Discussion in 'News' started by malware, May 22, 2008.
Probably the best analogy of the situation I've heard.
Yup, but babies are usually pretty similar to their brothers if they come from the same father.
Can't use the tech porn sentence after all this talk of babies...
... Pictures, more information?
Bah, would NVidia lose millions if they let people in on their upcoming products and release a proper picture? Why are they acting so sissy?
Tesla C870 Gpu
Can the new cards be based on this, tesla C870 Specs, Price 1100. plus, Online at Nvdiva about $680. US
It's the other way round. C870 is a derivative of G80.
Yep, something like that could mean the end of a more dominant company in graphics card market. Seems like Nvidia is struggling or holding back, either way, to reveal their plans would compromise the advantage they currently have and allow competitors to take advantage.
What advantage? We already know what each company has in store for us, what's the big deal in letting out proper pictures? It's like big automobile companies showcase their upcoming products months before release and everyone knows what car is about to come out.
I'm talking about pictures and of how certain tech-websites are being bitchy in letting out only tiny/monochrome pics of the card and PCB, as if when it comes out everyone's going to be "ZOMG Buyy eettt!!!1" no, everyone knows it's a high-end thing and only a minority of the buyers would plan to buy it.
Realistically, companies make last minute changes to clock speeds through BIOS updates and adjust pricing to provide a compelling price / performance situation for each card, especially when the competing launches are so close to each other.
It's sad, but both companies hope to have a *really* compelling advantage in price / performance during the first review phase (which is done right before launch) because these are the reviews read by a majority of early adopters, and whatever you do afterwards to adjust, that first judgement has a huge impact on sales.
So why hold your cards so close to your chest? It's because you are afraid your competitor will somehow use this information to adjust their launch to make their competing card more ... competitive. If there was no immediate competition and you were just competing against your own old cards, then the hype would flow well in advance.
Exactly! People seem to forget that the G80 was revolutionary in it's architecture. Then comes along the G92 and they are up in arms that it's not AS revolutionary as the G80. Well wth did they expect, it was only one year later.
For the majority of games on the market, a single top end (and very affordable now) Nvidia card, will lay waste. Why must we see the introduction of a brand new architecture? So we can load up Fraps and jerk-off to the sight of a solid 150fps 24/7?
Everything Nvidia(and in some ways, ATi) has done since the G80, has been purposeful it seems - The GT, the new GTS, the 9800 series - They were simply tuning, tweaking and slight upgrading their product line up, to ensure two things : Market dominance, and 'keeping with the times/a.k.a. keeping their generic consumer base.'
They accomplished both with ease. Now nearly two years after G80, we see a new card to emerge that's apparently going to be fairly impressive. Even if it's not a new architecture,
W H O C A R E S !?!?!?
Even S3 has implemented DX10.1
And yes it's an important feature that improves AA performance drastically if implemented.
Sooner or later (that is within 6 months) every DX10 game will have this 10.1 patch.
So the G200 series won't be lasting as long as the 8800 series did.
Read this: (+ reader comments below the article too)
"DX10.1 brings the ability to read those sub-samples to the party via MSBRW. To the end user, this means that once DX10.1 hits, you can click the AA button on your shiny new game and have it actually do something. This is hugely important."
Found this in a Portuguese site ...
Anyone know the estamted price to the Geforce GTX 260? If its to much i will just buy a 8 series card then.
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