qubit's GT 1030 v GTX 580 showdown!

[EarthDog]

Heh, come on Qubit, grow pair! I'm not saying to put it to 5Ghz like you said happens "easily". Just set it to 1.35V and see how high you can get with your cooling. You won't kill the chip.... don't act like a n00b when you aren't one.

It is actually a very dated benchmark. Because it is CPU limited in many cases, it is being dropped from OCF's review suite. Perhaps if you added AA it would help it a bit (because who doesn't run AA when they can at 1080p???????), but as you can see from my results on that 1080 in DX11, its pretty damn CPU limited with your chosen settings. I'm just wondering how far down the GPU list that goes.

 

[qubit]

Heh, come on Qubit, grow pair! I'm not saying to put it to 5Ghz like you said happens "easily". Just set it to 1.35V and see how high you can get with your cooling. You won't kill the chip.... don't act like a n00b when you aren't one.

It is actually a very dated benchmark. Because it is CPU limited in many cases, it is being dropped from OCF's review suite. Perhaps if you added AA it would help it a bit (because who doesn't run AA when they can at 1080p???????), but as you can see from my results on that 1080 in DX11, its pretty damn CPU limited with your chosen settings. I'm just wondering how far down the GPU list that goes.

Oh gawd, you think I've got balls. World's biggest coward here.

Ok, I'll set the voltage to 1.35v try to get to it "soonish", but I can't promise exactly when. I appreciate your enthusiasm though.

And it really did get to 5GHz+, you know I wouldn't make that up. When I had it overclocked previously, it was doing 4.7GHz comfortably 24/7, but I don't know what the voltage was.

 

[EarthDog]

I believe you... I never had one that couldn't. And those were the easiest to overclock. Set voltage, set multi, test... failed and temps ok? raise voltage. Passed? Raise multi... rinse and repeat.

If it takes you more than 15 minutes to reach 4.8-5Ghz and run Heaven, you should never log in to an enthusiast site again and buy a damn Dell.

Thanks again.

 

[Artas1984]

Thank you very much for this interesting test!

So, GTX580 is 80 % faster than GT1030 in DX11 and 100 % faster in DX9. Amazing... That is much more than i expected. This heaven benchmark is a relevant program to show which cards became and are useless for gaming. Seems there is absolutely nothing left for GTX285 to do these days, it should be sold for free. Amazing what a piece of crap GT520 is - with that low score i can bet that it would not even beat a GeForce 7600GT 256 MB GDDR3. LOL


qubit, you don't have any real games to test?

Any progress on overclocking your CPU and seeing what happens to the GPUs here Qubit?

Yes, overclock your CPU to 4.5 GHz! It's not a big deal - just smack some 1.4 V on CPU and 2.1 V on PLL, use 45 multiplier on your turbo boost, but keep your base clock default, disable all C states, thermal monitor and EIST, only keep turbo boost on. Should be easy and stable. Don't overclock your RAM or base frequency. Core i7 2700K must be overclocked. Now that Earthdog provided his Core i7 7900X OC results, it will be interesting to compare them with Core i7 2700K OC.

 

[Shou Miko]

I know it might feel nostalgic to run a older Nvidia GFX that might got DX11 or DX12 support but if u can get a new lower-end gfx that doesn't require any power and can give u the same performance or get one that do better (shouldn't be that hard) I think the power bill depending on your gaming ofc will decrease if u go from a older 300watt card to a 75watt.

 

[EarthDog]

Thank you very much for this interesting test!

So, GTX580 is 80 % faster than GT1030 in DX11 and 100 % faster in DX9. Amazing... That is much more than i expected. This heaven benchmark is a relevant program to show which cards became and are useless for gaming. Seems there is absolutely nothing left for GTX285 to do these days, it should be sold for free. Amazing what a piece of crap GT520 is - with that low score i can bet that it would not even beat a GeForce 7600GT 256 MB GDDR3. LOL


qubit, you don't have any real games to test?



