent heard that in a while.

its still quite cheap for a new 1080 though.
 
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Damn it
Have now received the gtx only to realise i need an 8 pin connector aswell as the 6 pin.
 
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Damn it
Have now received the gtx only to realise i need an 8 pin connector aswell as the 6 pin.
That's because your power supply won't handle it most likely.
 
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damn.

i thought 500w and upwards was enough.

what psu would you recommend?
Nvidia recommend around a 650-750w power supply, I can't really recommend any since I only stick to 80+ platinum fully modular units I've had an excellent experience with both my power pro 11 750w and my seasonic snow silent 750w
 
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That's because your power supply won't handle it most likely.
Before we go there, lets find out the specs of the PSU that he has. Is that an HX-520?
 
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Display(s) ElectriQ 4k 28" TN 60hz / Samsung 931cw /1080p 17.3" laptop
Case Corsair Carbide 600c/Be quiet! Dark base 700/Lego pc case/clevo x7200
Audio Device(s) Hyper x cloud revolver s
Power Supply Seasonic snow silent 750w/Be quiet power pro 11 750w
Mouse Mad Catz Rat Pro X (x4, one with broken off scroll wheel) / Lynx bluetooth controllers x3
Keyboard Havit gaming keyboard (amazon keyboard+mouse bundle)
Software Windows 10 pro + Kali linux
Benchmark Scores Too many to fit here, but here's one. https://valid.x86.fr/eduleq
i mean i wanted change the psu this year anyways .
Take a look at the "PSU tier" chart - that'd help a lot, only stick to top end units.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
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Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
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