Overclocking help

[st2000]

r windows reaction time an SSD will make a noticable difference. Overclocking the CPU not so much.

absolutely true(when i upgaraded my hdd to ssd, i cant do ANYTHING with my sisters computer - she had hdd for system, dont remember time when i was more unpleasant/angry)
dat lags, 3-4 secs waiting of every action and so on - dat realy is f*cking annoying

if i were you, i wont go for OCing
you can win 0.5 secs in best way, but it's too litle to even think about it/spend time on it
better go for ssd and feel yourself like a white man

 

[landstad]

Logic dictates to increase core voltage for stability at the given settings or keep the voltage the same and reduce the multiplier to have a stable system

Yes, How do i adjust voltages carefully ?

absolutely true(when i upgaraded my hdd to ssd, i cant do ANYTHING with my sisters computer - she had hdd for system, dont remember time when i was more unpleasant/angry)
dat lags, 3-4 secs waiting of every action and so on - dat realy is f*cking annoying

if i were you, i wont go for OCing
you can win 0.5 secs in best way, but it's too litle to even think about it/spend time on it
better go for ssd and feel yourself like a white man

I have plans to buy my self a SDD, allready this week..

 

[SirKeldon]

Okey.

Now i have turned off amd turbo/cool and quiet, and i'm ready for some testing.
Wich test mode should i run in OCCT, large or medium?

EDIT: Also raised my multiplier, so now it's say 3.8.

I'll go for Prime95, you can download it from here. The reason for stability test apart from itself, it's that you want to isolate what's creating the problem if anyone happens. With that said, i'll download Prime95 and i'll do a 10min Small FFTs test (once you go to the Torture test in prime95 a window wlll pop-out letting you choose the test you want to run) cause it focuses just on the CPU itself, nothing more is tested. If it's not passing or you get a BSOD within the first 10-20 mins, yeah, definitely up a little bit the voltage within the CPU VCore.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

@landstad you are not reading the guides or the posts.

Kindly prove me wrong.................. by getting your o/c right.

I dont think you should be o/c ing at all to be Frank

Spoiler: Being Frank

 

[landstad]

@landstad you are not reading the guides or the posts.

Kindly prove me wrong.................. by getting your o/c right.

I dont think you should be o/c ing at all to be Frank

Spoiler: Being Frank

Im reading all what you guys have said, also checked out your links, i guess you have to try and fail to learn, nothing comes easy. And sorry if it seems that way, so much to remember, can't remember it all.

 

[st2000]

I have plans to buy my self a SDD, allready this week

as i know there is some stuff to copy you system from hdd to ssd(well-known companies are putting acronis to ssd package to easily migrate from hdd to ssd)
my advice is to do clean install windows(when i cloned my system to ssd i got only half of it's speed - dont know why)

 

[SirKeldon]

Im reading all what you guys have said, also checked out your links, i guess you have to try and fail to learn, nothing comes easy. And sorry if it seems that way, so much to remember, can't remember it all.

Yup, but also take in consideration a popular refrain that we say in spain (literal translation BTW) "Patience is the mother of Science"

So keep calm, read, test and move on, just as an advice, overclocking can be sometimes frustrating and you have to be prepared to test & retest ... but when you accomplish it, it's just great

 

[landstad]

I'll go for Prime95, you can download it from here. The reason for stability test apart from itself, it's that you want to isolate what's creating the problem if anyone happens. With that said, i'll download Prime95 and i'll do a 10min Small FFTs test (once you go to the Torture test in prime95 a window wlll pop-out letting you choose the test you want to run) cause it focuses just on the CPU itself, nothing more is tested. If it's not passing or you get a BSOD within the first 10-20 mins, yeah, definitely up a little bit the voltage within the CPU VCore.

Okey, thanks. Check out the fotos, is it there i adjust voltage?

 

[SirKeldon]

Okey, thanks. Check out the fotos, is there i adjust voltage?

I don't have that UEFI BIos yet and neither AMD .. but as far as I can see from the BIOS options, yeah, that's the place where you want to add some voltage to the CPU Core, how much? I really don't know cause i've been out of AMD overclocking since 2008 but i'm sure guys in the thread will also help with that =)

 

[Devon68]

better go for ssd and feel yourself like a white man

Oh crap I'm not white till I have an ssd. What am I. JK that sentence made me laugh.

