OFFICIAL Path of Exile (Discussion)

[Ahhzz]

Yup, hard to tell sometimes what did the deed.... Just "You've died".... Hello, how about a "Fire damage" at least?

may be it will be better if you scale physical and then convert it to cold. you already have 60% conversion from frostblades you can use hrimsorrow to convert 40% left.
my build is with scourge and helion pawn (both are at around 1ch on market) and they drop with ~250 dps each
try different builds with https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding
you can add items too and see how they affect dps

i will leave hirmsorrow in the bank if i havnt sold em already if you decide to try it

really missing my Touch of Anguishes I've managed to improve a bit, got all my resists above 75, and now looking to tweak gear more to drop some cold (25 points over) to gain some more damage. I'll take a look at the hrims if you get them in the bank thanks!

 

[ne6togadno]

you dont need combat log
it is verry simple.
must have is caped resistances and huge hp and or es pull. block is reasonably reliable. everything that has something to do with entropy is fucked up so better have good movement speed and evade manually than to relay on evasion/dodge.

ps and stay away from hits that do splash\

ook at the hrims if you get them in the bank thanks!

patienly waiting in the tab with the claws. they can be upgraded if you are lucky with prophecies

 

[bug]

you dont need combat log
it is verry simple.
must have is caped resistances and huge hp and or es pull. block is reasonably reliable. everything that has something to do with entropy is fucked up so better have good movement speed and evade manually than to relay on evasion/dodge.

ps and stay away from hits that do splash\


patienly waiting in the tab with the claws. they can be upgraded if you are lucky with prophecies

Log would still be useful for those (not rare at all) moments when you need to overcap resistance to survive.

 

[ne6togadno]

well try to have all my rare gear with resistances so i am alway over the cap some times with 30%+

 

[Ahhzz]

*sigh* going to be a long day... I decided to purchase a couple of Touch of Anguish last night, but was pretty tired, so just did a quick search, and saw several at 1 alch. Figured I'd grab a couple this morning, and went to bed. Got up this morn, and there aren't any under 7 jewels, and the rest at 1 chaos. I need more alcohol in my diet.

 

[ne6togadno]

7 jewels isnt that much. run 3rd labyrint once and you will have at least 2 6 sockets for sale. if you are short with jewels atm i can help when i get home

 

[Ahhzz]

7 jewels isnt that much. run 3rd labyrint once and you will have at least 2 6 sockets for sale. if you are short with jewels atm i can help when i get home

No, no I'm good on sockets, thanks tho . It's the 1C that they're all sitting at now, when I could have gotten 2 or 3 for 1 Alch last night, that's bugging me lol. They'll probably drop back down soon; they're not that spectacular, it will just give me some better survivability with the life drain, and bump my dps by a few hundred.
I grabbed enough Humility cards this morn for a Tabula, and promptly broke it with a Vaal. I'm at a good spot on incursion killing right now, so I'm hoping if I can improve my survive rate a bit, I can start mapping soon. That bloody corrupted plague skewer I got (https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Ahhzz_poe/characters) is pretty impressive for such low "+ elemental dmg" numbers.... I'm assuming part of my problem is that I'm not really doing any phys damage with this build, so a lot of the "leech %health for phys dmg done" isn't helping.

 

[ne6togadno]

drop elemental focus for maim or chance to bleed. you'd better have mobs frozen and exploding then having those % more dmg
try carft hp on topaz ring (i think i should have 1 more prefix lelft not sure thou) and ES on 2 stone. craft ES to armor as well.
link whirling blades with faster attacks, fortify and blood magic.
ripost-vengance-cast on hit-assassin's mark
ancestral protector/warcheaf-culling strike-blind
add also hatred together with herald of ice
for dualweld you should have gone for gladiator and block. it is much more reliable then evasion/dodge
check my chopachop and dwduelB toons

 

[Ahhzz]

thanks, I'll take a look

 

