NVIDIA Removes Restriction on ATI GPUs with NVIDIA GPUs Processing PhysX

[newtekie1]

It isn't surprising, and btarunner pretty much hit the nail right on the head, this is done so they can clear out old weaker GPUs as PhysX cards. A quick trip over to eVGADIA...I mean eVGA...and they have huge adverts on the main page that say "GT 240 Makes a great Dedicated PhysX card!" and "Maximize your gaming experience with a PhysX card!" They aren't even calling them graphics cards at this point, they are simply referring to them as PhysX cards...

thats nice, too bad i don't have a dual pcie Mobo.

next rig baby.

You've got a PCI-E x1 slot...buy a dremel and a super cheap $50 9800GT and make yourselft a PCI-E x1 PhysX card. I recently chopped PCI-E x16 card down to fit in a board with no x16 slot, and I was actually surprised at how easy it really was. I was affraid at first, and though it would be hard, but really it wasn't.

 

[RejZoR]

I think GeForce 8400GS 512MB should do the trick. I mean, was the actual PhysX PPU any faster than this thing?

 

[dadi_oh]

I think GeForce 8400GS 512MB should do the trick. I mean, was the actual PhysX PPU any faster than this thing?

Does the 8400GS have enough shaders though? I thought Physx needed 32 shaders minimum and I think the 8400GS only has 16?

 

[ShRoOmAlIsTiC]

32 min, 8400gs is 16. 9600 or better should be used. the agiea ppu was actually a little better then a 9600gt. There was a review somewhere a while back.

 

[kenkickr]

is it really worth it? I mean really, how many games actually use PhysX

I had a 8800gt running with my 5870 at one point, wasn't worth the trouble to set it up though.

There isn't a whole lot of games that use Physx but compared to Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, one of the first to support PPU Physx but it really didn't make much of a difference except lower avg framerates, there are games now that will blow your mind with GPU physx enabled like Batman Arkham Asylum and Metro 2033. Mirrors Edge is cool but I would definitely recommend BAA and Metro not just for the physx but tremendous gameplay and story.

I didn't think the 8400GS supported Physx.

 

[Mussels]

cool.... now i can slap in my 8600GT and... uhh.. well actually i have no games that use PhysX, lol. might aquire metro 2033 just for this.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

I like the idea of getting higher quality physics but I'm not convinced on having to add another card to play the 6 games that actually use Nvidia physx. It's a desperation move from Nvidia on 2 fronts. It encourages more developers to use their physx and helps to move EOL GPUs off the shelves. I would not be surprised to see Nvidia drop support for this after it no longer fits their agenda.

Still with that said the Physx in Maffia 2 looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v1NgyzQ9tM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpEc6kC0HM

What's does a decent physx GPU run for now? If I could pick up a card for less that $50 I'd consider it.

 

[Mussels]

I like the idea of getting higher quality physics but I'm not convinced on having to add another card to play the 6 games that actually use Nvidia physx. It's a desperation move from Nvidia on 2 fronts. It encourages more developers to use their physx and helps to move EOL GPUs off the shelves. I would not be surprised to see Nvidia drop support for this after it no longer fits their agenda.

Still with that said the Physx in Maffia 2 looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v1NgyzQ9tM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpEc6kC0HM

What's does a decent physx GPU run for now? If I could pick up a card for less that $50 I'd consider it.

its more than 6 now, with metro 2033 and mafia II (going by what you said, i've not heard of the game)

edit: from a link a few posts down, its 14 games now.

 

[kenkickr]

What's does a decent physx GPU run for now? If I could pick up a card for less that $50 I'd consider it.

The minimum I would recommend would be a 9600GS/GSO or 8800GS. Anything below is just uncivilized

Physxinfo.com is a great site to follow when it comes to physx supported games.

 

[lyndonguitar]

It isn't surprising, and btarunner pretty much hit the nail right on the head, this is done so they can clear out old weaker GPUs as PhysX cards. A quick trip over to eVGADIA...I mean eVGA...and they have huge adverts on the main page that say "GT 240 Makes a great Dedicated PhysX card!" and "Maximize your gaming experience with a PhysX card!" They aren't even calling them graphics cards at this point, they are simply referring to them as PhysX cards...



You've got a PCI-E x1 slot...buy a dremel and a super cheap $50 9800GT and make yourselft a PCI-E x1 PhysX card. I recently chopped PCI-E x16 card down to fit in a board with no x16 slot, and I was actually surprised at how easy it really was. I was affraid at first, and though it would be hard, but really it wasn't.

really? Thats so cool. will it work on an Asus P5Q? and what about loses? Whats the advantage of x16 vs x1 when it comes to just Physx.

 

[Mussels]

really? Thats so cool. will it work on an Asus P5Q? and what about loses? Whats the advantage of x16 vs x1 when it comes to just Physx.

zero difference for physX

 

[bpgt64]

Good Strategy to move G92 based chips imo...I wonder if this is the beginning in a shift of thought between ATI and Nvidia, in the realization that Intel is more of a problem than one another.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

The minimum I would recommend would be a 9600GS/GSO or 8800GS. Anything below is just uncivilized

Physxinfo.com is a great site to follow when it comes to physx supported games.

lol I havent heard of 90% of the titles on that list but there is a few winners.

 

[Mussels]

http://www.physxinfo.com/data/vreview.html

direct link to the list of hardware accelerated titles.

 

[kenkickr]

I just hope the Aliens: Colonial Marines doesn't meet the same fate that Aliens vs Predator had.

 

[Deleted member 6693]

cool.... now i can slap in my 8600GT and... uhh.. well actually i have no games that use PhysX, lol. might aquire metro 2033 just for this.

Can highly recommend Metro 2033 .. great visuals and a great game

Take a look at this nVidia PhysX games list...it´s soooooo looong...
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html

 

[ShRoOmAlIsTiC]

this pretty awesome news for me actually. I just ordered a xfx g 240 last night to replace my gtx260 physx card. the gtx was just overkill and a power hog in my rig. now I wont have to hack shit and from what i read the 240 is a great physx card.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Just talked to a coworker who has an extra 8800GT kicking around for me to test with. That should be sufficient right?

 

[Frick]

ohh good so nvidia kicks sand in my face and tells me no back when i actually had an nvidia gpu laying around that i wanted to use in tandem with my ati gpu...but now that i got rid of it im suddenly aloud to use it with my ati gpu? go f*ck yourself nvidia :shadedshu

Meh, better late then never. Stop whining.

 

[kid41212003]

You probably need to install their newest beta driver too (257.15). It's the first driver that actually allow PhysX on a single GPU in setup with both GPUs are the same.

 

[kenkickr]

Just talked to a coworker who has an extra 8800GT kicking around for me to test with. That should be sufficient right?

Definitely.

 

[johnnyfiive]

Awesome, I have a gtx 465 coming soon. Maybe now I can play Metro 2033 without wanting to scratch my eyeballs.

 

[filip007]

PhysX is slowly opening for all, nVidia could do that and it will if there market share will continue to decline, some games like Mirror Edge can run PhysX as software but will slowdown any Radeon, i must say nVidia good luck.

AMD recently get a man from former Ageia so the future is not that bad after all.

 

[phanbuey]

wow... they finally pulled their collective heads out of their a**es.

 

[kenkickr]

Awesome, I have a gtx 465 coming soon. Maybe now I can play Metro 2033 without wanting to scratch my eyeballs.

that 465 will be more than enough to remedy some of the massive framerate drops in Metro. At first I couldn't stand it with my 5870 but even when I put in a 8800GS it improved greatly.