Performance Issue - WoW - 100% HDD Usage - Laggy

[Calebe Costa]

A good option is just upgrading your memory and seeing where it gets you. Also I don't think anyone linked 11-11-11 memory, as I linked 8-8-8 DIMMs.

There is no benefit to using memory that your CPU can't run at full speed. I recommended 1600 because your CPU probably can run it without a problem. G.Skill makes decent memory but no more decent than other reputable brands IMHO.

Your CPU won't be loaded if the machine is trashing, it's probably swapping pages in and out more often than the CPU can do anything which is what everyone has been telling you...

All in all, this is the last time I'm going to say it: Upgrade your physical memory and see where it gets you because 4GB is not enough. If you're not going to listen to us, don't post asking for help. Considering you did't even bother checking the task manager for memory usage, I suspect that you're not listening to us.

Aquinus sorry, didn't read that. I'll check when i get home.

 

[Mussels]

Hard to shop on that website since google translate doesn't work on it

2x4GB corsair 1600Mhz

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-606602769-memorias-corsair-vengeance-red-1600-2x4gb-_JM

and its 2/3 the price of the other one i saw listed earlier. don't worry about the C9 timings, its not an issue - the higher the MHz goes, the slower the timings get.

 

[Calebe Costa]

Hard to shop on that website since google translate doesn't work on it

2x4GB corsair 1600Mhz

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-606602769-memorias-corsair-vengeance-red-1600-2x4gb-_JM

and its 2/3 the price of the other one i saw listed earlier. don't worry about the C9 timings, its not an issue - the higher the MHz goes, the slower the timings get.

Well this crazy seller just want bank direct deposit. He doesn't want Credit Card option. I can't trust him. By the way is his first sell.

 

[Mussels]

got any other websites you can order from?

 

[Blue-Knight]

so its booting things to the page file and loading them back again, which is causing the disk usage and stuttering.

Which is a terrible experience for anyone... My recommendation is to set page file to 64-128MiB or disable it completely if no programs "cry" about it.

 

[Mussels]

Which is a terrible experience for anyone... My recommendation is to set page file to 64-128MiB or disable it completely if no programs "cry" about it.

that does NOT work. you'll either end up with crashing apps, or windows re-creating it anyway.

 

[Blue-Knight]

that does NOT work. you'll either end up with crashing apps, or windows re-creating it anyway.

Which is faster than waiting your HDD to recover... To fix it, just buy more memory or limit your usage (i.e. don't do things you can't).

It worked well for me when I had 1512, 2048MB of RAM.

 

[Calebe Costa]

that does NOT work. you'll either end up with crashing apps, or windows re-creating it anyway.

Agreed. I remember of disabling that once and when i was running WoW, the game just crashed with some report of not enough virtual memory.

 

[Blue-Knight]

Agreed. I remember of disabling that once and when i was running WoW, the game just crashed with some report of not enough virtual memory.

This is sad, some programs will simply refuse to run if you don't have GBs of virtual memory...?

Never encountered a game which asks all that but all I could run without problem with 64-128MB. Some would refuse to run without any at all.

 

[Aquinus]

Agreed. I remember of disabling that once and when i was running WoW, the game just crashed with some report of not enough virtual memory.

Hint: That means you're running out of memory.

Which is a terrible experience for anyone... My recommendation is to set page file to 64-128MiB or disable it completely if no programs "cry" about it.

This is sad, some programs will simply refuse to run if you don't have GBs of virtual memory...?

Never encountered a game which asks all that but all I could run without problem with 64-128MB. Some would refuse to run without any at all.

No... what's sad is trying to run a game out of virtual memory in the first place. The simple fact is that he doesn't have enough RAM to run everything from system memory and having swap space is the only way to fix that short of adding more physical memory. In most cases, people just want their computer to work which is what virtual memory allows. In this case, the only thing that needs to be done is to add more memory to the computer. It's really that simple. Also this is one of those cases where he does have enough memory to play the game, it's just that he doesn't have enough to have both Windows and the game loaded into memory at the same time which is where the slowdown is coming from. The game would run a lot worse if it didn't fit into system memory by itself.

 

[Calebe Costa]

Hint: That means you're running out of memory.


No... what's sad is trying to run a game out of virtual memory in the first place. The simple fact is that he doesn't have enough RAM to run everything from system memory and having swap space is the only way to fix that short of adding more physical memory. In most cases, people just want their computer to work which is what virtual memory allows. In this case, the only thing that needs to be done is to add more memory to the computer. It's really that simple. Also this is one of those cases where he does have enough memory to play the game, it's just that he doesn't have enough to have both Windows and the game loaded into memory at the same time which is where the slowdown is coming from. The game would run a lot worse if it didn't fit into system memory by itself.