 

[st2000]

Oh crap I'm not white

dont know if there is such idiom in english, but in russian that means "forget about any troubles and comfortably rest"

PS searched for english meaning and found some racist sh*t
sorry about that

 

[krusha03]

Okey, thanks. Check out the fotos, is it there i adjust voltage?

Yep that's the place. You should be fine with at least up to +0.1V but dont just select that yet. Go up by +0.01V steps until it's stable. Use HWinfo for monitoring and note the voltage during load as there might be some voltage drop. With your cooling you should have no problem cooling the CPU with up to 1.45V

I'll go for Prime95, you can download it from here. The reason for stability test apart from itself, it's that you want to isolate what's creating the problem if anyone happens. With that said, i'll download Prime95 and i'll do a 10min Small FFTs test (once you go to the Torture test in prime95 a window wlll pop-out letting you choose the test you want to run) cause it focuses just on the CPU itself, nothing more is tested. If it's not passing or you get a BSOD within the first 10-20 mins, yeah, definitely up a little bit the voltage within the CPU VCore.

Small FFTs are good for heat production, Large are better for stability testing. I have also found that my CPU never gets as hot as using prime / OCCT Large FFTs, let alone small. It is true thou that large FFTs test more ram but even every stress test uses the ram as well

 

[landstad]

Yep that's the place. You should be fine with at least up to +0.1V but dont just select that yet. Go up by +0.01V steps until it's stable. Use HWinfo for monitoring and note the voltage during load as there might be some voltage drop. With your cooling you should have no problem cooling the CPU with up to 1.45V



Small FFTs are good for heat production, Large are better for stability testing. I have also found that my CPU never gets as hot as using prime / OCCT Large FFTs, let alone small. It is true thou that large FFTs test more ram but even every stress test uses the ram as well

Now i have tried diffrent setups multiple test, and at x19 (3.800ghz) and 0.01v and 0.02v and 0.03v. it ran for 10 minutes with the FFTS test in prime, and i got blue screen on every test's. temprature was never over 40'c

So i took i down a notch, 18.5 (3.700ghz) and 0.04v, the prime ran for about 20 minutes before i got blue screen. Should i try increase Voltage a little more or should i just stop overclocking and just enjoy it as it is ?

 

[krusha03]

Now i have tried diffrent setups multiple test, and at x19 (3.800ghz) and 0.01v and 0.02v and 0.03v. it ran for 10 minutes with the FFTS test in prime, and i got blue screen on every test's. temprature was never over 40'c

So i took i down a notch, 18.5 (3.700ghz) and 0.04v, the prime ran for about 20 minutes before i got blue screen. Should i try increase Voltage a little more or should i just stop overclocking and just enjoy it as it is ?

As i said you can do +0.1V no problem (about 1.45V) especially if the load temperatures are so low. Core temp should be lower than 62C iirc

 

[SirKeldon]

Small FFTs are good for heat production, Large are better for stability testing. I have also found that my CPU never gets as hot as using prime / OCCT Large FFTs, let alone small. It is true thou that large FFTs test more ram but even every stress test uses the ram as well

Despite I didn't OC'd an AMD since 2008 so maybe things changed, but in my last years with just intel, it states plus or less like this: Small-FFT's stress primarily just the CPU and nothing more, so it's good to test just it and remove other parts (Cache/NB) from the stability equation. When you select Large-FFTs, P95 switches to run the FFTs in Place and then the Cache and FPU is really tested which outputs same heat as AIDA64 testing just FPU or LinPack. When you turn to "Blend", then mostly everything is tested, which is mostly "same" test as you do with OCCT with big quantity of memory.

Cheers

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

just stop overclocking and just enjoy it as it is ?

