Performance Issue - WoW - 100% HDD Usage - Laggy

Dent1 · Dec 16, 2014

Calebe Costa said:
I just ran the test:

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/110097

That website is complete bullshit. Do not base any decision on that website. Please read a proper review from a respected site.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Dec 17, 2014

I ran it for kicks (that userbenchmark thing) and it's telling me my SSD is sata 3 but running at sata 2.

Bachbaabach · Dec 17, 2014

Calebe Costa said:
I just ran the test:

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/110097

The windows experience index can provide useful information in terms of where to develop further. I for example on your desktop computer Processor 7.4 Memory Of 7.6 Schedule Of 7.4 Graphics for a game of 7.4 Primary hard disk 5.9 and the Total score of 5.9, I would change the hard drive

Jetster · Dec 17, 2014

windows experience score is way to vague. All platter drives are 5.9 and going to an SSD is not always the best money spent

If you want a proper bench mark software just ask, Many here bench test systems everyday and it depends on what your testing as to what program you may use. Unigine Heaven is one of the first I use. We have threads with lots of results to compare. But there are many others

Jetster · Dec 17, 2014

Double post

Bachbaabach · Dec 17, 2014

Jetster said:
windows experience score is way to vague. All platter drives are 5.9 and going to an SSD is not always the best money spent

If you want a proper bench mark software just ask, Many here bench test systems everyday and it depends on what your testing as to what program you may use. Unigine Heaven is one of the first I use. We have threads with lots of results to compare. But there are many others

but he gives the motion vector of the it industry

last time used tests about 3 years ago with fireflies once was, and with a huge dragon

Jetster · Dec 17, 2014

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores.198888/

Calebe Costa · Dec 18, 2014

Jetster said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores.198888/

So i made the test.

These are the results:

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0
FPS:
14.2
Score:
357
Min FPS:
6.5
Max FPS:
40.6
System
Platform:
Windows NT 6.2 (build 9200) 64bit
CPU model:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz (2810MHz) x4
GPU model:
AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series 14.301.1006.0 (1024MB) x1
Settings
Render:
Direct3D11
Mode:
1360x768 8xAA fullscreen
Preset
Custom
Quality
Ultra
Tessellation:
Extreme
Powered by UNIGINE Engine
Unigine Corp. © 2005-2013

Calebe Costa · Dec 18, 2014

Calebe Costa said:
So i made the test.

These are the results:

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0
FPS:
14.2
Score:
357
Min FPS:
6.5
Max FPS:
40.6
System
Platform:
Windows NT 6.2 (build 9200) 64bit
CPU model:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz (2810MHz) x4
GPU model:
AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series 14.301.1006.0 (1024MB) x1
Settings
Render:
Direct3D11
Mode:
1360x768 8xAA fullscreen
Preset
Custom
Quality
Ultra
Tessellation:
Extreme
Powered by UNIGINE Engine
Unigine Corp. © 2005-2013

I use Windows 8.1 Pro, not the NT mentioned on benchmark.

Jetster · Dec 18, 2014

So if you changed nothing but the graphics card to a GTX 760 it should more than double your score

Another option would a be a used GTX 660 or even a AMD7850

m&m's · Dec 18, 2014

Calebe Costa said:
I use Windows 8.1 Pro, not the NT mentioned on benchmark.

Windows NT 6.2 is Windows 8.

Bachbaabach · Dec 19, 2014

The upgrade is good if funds allow and the situation, well at least the enthusiasm, there are true lovers of the ultra >_> in my country the prices of RAM growths in 3 times so I rather wait for more favorable weather.

By the way, how now weighs WoW about 30 GB?

If you increase the resolution up to 1920x1080 then the number of points to significantly decrease
with the advent of monitors with 4K resolution, I think to add another settings =)

Calebe Costa · Jan 7, 2015

Hello guys. It's me again.