I've checked like u suggest, and true, the task manager said the memory consumption was around 75%-90% All about WoW. It was he top consumer >1.4GB.

So i believe all system is stuttering because of memory lack.

I noticed another thing about the 100% hd usage. Sometimes Kaspersky is in orange-red color, and most of times is Something Host (not local) It is a tree and when i open have about 21 process inside it. it is the most hd usage. Does it have something about the memory?

When you run Task manager you can see the programs changing consumption every second. Example: Task manager 50MB-55MB-49MB-52MB etc When i minimize WoW it freezes on the last memory usage: 1.423.451KB and stay. It doesn't change. Why is that? I believe when i maximize Is a lot of work to make the game run again.

I don't remember where in control panel, but i remember where you can change the memory usage: forefront files or background files. The actual set is in forefront files. If i set to background does it increase the overall performance slightly or does it have nothing to do with?

 

[Aquinus]

When you run Task manager you can see the programs changing consumption every second. Example: Task manager 50MB-55MB-49MB-52MB etc When i minimize WoW it freezes on the last memory usage: 1.423.451KB and stay. It doesn't change. Why is that? I believe when i maximize Is a lot of work to make the game run again.

That's because it needs to swap in all of the pages that were swapped out when you minimized. Until the needed pages are swapped in, it won't tend to eat up more memory until the application is fully loaded into memory and working again. This will happen every time you start running into swap space. I think you're miss understanding something about how memory works. Either way you'll want to upgrade to 8GB.

I don't remember where in control panel, but i remember where you can change the memory usage: forefront files or background files. The actual set is in forefront files. If i set to background does it increase the overall performance slightly or does it have nothing to do with?

It defaults on regular Windows to favor applications. This doesn't mean anything in your case. In fact minimizing might be faster but WoW will be slower long term with it set this way.

 

[Calebe Costa]

That's because it needs to swap in all of the pages that were swapped out when you minimized. Until the needed pages are swapped in, it won't tend to eat up more memory until the application is fully loaded into memory and working again. This will happen every time you start running into swap space. I think you're miss understanding something about how memory works. Either way you'll want to upgrade to 8GB.

Lol o/ I'm newbie. Thanks for the help. You are the man.

It defaults on regular Windows to favor applications. This doesn't mean anything in your case.

 

[Calebe Costa]

One last thing (for a while ) I just remembered that my auntie is going to MIA this month and what store she can buy those memories? I don't know the "tags" to do this kind of search on google.

 

[Calebe Costa]

That's because it needs to swap in all of the pages that were swapped out when you minimized. Until the needed pages are swapped in, it won't tend to eat up more memory until the application is fully loaded into memory and working again. This will happen every time you start running into swap space. I think you're miss understanding something about how memory works. Either way you'll want to upgrade to 8GB.

It defaults on regular Windows to favor applications. This doesn't mean anything in your case. In fact minimizing might be faster but WoW will be slower long term with it set this way.

What memory is the best for the price? 2x4gb or 8gb only?

I think this is the "best" one: cl8

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7446272&CatId=11478

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[Blue-Knight]

What memory is the best for the price? 2x4gb or 8gb only?

1x8GB, so you can upgrade to more 8gb later...

But if you are sure you won't need than I'd go for 2x4gb.

 

[Calebe Costa]

1x8GB, so you can upgrade to more 8gb later...

But if you are sure you won't need than I'd go for 2x4gb.

I wish My mobo only supports 8gb. Its a h55m-le

 

[Bachbaabach]

Playing WoW for about three years, was in the comparebale sitation (twice). Tryed ultra but it gets as low as 1-30 fps when playing. I was given a new PC for my birthday.. World of Warcraft has a lot of visuals, 3D-objects, animation and so on, so the thinest part of your pc should be GPU, In your situation i recommend you to find another GPU maybe it will improve speed of your system, but all the system needs an upgrade.

With my spec i run "high settings" 95-108 fps that is comfortable, i'm not running for ultra (i understand it cost much more).

By the way, case and power supply stay from previous PC, wich was trying to ultra. hope this helps.

 

[Calebe Costa]

Playing WoW for about three years, was in the comparebale sitation (twice). Tryed ultra but it gets as low as 1-30 fps when playing. I was given a new PC for my birthday.. World of Warcraft has a lot of visuals, 3D-objects, animation and so on, so the thinest part of your pc should be GPU, In your situation i recommend you to find another GPU maybe it will improve speed of your system, but all the system needs an upgrade.

