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One setting that makes antialiasing look much more like it's supposed to on nvidia Maxwell and above chips

Okay, samsungs manual lists the max resolution as being different. Product pages for it show that you're correct.
Yay for old devices have incorrect information.

They also list it has DVI and HDMI - have you tried both seperately, with no adaptors?


And you shouldnt make any adjustments outside of colour and brightness within the displays settings for a digital connection, or something is really wrong with the signal sent, or the monitor itself
 
Interesting. Well this monitor has only VGA and DVI input and I do not use any adaptors of any kind, I even changed the DVI cable from factory one to another, that has an UL mark on it, so it has to be good? :)
Anyhow I have never had much changed on this monitor:
- Brightness to 27 (factory 100 is much too bright)
- Contrast left at 75 (factory)
- Gamma left at factory mode_1
- Auto Source changed to manual because I do not want the monitor to change to active signal just because it's active
- OSD Position H-position: to 80, V-position: to 20, Transparency: ON
That's all. I mean the magic stuff - bright and other go to custom when changing brightness to other than factory and dynamic contrast is off by default, so not really much to change and it becomes usable.
 
Turns out that there is not one wonderous setting that would make things look right, but more like 17-25, depending on your Windows version.

For good AA+AF quality on newer GeForce cards with really all games you have to give the card a baseline (of color settings) which the driver doesn't do anymore upon installation (a real mess).

This can still all be done via nv_control_panel in a curious way:

1.) After driver installation go to "Adjust video color settings" (trust me it ain't just video, it affects 3D too),

2.) then choose "with the NVIDIA settings",

3.) then again choose the factory setting "With the video player settings",

4.) click "Apply".

This seemingly silly process makes nv_CP throw from 25 (WinXP) to 17 (Win7 and Win10) baseline color settings into Windows Registry under HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/Video/{code of current video card/driver}.

Then you can configure AF (8x/16x) and AA (4/8xMS+4/8xTSS) via nv_CP or in-game. It shall look good. :)

You can get that code by looking under HKLM/Hardware/DeviceMap/Video usually the first one after "TSDDD" is the current graphics card's code (Video0).

This has now all been cleared up - picture on all monitors now is good again, there are still variations due to monitor properties, but no more due to graphics card being improperly set up.
I would also like to rename this topic if I can to:

"Settings that make antialiasing look like it's supposed to on nvidia Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell and above chips".​

 
pavle said:
Turns out that there is not one wonderous setting that would make things look right, but more like 17-25, depending on your Windows version.

For good AA+AF quality on newer GeForce cards with really all games you have to give the card a baseline (of color settings) which the driver doesn't do anymore upon installation (a real mess).

This can still all be done via nv_control_panel in a curious way:

1.) After driver installation go to "Adjust video color settings" (trust me it ain't just video, it affects 3D too),

2.) then choose "with the NVIDIA settings",

3.) then again choose the factory setting "With the video player settings",

4.) click "Apply".

This seemingly silly process makes nv_CP throw from 25 (WinXP) to 17 (Win7 and Win10) baseline color settings into Windows Registry under HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/Video/{code of current video card/driver}.

Then you can configure AF (8x/16x) and AA (4/8xMS+4/8xTSS) via nv_CP or in-game. It shall look good. :)

You can get that code by looking under HKLM/Hardware/DeviceMap/Video usually the first one after "TSDDD" is the current graphics card's code (Video0).

This has now all been cleared up - picture on all monitors now is good again, there are still variations due to monitor properties, but no more due to graphics card being improperly set up.
I would also like to rename this topic if I can to:

"Settings that make antialiasing look like it's supposed to on nvidia Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell and above chips".​

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you know I thought there might have been a real problem with this refurbished card I got cause the colors kept going darker than normal. I noticed it by the task bar being oddlyy Black and you could see it doing it, while it usually happened while idling with. Alot of times when I was reading something. Then I did this trick and stopped completely. O.o! Now my colors a brighter too.
 
One additional step would be to click "Restore Defaults" and "Apply" under "Manage 3D Settings" before setting any AF and AA.
That ensures all nVidia profiles are at their factory values and also adds one misterious setting (0x20xxxxxx code) under the main profile.
Funny thing is that when drivers are not set via nv control panel (but with nvprofileinspector) image quality is lower, so best to stick to factory profiles and make all changes through nv control panel.
 
And most of all - do not install a monitor driver (with color management profile).
Leave it at "Plug and Play monitor" (windows default); nvidia driver produces its best picture this way. Helps greatly with anti-aliasing, @mtcn77.
 
I have found a monitor color profile that produces more smooth images than sRGB (for nv cards), DonRGB4 (4K), on this page.