 

[landstad]

As i said you can do +0.1V no problem (about 1.45V) especially if the load temperatures are so low. Core temp should be lower than 62C iirc

have been running prime for 30 minuttes now, x18,5 +0.06v 3.7ghz. Passed the 24 k test, still running the test 1,39v. 48temp stable

 

[SirKeldon]

have been running prime for 30 minuttes now, x18,5 +0.06v 3.7ghz. Passed the 24 k test, still running the test 1,39v. 48temp stable

Once you test the Small-FFTs for 20 mins and it's not BSODing ... you can move onto the Large-FFT's one to test completely all the components in your CPU.

 

[landstad]

Once you test the Small-FFTs for 20 mins and it's not BSODing ... you can move onto the Large-FFT's one to test completely all the components in your CPU.

ran small-ffts for about 50 minutes without bsod appeared.

How long should i run the large-ffts test ?
And what's my next step after that ?

 

[krusha03]

ran small-ffts for about 50 minutes without bsod appeared.

How long should i run the large-ffts test ?
And what's my next step after that ?

I would leave OCCT testing the CPU + all ram overnight

 

[landstad]

I would leave OCCT testing the CPU + all ram overnight

Okey, i'll try that.

Should I start the prosses again and go for 3.8-4.0 ghz ?

 

[SirKeldon]

ran small-ffts for about 50 minutes without bsod appeared.

How long should i run the large-ffts test ?
And what's my next step after that ?

You should run a 20 mins test with the "Large-FFT's" and check temperatures, if it passes ... then "Blend" test/OCCT test (with 80% of the memory) for some hours. If all of this passes, then i'll go to 3DMark for 4-5 runs, and then test your normal stuff for gaming or whatever.

 

[Schmuckley]

All you need is this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/o...verclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_100

by El "UFC makes me randy" Gappo

The order is important..Do everything in order..multiplier last.

I wouldn't run some heat-producing bench on a Thuban like that..
Hyper-Pi 32m twice..
Maybe 3 rounds of IBT..
If it passes that you should be good..
If you get BSODs..lower the OC a little.

After seeing what motherboard you have: Do NOT use more than 1.4v vcore..
and don't push that board..definitely do NOT leave that thing running OCCT overnight unless you want to wake up to a smoked computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100 Look at this chart.Heed it.

Eh..Your board is 8+2 phase..
It's about the best AMD MSI board there is...
I still wouldn't trust it, though
It may be OK..
MSI VRMs are not known to be of highest quality, though.

 

[landstad]

All you need is this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/o...verclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_100

by El "UFC makes me randy" Gappo

The order is important..Do everything in order..multiplier last.

I wouldn't run some heat-producing bench on a Thuban like that..
Hyper-Pi 32m twice..
Maybe 3 rounds of IBT..
If it passes that you should be good..
If you get BSODs..lower the OC a little.

After seeing what motherboard you have: Do NOT use more than 1.4v vcore..
and don't push that board..definitely do NOT leave that thing running OCCT overnight unless you want to wake up to a smoked computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100 Look at this chart.Heed it.

Eh..Your board is 8+2 phase..
It's about the best AMD MSI board there is...
I still wouldn't trust it, though
It may be OK..
MSI VRMs are not known to be of highest quality, though.

Thanks man, usefull stuff..

"Large-FFT's" "small-FFT's" and blend test. for about 50 minutes each. and i have played games all day without any bsod, temprature have been stable at 35'c

Do you think i can push cpu up too 4ghz with this board?

 

[krusha03]

All you need is this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/o...verclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_100

by El "UFC makes me randy" Gappo

The order is important..Do everything in order..multiplier last.

I wouldn't run some heat-producing bench on a Thuban like that..
Hyper-Pi 32m twice..
Maybe 3 rounds of IBT..
If it passes that you should be good..
If you get BSODs..lower the OC a little.

After seeing what motherboard you have: Do NOT use more than 1.4v vcore..
and don't push that board..definitely do NOT leave that thing running OCCT overnight unless you want to wake up to a smoked computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100 Look at this chart.Heed it.

Eh..Your board is 8+2 phase..
It's about the best AMD MSI board there is...
I still wouldn't trust it, though
It may be OK..
MSI VRMs are not known to be of highest quality, though.

Dude this has been the most unclear post i have ever read. You changed your opinion about his board in one post more times @landstad has changed hardware in all his threads on TPU. And he has been thru a lot in the past month