Yes, overclock your CPU to 4.5 GHz! It's not a big deal - just smack some 1.4 V on CPU and 2.1 V on PLL, use 45 multiplier on your turbo boost, but keep your base clock default, disable all C states, thermal monitor and EIST, only keep turbo boost on. Should be easy and stable. Don't overclock your RAM or base frequency. Core i7 2700K must be overclocked. Now that Earthdog provided his Core i7 7900X OC results, it will be interesting to compare them with Core i7 2700K OC.

There shouldn't be a need to touch PLL voltage, nor hit 1.4V for 4.5Ghz... my worst 2700K would do 4.5GHz 1.32V... Those chips under 5GHz are really voltage + multi and go.

 

[Shrek]

That GT 1030, was it a DDR4 or GDDR5 version?

* GT 1030 DDR4 vs. GDDR5: A Disgrace of a Graphics Card - YouTube

* Worst Graphics Card Ever! GeForce GT 1030, the DDR4 Scam Benchmarked - YouTube

 

[qubit]

@Andy Shiekh It's the GDDR5 version. Yes, I remember it getting panned in the reviews at the time, but it didn't matter, because it was the little brother of the GTX 580 and that's why I bought it, to compare. It's the smallest version of the Fermi GPU possible, in fact and the performance difference between the two is staggering, as you can see. It's ironic that the 580 will run out of memory sooner than the 1030.

I'll check out those links.

qubit, you don't have any real games to test?

Sorry for the somewhat late reply. This wasn't intended to be a full review, just a quick comparison that I felt like doing. Yes, I've got loads of games that I could compare them with, but I couldn't be bothered with all that testing. It's quite a lot of time and effort to do it all properly, even the tests I ran there.

 

[Liquid Cool]

I voted Other (explain)

Frankly because I've already owned one and I'm probably not likely to purchase another. Although...I did like how quiet the card was. I believe mine was an MSI brand, it did have a fan....and that fan was dead silent under normal operation.

I looked through my archives, I had it paired for a short amount of time to my x3470 xeon processor on an Intel DQ57TM motherboard.



Then...after I purchased an eVGA GTX 1050ti, I transferred it over to an Intel DQ67EP mini-itx motherboard with a core i5 2390t and sold it off in a combo.



The outcome is about the same for either platform.

I later replaced the GT1030 with a Dell RX 560 to use as a secondary card only to recently sell the replacement for more than double it's initial cost.

I've also recently parted with the remainder of my graphics cards. The Sapphire RX 570 Pulse ITX and my Sapprhire RX 580 8GB. If people want them at current pricing...well, I'll let them have them. It helped to finance a second pc. I did keep one spare.... a Gigabyte HD 7850 for when I do troubleshooting &/or repair.

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[qubit]

@Liquid Cool thanks for sharing. Was yours the DDR4 or GDDR5 version?

Check out @Andy Shiekh's links a couple of posts up for just how bad the DDR4 version is. Literally less than half the performance and absolutely terrible. I've looked at a couple of retailers and can only see the GDDR5 version now, unsurprisingly. The price is really high though. I bought mine in 2017 and it's much more expensive now, likely due to the GPU shortage.

I especially liked the derision shown to it by Gamers Nexus who threw the DDR4 card over his shoulder onto the floor to make the point that it was garbage.

 

[Liquid Cool]

Quibit...I didn't realize how old this thread was.....

The GT 1030 I had was the GDDR5 version. I purchased it very early in it's release cycle, probably within the first month or two. At the time, I also tested a GTX 1050, RX 460, RX 560, GTX 960, and finally settled on the GTX 1050ti as the greatest card that wasn't an RX 570. As I'm sure you recall, the RX 570's price was exploding to the upside. I literally couldn't get my hands on one before the cost/perf no longer made sense to me.

Best,

Liquid Cool

EDIT: I checked my invoice from Newegg. It was a Gigabyte GT 1030 and the model # is GV-N1030D5-2GL. The price was 72.99.

I also found this...