With my spec i run "high settings" 95-108 fps that is comfortable, i'm not running for ultra (i understand it cost much more).

By the way, case and power supply stay from previous PC, wich was trying to ultra. hope this helps.

I believe you can run on ultra if you remove the Shadow.

 

[Aquinus]

1x8GB, so you can upgrade to more 8gb later...

But if you are sure you won't need than I'd go for 2x4gb.

Someone hasn't been doing research or hasn't been reading the thread...

His motherboard/CPU only supports 8GB between two DIMMs. Just wanted to throw that out there since you said 16GB as well.

What memory is the best for the price? 2x4gb or 8gb only?

I think this is the "best" one: cl8

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7446272&CatId=11478

The Crucial Ballistix Tacticals should be very solid, however latencies aren't super important. I wouldn't say you need 8-8-8-24, but I would see if 9-9-9-(<27) is a better option for the price. You won't notice much difference in performance. I like those crucial DIMMs because they're low voltage and tight on the timings but that is all. If anything else is about the same but costs less, I would take those instead.

This is just over 50 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546 and may be more economical, but it's not low voltage or 8-8-8-24 (it's 1.5v and 9-9-9-24)

 

[Calebe Costa]

Someone hasn't been doing research or hasn't been reading the thread...



The Crucial Ballistix Tacticals should be very solid, however latencies aren't super important. I wouldn't say you need 8-8-8-24, but I would see if 9-9-9-(<27) is a better option for the price. You won't notice much difference in performance. I like those crucial DIMMs because they're low voltage and tight on the timings but that is all. If anything else is about the same but costs less, I would take those instead.

This is just over 50 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546 and may be more economical, but it's not low voltage or 8-8-8-24 (it's 1.5v and 9-9-9-24)

The price is awesome, but i need a retail store option for store pick-up. I'll just say to her "Go to that store and buy this one". Miami, FL

 

[Bachbaabach]

I believe you can run on ultra if you remove the Shadow.

I suppose it is very attractive to get "ultra distance of drawing" but when you have 100 fps it so comfy, it feels like ultra make system unstable. Later i will try 2-3 GPU (Crossfire/SLI) sooner or later, after trying system with 2 GPU (Gaming 9600 GT 512 Mb) and 1 cPU (Proffesional FirePro V5600) (cPU is for collision computing unit)

Aquinus, got pc with a lot of ram (Core2 Duo, 4 gb memory). System stable (Windows XP) amount of memory encrease loading of OS and all apps very much, but i doubt it will encrease gaming experience. As for me i don't mentioned it in WoW: Cataclysm (busting memory from 2 Gb to 4 Gb)

 

[Bachbaabach]

aw, almost forgot, be careful with ultra resolution, it dont get below 1 point, so you can't be sure it burns your computer, as far as i busted 4 gb or ram and tryed ultra in WoW: Cataclysm, my PC won't start up, don't know exact reason.

 

[Calebe Costa]

I suppose it is very attractive to get "ultra distance of drawing" but when you have 100 fps it so comfy, it feels like ultra make system unstable. Later i will try 2-3 GPU (Crossfire/SLI) sooner or later, after trying system with 2 GPU (Gaming 9600 GT 512 Mb) and 1 cPU (Proffesional FirePro V5600) (cPU is for collision computing unit)

Aquinus, got pc with a lot of ram (Core2 Duo, 4 gb memory). System stable (Windows XP) amount of memory encrease loading of OS and all apps very much, but i doubt it will encrease gaming experience. As for me i don't mentioned it in WoW: Cataclysm (busting memory from 2 Gb to 4 Gb)

I remember of playing WoW on Ultra when was WoTLK. When Cata came was fps0 Since there i changed to medium-low but distance on ultra. Actual fps is about 65-90.

 

[Calebe Costa]

I suppose it is very attractive to get "ultra distance of drawing" but when you have 100 fps it so comfy, it feels like ultra make system unstable. Later i will try 2-3 GPU (Crossfire/SLI) sooner or later, after trying system with 2 GPU (Gaming 9600 GT 512 Mb) and 1 cPU (Proffesional FirePro V5600) (cPU is for collision computing unit)

Aquinus, got pc with a lot of ram (Core2 Duo, 4 gb memory). System stable (Windows XP) amount of memory encrease loading of OS and all apps very much, but i doubt it will encrease gaming experience. As for me i don't mentioned it in WoW: Cataclysm (busting memory from 2 Gb to 4 Gb)

I do'nt know if is true, but a friend of mine said that if my GPU cant handle it will drain memory from RAM. Is that true?