Long time no see. Merry Christmas and Happy New Yar

So, as i said my auntie and family are in Orlando. I told to my uncle what he suposed to buy:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8690213&CatId=499

This one is for overclock purpose. I believe i can have a better performance with that.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1412141&CatId=11478

This one is also for bigger memory.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...ng-840-evo-120gb-tlc-sata3-6gbs-25-540mbs-_JM

I bought this one today and i according to mail info it will arrive Jan-13.

I believe (with ur help) now i'll have no issues with performance.

If i have no trouble i'll have all these item on Jan-13 and set in Jan-14.

I'll give a feedback when ready.

Thanks!!!

Dent1 · Jan 7, 2015

Calebe Costa said:
Hello guys. It's me again.

Long time no see. Merry Christmas and Happy New Yar

So, as i said my auntie and family are in Orlando. I told to my uncle what he suposed to buy:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8690213&CatId=499

This one is for overclock purpose. I believe i can have a better performance with that.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1412141&CatId=11478

This one is also for bigger memory.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...ng-840-evo-120gb-tlc-sata3-6gbs-25-540mbs-_JM

I bought this one today and i according to mail info it will arrive Jan-13.

I believe (with ur help) now i'll have no issues with performance.

If i have no trouble i'll have all these item on Jan-13 and set in Jan-14.

I'll give a feedback when ready.

Thanks!!!

This should solve your problem. Personally I feel the SSD is far too small.

Calebe Costa said:
Hello guys. It's me again.

Long time no see. Merry Christmas and Happy New Yar

So, as i said my auntie and family are in Orlando. I told to my uncle what he suposed to buy:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8690213&CatId=499

This one is for overclock purpose. I believe i can have a better performance with that.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1412141&CatId=11478

This one is also for bigger memory.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...ng-840-evo-120gb-tlc-sata3-6gbs-25-540mbs-_JM

I bought this one today and i according to mail info it will arrive Jan-13.

I believe (with ur help) now i'll have no issues with performance.

If i have no trouble i'll have all these item on Jan-13 and set in Jan-14.

I'll give a feedback when ready.

Thanks!!!

I think the SSD capacity was a mistake, 120GB isn't enough. I literally just did a clean install of Windows today, After Windows Update I have already eaten 55GBs for the OS. I have not installed any applications or games yet.

A 120GB SSD is about 111GB usable once formatted. Take about 55GB away for OS after Windows Update. You will be left with only 56GB of storage for all your applications and games. It's not enough space in 2015 IMO.

On the bright side your stuttering should stop.

xvi · Jan 7, 2015

Dent1 said:
I literally just did a clean install of Windows today, After Windows Update I have already eaten 55GBs for the OS. I have not installed any applications or games yet.

A 120GB SSD is about 111GB usable once formatted. Take about 55GB away for OS after Windows Update. You will be left with only 56GB of storage for all your applications and games. It's not enough space in 2015 IMO.

+1. My tablet has a ~~128GB~~ 64GB SSD and can't be swapped out. I can get a couple games on it, but the OS itself takes up a pretty hefty chunk of it and doesn't leave much left over. Desktop rig has 256GB and a mechanical drive. Most games get put on the mechanical and the games I play often get put on the SSD. Space hasn't been much of a concern with that setup.

Calebe Costa · Jan 7, 2015

Dent1 said:
This should solve your problem. Personally I feel the SSD is far too small.

I think the SSD capacity was a mistake, 120GB isn't enough. I literally just did a clean install of Windows today, After Windows Update I have already eaten 55GBs for the OS. I have not installed any applications or games yet.

A 120GB SSD is about 111GB usable once formatted. Take about 55GB away for OS after Windows Update. You will be left with only 56GB of storage for all your applications and games. It's not enough space in 2015 IMO.

On the bright side your stuttering should stop.

I understand your concern. Actually i'll just put OS and WoW. I'll put everything else on my Seagate 500GB.

xvi · Jan 7, 2015

I've got WoW on my SSD as well, but I'm not entirely sure it's helping much. Certainly not hurting though.