With that I have to add - if you do not install monitor driver (windows uses Plug and play monitor), you do not need to restore any defaults, or add any settings to registry, picture is smoothest that way (without any monitor color profile).
 
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@pavle Sorry for necro, but is it even actual thing in 2024 ?

pavle said:
I have found a monitor color profile that produces more smooth images than sRGB (for nv cards), DonRGB4 (4K), on this page.

With that I have to add - if you do not install monitor driver (windows uses Plug and play monitor), you do not need to restore any defaults, or add any settings to registry, picture is smoothest that way (without any monitor color profile).
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By that, do you mean things you described in #53 and #56 ?
 
No worries. I believe it is a thing, as long as you have a monitor. And you can check for those 17-25 in registry (as mentioned in post #53) - they should look like these (from my installation):
Code: 
"_User_Video_Active_Device"=hex:00,00,00,80
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Brightness"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Brightness"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Contrast"=hex:64,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Contrast"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Hue"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Hue"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Saturation"=hex:64,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Saturation"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XALG_Color_Range"=hex:01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Color_Range"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_RGB_Gamma_R"=hex:64,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_RGB_Gamma_R"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_RGB_Gamma_G"=hex:64,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_RGB_Gamma_G"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_RGB_Gamma_B"=hex:64,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_RGB_Gamma_B"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Edge_Enhance"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XALG_Edge_Enhance"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Edge_Enhance"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_VAL_Noise_Reduce"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XALG_Noise_Reduce"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Noise_Reduce"=hex:00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XALG_Cadence"=hex:04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"_User_SUB0_DFP0_XEN_Cadence"=hex:01,00,00,80
From what I know Windows - I know they are made poorly (but have potential), so user tweaks are always in order.
Depends on which version of Windows you're using, but it's always good - after video driver installation - to install monitor driver (specific for your monitor with its factory color profile) to enjoy a good quality picture. After that other color profiles can be tried.
 
Im confused now, sorry for that.
In #57 you recommend to not install a monitor driver (with color management profile), but now is it better (after video driver installation) - to install monitor driver (specific for your monitor with its factory color profile) ? i suppose most users went with second option.
These settings are exactly opposite to each other ?

Oh and little fix for these regedit links:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\VIDEO here you get code of current video card (this one is right)
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{code of current video card}\0000
bold was missing.
 
pirty_waggen said:
Im confused now, sorry for that.
In #57 you recommend to not install a monitor driver (with color management profile), but now is it better (after video driver installation) - to install monitor driver (specific for your monitor with its factory color profile) ? i suppose most users went with second option.
These settings are exactly opposite to each other ?

Oh and little fix for these regedit links:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\VIDEO here you get code of current video card (this one is right)
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{code of current video card}\0000
bold was missing.
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I'm sorry - there was a time I thought it was better, but it really is not. Some users reported blurry fonts in various applications without the monitor driver/color profile.
With ATi driver I've always installed monitor driver and all was well it's just nvidia that causes all kinds of problems with their messy sRGB handling (hence post #58).
Further - on Windows XP it's even beneficial (with nvidia card) to disable sRGB profile in registry by changing the first "00" to "ff" in order for picture to be right (with or without monitor driver).
With "ff" monitor even runs cooler than with "00" sRGB or "00" sRGB/driver mixture. Crazy.
Indeed - "Control" was missing in that registry path.
 
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Ok, to sum it up:
Install gpu driver, install monitor driver with its color profile.
Perform "setting switch" as described in #53.

You can check before and after state with:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\VIDEO here you get code of current video card
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{code of current video card}\0000

You are done.

One more thing. In NVCP should i change Dynamic range from Limited to Full before i switch back to "With the video player settings" ?
Dynamic range Limited.gif


Btw. my Win XP times are over long time ago im afraid :)
 
pirty_waggen said:
Ok, to sum it up:
Install gpu driver, install monitor driver with its color profile.
Perform "setting switch" as described in #53.

You can check before and after state with:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\VIDEO here you get code of current video card
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{code of current video card}\0000

You are done.

One more thing. In NVCP should i change Dynamic range from Limited to Full before i switch back to "With the video player settings" ?View attachment 368292

Btw. my Win XP times are over long time ago im afraid :)
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I prefer to do this stuff within the video player, but sadly I have some content that will only do full range when forced via the driver, so now I force it via the driver.
 
pirty_waggen said:
Ok, to sum it up:
Install gpu driver, install monitor driver with its color profile.
Perform "setting switch" as described in #53.

You can check before and after state with:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\VIDEO here you get code of current video card
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{code of current video card}\0000

You are done.

One more thing. In NVCP should i change Dynamic range from Limited to Full before i switch back to "With the video player settings" ?
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Btw. my Win XP times are over long time ago im afraid :)
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Just leave it factory if all your applications look normal.
11 is too round for me. :)
 
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