Phenom II X6 1090T tested

[fullinfusion]

all this proc is is an x4 with two more cores, I say no one buy it and wait for the real mind bender to hit the market..... BULLDOZER!!!!
I know Im not wasting my cash on this chip , my 965 C3 is sweet and clocks like mad.... I'll just have to show some restraint and wait to the 24 threaded monster comes out later this year...anyone with me on this one?

 

[erocker]

I don't put any stock or viability in upcoming AMD processors. One can hope, but at the risk of disappointment, I'm not holding my breath. AMD talked a good game with Phenom I too and that lost me quite a bit of money.

 

[trickson]

I don't put any stock or viability in upcoming AMD processors. One can hope, but at the risk of disappointment, I'm not holding my breath. AMD talked a good game with Phenom I too and that lost me quite a bit of money.

So the phenom is not as good as you thought it was going to be ? Or are you sorry that you went with the phenom because the i7 is killing it and AMD has really nothing on the plate for some time to take over that lead ? And don't say Bulldozer as well that is far off into the future and could just end up being a reworked K10 .

 

[erocker]

So the phenom is not as good as you thought it was going to be ? Or are you sorry that you went with the phenom because the i7 is killing it and AMD has really nothing on the plate for some time to take over that lead ? And don't say Bulldozer as well that is far off into the future and could just end up being a reworked K10 .

The original Phenom sucked. It was barely better than K8. Complete flop. I bought stock in AMD before the release of Phenom and it's sucky-ness ruined AMD's stock. They still haven't recovered back to pre-Phenom days, making me still have to hold on to the stock to make any kind of money back. Maybe someday, but that's where I lost my money.

The Phenom II is a reworked K10.

I would never be sorry for not buying an Intel CPU.

i7 is more powerful (duh) but is a pointless CPU for me as a gamer.

I'm currently gaming just fine on a lesser system than is in my system specs.

Bulldozer is all new, from the architecture down to how it's physically produced.

I also, have a 1156 rig almost completed. (I should add that!)

 

[Tatty_Two]

......my Q6600 beats in in the super pi 1m sad, i would think that the amd would win would get much lower time

It's not sad... SuperPI is single thredded and therefore only rely's on raw speed from a single core, makes no difference if you had a 32 core jobbie in there, only one would be used in SuperPI. Strange thing from this is that I can understand the other 5 cores playing at around 2% activity as they will probably be playing with background processes but the one core working the hardest for the test is only at 7%...... wtf?

Edit: The screenie to the right seems pointless, thats obviously the activity AFTER the test duh!

 

[trickson]

I don't put any stock or viability in upcoming AMD processors. One can hope, but at the risk of disappointment, I'm not holding my breath. AMD talked a good game with Phenom I too and that lost me quite a bit of money.

The original Phenom sucked. It was barely better than K8. Complete flop. I bought stock in AMD before the release of Phenom and it's sucky-ness ruined AMD's stock. They still haven't recovered back to pre-Phenom days, making me still have to hold on to the stock to make any kind of money back. Maybe someday, but that's where I lost my money.

The Phenom II is a reworked K10.

I would never be sorry for not buying an Intel CPU.

i7 is more powerful (duh) but is a pointless CPU for me as a gamer.

I'm currently gaming just fine on a lesser system than is in my system specs.

Bulldozer is all new, from the architecture down to how it's physically produced.

I also, have a 1156 rig almost completed. (I should add that!)

It sounds like the disappointment you have is from investing in AMD as you stated the i7 killed them , But surly you must have know this was going to happen ? Man just think of the cash you could have made if you dumped it into Intel and the i7 line ! WOW you could have made out really well . Oh man sorry , Yeah well keep your chin up maybe bulldozer will close the gap Maybe . Next time split the money 2 ways . Odds are better that way .

I don't agree with you when you say that more power is pointless . I just don't think that is true with you or any one that is a member here .

 

[theonedub]

With more and more of this information coming out, the X6 is looking less attractive to current i7 owners (like myself) everyday. Still want to play with one though, but I am doubting it will even come close to matching my 860.

 

[Lionheart]

Stop baggin out AMD

 

[erocker]

I'm not usually a post pick-a-parter but...

It sounds like the disappointment you have is from investing in AMD as you stated the i7 killed them

I never claimed i7 killed AMD. Looking at history one could say it was more C2D. AMD killed themselves by resting on their laurels with K8.

But surly you must have know this was going to happen?

How? By sneaking into AMD's engineering labs? Nobody knew Phenom would flop.

But surly you must have know this was going to happen ? Man just think of the cash you could have made if you dumped it into Intel and the i7 line ! WOW you could have made out really well.

Naw, It would of cost me a fortune to buy Intel stock in the first place, I would of gotten a very minimal return. Buying already expensive stock is a bad investment unless you are a multi millionaire. I am unfortunately not.

I make a lot of investments, really it's about 60% of my job to make investments. AMD was the only real loser I ever picked, bah it was years ago. Good thing AMD bought ATi and have a good server market. It has saved them and their stock is pretty much back at pre-phenom levels.