Calebe Costa · Jan 8, 2015

Dent1 said:
This should solve your problem. Personally I feel the SSD is far too small.

I think the SSD capacity was a mistake, 120GB isn't enough. I literally just did a clean install of Windows today, After Windows Update I have already eaten 55GBs for the OS. I have not installed any applications or games yet.

A 120GB SSD is about 111GB usable once formatted. Take about 55GB away for OS after Windows Update. You will be left with only 56GB of storage for all your applications and games. It's not enough space in 2015 IMO.

On the bright side your stuttering should stop.

Oh man now i'm a bit worried.

i found this guide:

http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-gui...ltimate-windows-8-edition/?PageSpeed=noscript

And reading the comments i believe some steps will actually make a make performance worst. Which steps should i avoid?

Jetster · Jan 8, 2015

128 is fine. Set to AHCI Just turn off restore and shrink your page file to 2048. Then turn off defrag. Thats it !!! Do nothing else

But you really needed a new GPU. Just my opinion. I just built a new PC with a GTX760 and G3258 and 8 Gb ram and it doubles your benchmark. 120FPS in WOW

Calebe Costa · Jan 8, 2015

Jetster said:
128 is fine. Set to AHCI Just turn off restore and shrink your page file to 2048. Then turn off defrag. Thats it !!! Do nothing else

But you really needed a new GPU. Just my opinion. I just built a new PC with a GTX760 and G3258 and 8 Gb ram and it doubles your benchmark. 120FPS in WOW

Memory, Watercooler and 840 Evo 120gb is on the way.

Calebe Costa · Jan 9, 2015

Yaaaaaay SSD probably are comming today or tomorrow. I actually have Win 8 Pro. With some updates it can become 8.1 Pro. Will i have some problem with that?

xvi · Jan 9, 2015

Shouldn't.

RCoon · Jan 9, 2015

Dent1 said:
A 120GB SSD is about 111GB usable once formatted. Take about 55GB away for OS after Windows Update. You will be left with only 56GB of storage for all your applications and games.

Not 100% accurate. My file server has the OS (Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit), all updates plus basic software (streaming, codecs, media players, AV, parsing and decompressing software) all on a 60GB SSD with around 15GB spare. It is completely viable to use a 120GB SSD for OS and all the OP's software. I just don't install games on an SSD because I simply don't see the point. Not even on my main rig with a 256GB SSD. I probably installed all of 3 games on there, the rest go on a HDD.

He could fit his OS and software as well as WoW on a 120GB SSD, but not a lot else. WoW would take up more space than his OS overall.

Calebe Costa · Jan 9, 2015

RCoon said:
Not 100% accurate. My file server has the OS (Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit), all updates plus basic software (streaming, codecs, media players, AV, parsing and decompressing software) all on a 60GB SSD with around 15GB spare. It is completely viable to use a 120GB SSD for OS and all the OP's software. I just don't install games on an SSD because I simply don't see the point. Not even on my main rig with a 256GB SSD. I probably installed all of 3 games on there, the rest go on a HDD.

He could fit his OS and software as well as WoW on a 120GB SSD, but not a lot else. WoW would take up more space than his OS overall.

My plans for the SSD is OS, WoW and maybe Dota 2 Only.

Everything else will stay on mechanical.

When the SSD set, i'll install Win 8 Pro on it then update to 8.1 Pro. Lots of updates will be installed. After that i'll try to somehow "move" WoW to the SSD. I'll not format my mechanical drive, as that said i'll have 2 8.1 Pro on my PC. 1 on my SSD and one on my mechanical.

On BIOS offcourse i'll set boot on SSD always. Will i be able have access on docs, files, games of my mechanical? It doesn't have any kind password.

xvi · Jan 9, 2015

WoW doesn't have much of anything in the way of registry entries or anything. You can move the folder wherever you like and it'll be perfectly happy. I've "installed" it a few times by just copying it off another computer and creating my own shortcut to the launcher.

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