NVidia Control Panel in Windows 10 problem

[Assimilator]

Problem is, at some stage it's guaranteed that Microsoft will go full retard and make a Windows Store login mandatory, at which stage everyone without an MS account will be SOL.

 

[John Naylor]

This has been the case for quote a while .... I avoid it by not letting Windows install any hardware drivers and installing from the nVidia drivers site.

 

[newtekie1]

I don't allow that kind of access to the internet. If a program needs the internet as a part of it's primary function, then yes. We're talking about drivers and the control panel that manages them. They have no business getting on the net and it is not allowed.

If you have that level of unnecessary security, you have to be prepared when it breaks stuff, cause it will.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Problem is, at some stage it's guaranteed that Microsoft will go full retard and make a Windows Store login mandatory, at which stage everyone without an MS account will be SOL.

Not sure I agree with that. It's possible, but Microsoft knows they need to improve their standing with the public, not make it worse..

If you have that level of unnecessary security,

Opinion. I have good reasons for maintaining that strict level of security.

you have to be prepared when it breaks stuff, cause it will.

Not really. Haven't had any problems so far, and this thread doesn't count. The Control Panel is supposed to be included with the drivers, such is common sense. The option to run the "app" as an alternative should always be the choice of the user.

 

[Regeneration]

Re-installed Windows 10 on my HTPC.

Nvidia Control Panel wasn't included with the Nvidia drivers. DCH is the default now.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Re-installed Windows 10 on my HTPC.

Nvidia Control Panel wasn't included with the Nvidia drivers. DCH is the default now.

Yeah, really pathetic and lame IMO. Grab the non-DCH drivers.

 

[Regeneration]

If you go to Nvidia's website, and pick "All Nvidia Drivers":

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

DCH is the default and there is no way to change it. To get the standard driver, one must click on the "Beta and Older Drivers":

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

Microsoft shoved Candy Crush and other junk to my clean Windows 10 Home installation.

 

[lexluthermiester]

there is no way to change it

There is. Once you see the download button link, copy and paste(right click) the link into a new tab/window, remove the "-dch" part of the link and you get the standard drivers.
Example, the link provided for my RTX2080 defaults to;
"https://www.nvidia.com/content/Driv...international-dch-whql.exe&lang=us&type=TITAN"
However, if you modify the link in the following way you get the standard drivers which include the control panel;
"https://www.nvidia.com/content/Driv...bit-international-whql.exe&lang=us&type=TITAN"

The link from "Geforce.com" is as follows;
"https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/446.14/446.14-desktop-win10-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe"
And is modified as follows;
"https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/446.14/446.14-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe"

 

[Candor]

Thanks for the links guys. This has been frustrating me for months.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for the links guys. This has been frustrating me for months.

You're welcome! Keep in mind, those links are for RTX2080 drivers. If you have a different card, make sure you select the right drivers.

 

[Candor]

Yes of course. Brain is engaged

 

[Vayra86]

Problem is, at some stage it's guaranteed that Microsoft will go full retard and make a Windows Store login mandatory, at which stage everyone without an MS account will be SOL.

Im staying lightyears away from that DCH shit and once it becomes mandatory in some way I am off to camp Red definitively.

Not going to roll along with MSs Store push and suffer its inconsistencies and requirements.

 

[W1zzard]

Im staying lightyears away from that DCH shit and once it becomes mandatory in some way I am off to camp Red definitively.

Not going to roll along with MSs Store push and suffer its inconsistencies and requirements.

This is not Microsoft's fault. AMD drivers are DCH, yet have no Store control panel, so it is possible

 

[Vayra86]

This is not Microsoft's fault. AMD drivers are DCH, yet have no Store control panel, so it is possible

Fault or not, they are enabling it and I dont see the added value. Its also a baby step into yet another Store you have to get into with account etc. Lots of nonsense for just a driver. As if GFE wasnt enough

 

[Mussels]

according to the NV page you can now just install the regular driver over the top and it changes off DCH, with a clean install.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I just installed Windows 10 and went to install the driver. Rebooted and got a pop-up notification that the control panel could not be found. It then tried to send me to the MS store, which because I'm using a customized install, is not present on the system.

Am I missing something or has NVidia pulled a sneaky and removed the control panel from the driver install to try and force MS store adoption?

EDIT;
In TPU's driver download section, there are Standard and DCH drivers. I can not find the Standard set in NVidia.com nor Geforce.com. Does anyone know the difference?

EDIT2;
Just tried the 441.87's that I downloaded earlier this year and the control panel is present. This must be a recent change then?

Nvidia is trying to sneak in DCH drivers by default. You have to be really diligent about giving them the middle finger now.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nvidia is trying to sneak in DCH drivers by default. You have to be really diligent about giving them the middle finger now.

Truly boneheaded move.

 

[newtekie1]

Nvidia is trying to sneak in DCH drivers by default. You have to be really diligent about giving them the middle finger now.

Just like AMD did a long time ago...

 

[AAF Optimus]

The basic difference between standard and DCH drivers is that in the DCH version, NVIDIA simply separated the Desktop executables from the Video Control Panel, along with their dependencies (libraries), packaged them into the UWP format (.Appx; .AppxBundle; .Msix; .MsixBundle), making it available through from the MS Store under the name "NVIDIA Control Panel" and removed them from the copy lines of the INF files (**. CopyList).

By the way, you realized that the HSA (Hardware Support Application) doesn't always work. I think there is an inefficiency in this automatic installation of the MS Store (Windows PushtoInstall Service).