I could care less about Bulldozer. Fact of the matter is, AMD has a good thing currently with Phenom II. The fact that i7 is faster doesn't make a single difference. AMD currently has a good price/performance ratio, is doing well in the server markets, makes some pretty darn good graphics cards. Just checked the stock too, I'm currently about even with it.

My chin isn't too big, it pretty much stays up on it's own power. Lol.

Also, I don't hate Intel, but I'd almost rather give the competition my money as Intel is big enough and doesn't need my money. They need better competition. AMD financially cannot keep up with Intel, it's amazing they are even still around. Throwing money at Intel would just make them stronger, competition would go away, then we can pay through the teeth for some crappy processor.

I like using AMD more than Intel. I dont' have problems with my computers in terms of performance. AMD makes good stuff, I've used AMD and Intel for many years, but I prefer using AMD.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

ill wait for an english review one guy on Xtremesystems has the 1055 and at 2.8ghz its faster then a Q9550 at 3.8ghz in alot of multi threaded tests by up to 50% so its all wait and see

 

[theonedub]

ill wait for an english review one guy on Xtremesystems has the 1055 and at 2.8ghz its faster then a Q9550 at 3.8ghz in alot of multi threaded tests by up to 50% so its all wait and see

If that turns out to be true, that would be pretty impressive. English reviews would be helpful- I want to see solid performance before I sell my AM3 AMD gear

 

[Kantastic]

If that turns out to be true, that would be pretty impressive. English reviews would be helpful- I want to see solid performance before I sell my AM3 AMD gear

Why would you sell your AM3 gear? You can just pop an X6 in your current board can you not?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i want a 965 6core would be nice but if i cant afford a 965 i cant afford thuban either lol but still its progress

 

[suraswami]

Why would you sell your AM3 gear? You can just pop an X6 in your current board can you not?

If the board got a bios update then its safe. Important factor I believe is the board should Dual-Plane circuit to handle the power requirements of Higher binned AM3 X4 and X6.

My main board (gigabyte UD4H) didn't get an update yet, but the latest mATX 760G DDR2 board that I bought has already an updated bios that supports X6. So I am just waiting for the proc with the right price so I can just use on the new board and oh it can unlock cores too stable . This is the board that showed me the 4Ghz path.

 

[theonedub]

Why would you sell your AM3 gear? You can just pop an X6 in your current board can you not?

Yes, I meant I want to know if the performance is great soon so I can decide to keep or sell my AM3 gear

Both my GB boards have 6 core support with BIOS updates

 

[Kantastic]

How exactly do I check if my newly acquired board supports Thuban?

Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UDP5

I don't see the CPU under the supported CPU list @ Gig's website and the latest BIOS doesn't mention X6 support.

 

[fullinfusion]

How exactly do I check if my newly acquired board supports Thuban?

Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UDP5

I don't see the CPU under the supported CPU list @ Gig's website and the latest BIOS doesn't mention X6 support.

same as the Cross Hair III.... it just shows a new update but dont show anything about x6 till you dig deeper into the web on what the bios update says

 

[fullinfusion]

i want a 965 6core would be nice but if i cant afford a 965 i cant afford thuban either lol but still its progress

Crazy I'll give ya first dibs on this cherry C3 965 chip when I get my x6 but only after It proves better..... Plus I'll sell it cheap to fellow members if I seen ya around in the past on a continuous basis

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

dude ive got a spending limit of $10 a month so unless ur willing to take some cash and a 940be and whatever other stuff i could round up im pretty much sunk my $85,000 in college loans has basically killed PC upgrades for me for the next 20 years altho then again if i hadnt given away the Asrock 790gx board for free id probably have said 965 or a 955 by now lol i really should stop giving stuff away for free.... like the gpu z asus giveaway if i get the 5870 im giving away my 5850 to a lucky forum user.... if i was a bigger prick id have nicer hardware lol

 

[kromoon]

Hello sry new here but I was reading your thread and I know my Ga-Ma790Xt got the 6 core update beta bios F8C.

 

[jagd]

Are you sure board is not a Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P ? because i could not find UDP5 ,if motherboard supporting 140w cpus it will support all thuban cpus in theory (there are 125w and 95w X6 cpus too ) of course youll need new bios.
For motherboard users dont support 140w cpus ;Dont lost hope ,youll still have a chance to install a X6 cpu with 125/95w models .

How exactly do I check if my newly acquired board supports Thuban?

Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UDP5

I don't see the CPU under the supported CPU list @ Gig's website and the latest BIOS doesn't mention X6 support.

 

[kromoon]

positive is a GA-MA790XT-UD4P,just go to drivers and bios for your board should be there if their is a update.

 

[kromoon]

Checked bios upate for FXT i'snt listed for it and not on CPU list so far

 

[Zubasa]

Well why not ? Why does some kid in china need it first ? !

1.3+ Billion peole in China period.
That is almost a quarter of the world.

 

[Tatty_Two]

ill wait for an english review one guy on Xtremesystems has the 1055 and at 2.8ghz its faster then a Q9550 at 3.8ghz in alot of multi threaded tests by up to 50% so its all wait and see

I would assume it would have to be with 2 more cores and 4 more threads? On top of that the comparison is between a nextgen 6 core AMD sample and an Intel quad core thats at least 2 generations old...... sad!