[ne6togadno]

on second thought i think for what you want the best will be if you mix oni build with gladiator. defenses from gladiator elemental offence from oni. for physical dmg still stick with gladiator's claws nods or if you stay with swords (there are some swords that can boost block if used in off hand like scaeva gladius) swap claw specific nodes above acrobatics for sword specific below it.

edit: try this with pathofbuilding

 

[WhiteNoise]

Vaal Reave is awesome. Mine is doing 73,621.6 damage (My character is L72 and the gem is L17 w/ quality 20) Not sure what it will get to eventually but I expect it will do a lot of damage.

Incursions are too easy for my build at the moment. I enter an incursion and completely clear it every single time no matter the tier.

High dmg output along with huge AOE plus movement speed of 72% = awesome clear speed.

So what is considered good DPS in this game? My character above is L79 now and hitting over 140k DPS. I think I will be over 200k soon actually. None of my other builds ever went this high. I'm sitting here thinking this build is awesome and I love the amount of damage it does but then I see online people claiming WAAAAY more DPS than me and I started wonder what is considered good and what is considered high dps?

This build is fun and outputs quite a bit of damage but suffers from low armor and evasion. I think i currently have 3000+ of each. That is the next thing I need to focus on. Resistances are all capped except for chaos. Bosses are quite easy to defeat currently and most mobs fall before they can even touch me but once in awhile someone hits me with something so damn hard that I am insta killed. This is fairly rare but does happen on occasion. I really need to focus on getting life and armor or life and evasion much higher. My life is just under 4k.

 

[phanbuey]

So what is considered good DPS in this game? My character above is L79 now and hitting over 140k DPS. I think I will be over 200k soon actually. None of my other builds ever went this high. I'm sitting here thinking this build is awesome and I love the amount of damage it does but then I see online people claiming WAAAAY more DPS than me and I started wonder what is considered good and what is considered high dps?

This build is fun and outputs quite a bit of damage but suffers from low armor and evasion. I think i currently have 3000+ of each. That is the next thing I need to focus on. Resistances are all capped except for chaos. Bosses are quite easy to defeat currently and most mobs fall before they can even touch me but once in awhile someone hits me with something so damn hard that I am insta killed. This is fairly rare but does happen on occasion. I really need to focus on getting life and armor or life and evasion much higher. My life is just under 4k.

are you facetanking the bosses (except for the big slams)? or kiting and sniping ?

Im trying to go tanky with my build and... it's uh... not the best right now.

 

[WhiteNoise]

are you facetanking the bosses (except for the big slams)? or kiting and sniping ?

Im trying to go tanky with my build and... it's uh... not the best right now.

I can face tank all the bosses up to the highest Tier I have played so far which is T11. I can easily kill every boss up to this point within seconds. Bosses are not an issue. It is when I'm going up against huge mobs at once that I get one shot from time to time. Honestly it only happens maybe once or twice every few days. I know my issue is life + armor or evasion.

Normally my char at over 70+% movement speed and 140k+ DPS kills everything within a second and long before most things even know I'm there due to my huge AOE Reave attack. I just run any map or act super fast and killing huge mobs at once. It's great!

I know what is lacking and will work towards fixing it. I'm more interested in what is considered average and high DPS on a main attack spell. Anyone know?

/edit: So decided to just jump on google now that I am home from work. It seems that people can reach up to 2m DPS and more. WTF?!!? Good lord that is insane. Maybe I just suck lol kidding but good lord that is nuts. People claim 1m to 1.6m to be good. I'm at a loss. lol

/edit 2: I want to clarify..I am not saying my build can walk through every boss. There are plenty of high level bosses I have not even faced yet and will most likely struggle with. So far it has been a cake walk but I don't expect that to always be the case but my character is still leveling up. I have been killed by bosses by the unexpected but usually only once and then my next go around I kick its butt. Most bosses though I kill so fast that I don't have to worry about anything. I still get one shot by mobs though on occasion. I have some work cut out for me with improving my build.