 

[Shrek]

I have two fan-less GT 1030 GDDR5 cards, not so much for the silence as not having a fan to wear out.

 

[Hardcore Games]

The Vega 11 graphics on my R5 2400G are near the GT 1030 in performance

My RTX 480 is much more powerful

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

The Vega 11 graphics on my R5 2400G are near the GT 1030 in performance

My RTX 480 is much more powerful

my 3200g vega 8 all but beats the gt 1030 thats why i sold mine

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

GeForce GT 520=A very good chance that it can't even beat my GeForce 9500 GT 512 MB from 2008, LOL. In fact, I only left my GeForce 9500 GT behind, because it was so slow! But it was built like a tank, not a single crappy cap manufacturer to be found. FP Cap caps dominated the PCB of the eVGA GeForce 9500 GT. They are known for long service life on motherboards. (Originally Fujitsu, Nichicon bought the FP Cap assets, IIRC)

The GeForce GT 640, decimated the GeForce 9500 GT, too, that Kepler, actually stood a chance, at least with 720p or lower res, especially the res usually used with CRT monitors.

In DirectX 9-based Halo: Custom Edition, even the GT 640 stood a chance, even at 1680x1050, IIRC, a res standard that apparently was from the Core 2 era, a Samsung monitor that I had briefly, was from the later socket 775 era. (monitor built in 2008) (I got it back in December, 2015)

 

[Nuckles56]

I've got a gt 1030 w/ GDDR5 in my HTPC and I have benched it in my main rig of the time for some of the various benchmark threads

 

[tabascosauz]

@Liquid Cool thanks for sharing. Was yours the DDR4 or GDDR5 version?

Check out @Andy Shiekh's links a couple of posts up for just how bad the DDR4 version is. Literally less than half the performance and absolutely terrible. I've looked at a couple of retailers and can only see the GDDR5 version now, unsurprisingly. The price is really high though. I bought mine in 2017 and it's much more expensive now, likely due to the GPU shortage.

I especially liked the derision shown to it by Gamers Nexus who threw the DDR4 card over his shoulder onto the floor to make the point that it was garbage.

Sorry in advance for the continued necro

tbh I'm pretty surprised at both of the 1030 GDDR5s in this thread not scoring higher. I've been told a few times over the past while that the 1030 kicks Vega 8 and 11 to the curb regardless of memory, but I guess I never verified those claims. Here's my daily Renoir Vega 7, it's not even Vega 8:



At one point I was flirting with the idea of getting a 1030 to see if I could push my Infinity Fabric higher (can go higher if you don't use the iGPU), but that would need an external PSU brick due to space.

I guess the tough part of saying which one's "better" is that it's never an even comparison. Even if it's GDDR5 the 64-bit bus is pretty limiting and the core is small. But at the same time integrated Vega has never had more than 8 ROPs while the 1030 has 16; I have a feeling that while it would get lower frames, it might not suffer the same frame drops in the few lighting-heavy scenes where my Vega 7 suffers. That scene is unaffected by memory bandwidth and only slightly mitigated with higher clocks.

But if we weren't in this GPU shortage I guess the "proper" comparison would be a GTX 1650 which is a big step up.

 

[qubit]

Sorry in advance for the continued necro

Oh no don't worry, thanks for helping to keep my thread alive!

But if we weren't in this GPU shortage I guess the "proper" comparison would be a GTX 1650 which is a big step up.

It simply depends what you want to compare with. In my case, I own both cards, so it was interesting to see how the bottom end of a later generation compared to the top end of a much older generation, GTX 580.

I threw a few other cards in there that I had and as you can see, it has roughly the same performance as a really old GTX 285 and double the memory. Comparing with the GT 520, which is the same gen as the GTX 580, one can see that the development of bottom end cards has continued as it's way faster than that. It's just a shame that IGPs now occupy that market segment, since we're unlikely to see any more bottom end cards, as when I buy my top end (or near the top end) card, I like to also buy the bottom end for comparison and benchmark them. It's always odd and interesting to see the small version have all the same features and accomplish the same things as the big version, but with only a fraction of the performance and also how much physically bigger that little card has to be to go faster.