 

[flmatter]

@WhiteNoise how are you running your reave? with what support gems, 5 link armor or weapon? I am running a templar, new build and have a Vaal Reave gem. Just curious as to what you have supporting it. I am only lvl 42/43 with my templar. thanks

 

[bug]

So what is considered good DPS in this game? My character above is L79 now and hitting over 140k DPS. I think I will be over 200k soon actually. None of my other builds ever went this high. I'm sitting here thinking this build is awesome and I love the amount of damage it does but then I see online people claiming WAAAAY more DPS than me and I started wonder what is considered good and what is considered high dps?

This build is fun and outputs quite a bit of damage but suffers from low armor and evasion. I think i currently have 3000+ of each. That is the next thing I need to focus on. Resistances are all capped except for chaos. Bosses are quite easy to defeat currently and most mobs fall before they can even touch me but once in awhile someone hits me with something so damn hard that I am insta killed. This is fairly rare but does happen on occasion. I really need to focus on getting life and armor or life and evasion much higher. My life is just under 4k.

Hehe. Good DPS is maybe half of this game. THe other half being survivability. Even when I thought I had enough DPS, there were still plenty of monsters to one-shot me. And I don't mean really hard bosses (those are both meant to one-shot unsuspecting players and inaccessible to me), but bosses that I have seen other players eating for lunch.

 

[WhiteNoise]

@WhiteNoise how are you running your reave? with what support gems, 5 link armor or weapon? I am running a templar, new build and have a Vaal Reave gem. Just curious as to what you have supporting it. I am only lvl 42/43 with my templar. thanks

I am running Lighning Coil + Abyssus

In my lightning coil I have six linked and here are my gems (taken from my poe profile, these are actually pictures of my gems and armor. Reave is in my armor.

Multistrike works with standard reave which is the skill used from the vaal gem. Though I have a vaal reave, I do not use the vaal part of it but the normal reave which does much more dps for my main attack. I do use the vaal portion just at a start to a boss fight, pop it once and then lay in with standard reave.

Above is my gem load out for everything but bosses. When fighting bosses I switch out two gems. I remove Increased area effect and Reave for:

.

Blade furry does less DPS but kills bosses much faster than Reave

You'll notice above that one green gem is missing from my helm. It is in my ring and only as a temp measure for now. It reserves too much mana so I cannot run it in the helm until I get my mana pool higher. In the ring it runs without mana reserve so it allows me to use it along with my other mana reserved gems. I plan to put a good rare or unique ring there which I already have in my stash.

I think this may work to allow you to see my passive tree. I'm working on finding better jewels of the rare variety.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscr...ountName=AmishOne&characterName=PerfectionMBS

Here is all of my gear as it sits now. Keep in mind that this is still a work in progress and not end game jewelry for me. I may swap out gloves and boots too eventually.

Hehe. Good DPS is maybe half of this game. THe other half being survivability. Even when I thought I had enough DPS, there were still plenty of monsters to one-shot me. And I don't mean really hard bosses (those are both meant to one-shot unsuspecting players and inaccessible to me), but bosses that I have seen other players eating for lunch.

Yeah I am fully aware of that and agree totally! My resistances need work but my fire and lightening is capped and then some, my cold is under cap at 63 or 65% so I need to get that up. Also my armor and evasion needs to be higher as well. All things I am currently working on.

 

[AsRock]

Was playing this before it was on steam and recently started to play again, it's improved for sure. Just wish the story was much stronger in it. Anyways decided to buy a few tabs + guild tabs which there was a issue but will not get in to that, but their support for the game seems top notch.

Although it should be for the price of every thing but at the same time if i am only after tabs $25 isn't a bad deal in the end, every thing else is pointless cosmetics imo.