If I could have bought an RTX 3080 and its little brother, the "RT 3030", which doesn't exist, you can be sure that I would have done that and created a similar benchmark thread.

 

[tabascosauz]

It simply depends what you want to compare with. In my case, I own both cards, so it was interesting to see how the bottom end of a later generation compared to the top end of a much older generation, GTX 580.

I threw a few other cards in there that I had and as you can see, it has roughly the same performance as a really old GTX 285 and double the memory. Comparing with the GT 520, which is the same gen as the GTX 580, one can see that the development of bottom end cards has continued as it's way faster than that. It's just a shame that IGPs now occupy that market segment, since we're unlikely to see any more bottom end cards, as when I buy my top end (or near the top end) card, I like to also buy the bottom end for comparison and benchmark them. It's always odd and interesting to see the small version have all the same features and accomplish the same things as the big version, but with only a fraction of the performance and also how much physically bigger that little card has to be to go faster.

If I could have bought an RTX 3080 and its little brother, the "RT 3030", which doesn't exist, you can be sure that I would have done that and created a similar benchmark thread.

For sure. Didn't mean to hijack your thread or crap on the 1030, just surprised it is a bit slower than I thought it was, not by much.

When (or rather, if) they kick Pascal to the curb and make a low-end low profile Ampere card, I think a comparison of my own will be due between the GT1030's successor and my 7-year-old R9 280X. I have that elusive 2-fan Vapor-X 280X that's really just their 7970 GHz Vapor-X in a new box, physically and functionally identical all the way down to the clocks, so it stands in for the 7970 and not the 280X. It still holds its own (successfully) against the 1050 Ti just not the 1650, so it'll be interesting. And with less (well, half) of the memory problem of the GTX580.

 

[Tartaros]

@qubit

You should have gone with a Crysis benchmark xD. I remember having to go to aa 8800 GTX for that game and later went to a GTX 295 for this damned game.

 

[qubit]

@qubit

You should have gone with a Crysis benchmark xD. I remember having to go to aa 8800 GTX for that game and later went to a GTX 295 for this damned game.

Thing is, I needed DX11 and tessellation, which Crysis doesn't have. Does that game have a benchmark mode anyway?

Oh and don't worry, it doesn't matter how powerful your PC is, it still won't be able to play Crysis.

 

[agent_x007]

Crysis has unofficial benchmark tool. You need to point to game directory and you can use it.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

While, OTOH, 3D Mark 2001 SE's Car Chase-High Detail, is CPU-biased! This benchmark loves Athlons (including socket 462) and don't like Pentium 4s so much, albeit I've received a result where a Pentium 4 Northwood, (and this was a CPU chip without HT) (made in 2002, IIRC) had better minimum frame rates than my Athlon XP Barton 3000+ (made in 2003, the year of the Barton launch) (with 845E chipset) (MSI 845E Max) (made in 2002) had that better result than my Asus A7N8X-X. (nForce 2) (made in 2004) Of course, the PCB of the MSI 845E Max, was red, seemed to have been a trademark PCB color (or pseudo trademark) of MSI back then!

 

[freeagent]

I plugged my GTX 580 Matrix Platinum in two days ago

I just wanted to see if it would work on a modern system.. takes a bit longer to get to the bios but she still works. I ripped a couple of laps of 3DM06 and it still overclocks like she did 11 years ago lol.. first time I’ve seen over 375w at the wall in a long time lol.. 1.5gb vram kinda blows too. Ahh well.

 

[seth1911]

Dont know what some guys dream allday i had a MSI 1030 GDDR5 and it was still about 10% faster than a Vega 8 from a 4750G with DDR4 4000, both on stock.
On OC the 1030 was about 20% faster, than a Vega 8 Oced to 2400 MHz.


With 2GB i dont buy any 1030 now, if a 4GB GDDR5 will come then yes.