Yup, hard to tell sometimes what did the deed.... Just "You've died".... Hello, how about a "Fire damage" at least?


really missing my Touch of Anguishes I've managed to improve a bit, got all my resists above 75, and now looking to tweak gear more to drop some cold (25 points over) to gain some more damage. I'll take a look at the hrims if you get them in the bank thanks!

That shit pisses me off, was the same deal with Diablo 3, if only they would say what you were killed by huh.

 

[flmatter]

Saw we were out of space in guild tabs added 4 more tabs to use if anyone needs anything or is looking for something hit me up I have a normal and incursion characters to help out. Have some low level maps to assist too. anyone want a guild invite ask we have 2 officers that can do that or pm me or @Ahhzz and @ne6togadno

 

[AsRock]

"Also, no matter what they say, PoE is pay-2-win." Interesting theory. But it made me laugh. Thanks.

And still is today, proberly more today than ever. How ever the game does allow you to really play out the game to see if you like it, dropping $50 on some thing you are going be playing a lot and you put it on the tabs when they are on sale you should pretty dam good to go.

It's not like most others were their is a new weapon\other gear and you have to pay for it., you just need more space than 4 tabs.

Saw we were out of space in guild tabs added 4 more tabs to use if anyone needs anything or is looking for something hit me up I have a normal and incursion characters to help out. Have some low level maps to assist too. anyone want a guild invite ask we have 2 officers that can do that or pm me or @Ahhzz and @ne6togadno

If i had noticed i would of joined and got some too, before i got our own, o well.

well if some wants me add me pmsg me.

 

[ne6togadno]

Saw we were out of space in guild tabs added 4 more tabs to use if anyone needs anything or is looking for something hit me up I have a normal and incursion characters to help out. Have some low level maps to assist too. anyone want a guild invite ask we have 2 officers that can do that or pm me or @Ahhzz and @ne6togadno

you shouldnt have wasted points on this. i was about to vendor the stuff as seems most of it isnt useful for anyone but i guess it is too late now.
still if anyone want to save something for later pick it out or if you dont have space in personal stash leave it in last tab and in 2 day i will vendor the junk.
also dont forget that after league end those tabs are not lost they are still available but as pull out only.

most of you probably know but if you sell full set of shaper or elder items (same as recipe for chaos or regals) give you 2 exalt shards. 20 shards=1 exalt

 

[bug]

And still is today, proberly more today than ever. How ever the game does allow you to really play out the game to see if you like it, dropping $50 on some thing you are going be playing a lot and you put it on the tabs when they are on sale you should pretty dam good to go.

It's not like most others were their is a new weapon\other gear and you have to pay for it., you just need more space than 4 tabs.

Considering how much money actual pay2win titles require, it's disingenuous to put tab purchases on the same level.
Hell, some pay2win titles will ask for $50 for a temporary, one month boost.

 

[AsRock]

Yeah it's so far from being the worsted, in fact it's nice to have the option to get more unlike Diablo once you got the xpac for the maybe 3 extra chars.

And now they have the map tab which will save no much space too.

 

[bug]

Yeah it's so far from being the worsted, in fact it's nice to have the option to get more unlike Diablo once you got the xpac for the maybe 3 extra chars.

And now they have the map tab which will save no much space too.

Plus, you usually pay for those long after you'd be done with a typical $50-60 game.

 

[Ahhzz]

I can't argue any longer that PoE is completely non-P2W, as you really can't progress for long without buying more bank space: there's just too much you really have to hold onto in order to progress. Initially, it wasn't really that bad, and completely for those of us pack rats. However, as pointed out so much, as games go that "require" you to spend money, just buying a small stack of points, and waiting for a weekend bag sale, and you're set for the foreseeable future in the game...

 

[ne6togadno]

for 300 points (30$) i've got all special tabs w/o the one for framgment (4 in total) and 2 additional standard tabs (got all on Christmas sale) and had 5 points left to donate to guild.