Riding the Crypto wave

[phill]

How easy is Cryptonight to setup and is it worth a look? I don't leave the miner on all the time (solar panels are a blessing when its a kinda nice day...) but I am curious if I can make our miner more efficient and better than what it is..

What do your AMD rigs get roughly for a day? I'm looking at $8 a day from 6 cards... Is that low??

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

How easy is Cryptonight to setup and is it worth a look? I don't leave the miner on all the time (solar panels are a blessing when its a kinda nice day...) but I am curious if I can make our miner more efficient and better than what it is..

What do your AMD rigs get roughly for a day? I'm looking at $8 a day from 6 cards... Is that low??

Seams like crypto nights fell off the cliff edge to me since my rigs have all switched back to Eth and decred mining , that's one good point about nicehash if you have more than one algorithm allowed ie in default mode it mines the best coin.

 

[phill]

I was mining that before hand, I've just got Crypto installed, don't tell me it's a waste of time!! lol What algorithms are best to keep in there?? I'm still learning.. My mate did most of the work with this, I just supplied the hardware to begin with

 

[phill]

I've just been testing Crypto and it's massively different to what I've been used to... With the same clock speeds and memory speeds, the daily amount is slightly higher but the amount of power it's taking has dropped by I believe nearly a 1/3.... I'm not sure if I'm getting good results with my flashed 480's and if someone wouldn't mind telling me, I'd be very grateful

 

[trog100]

Seams like crypto nights fell off the cliff edge to me since my rigs have all switched back to Eth and decred mining , that's one good point about nicehash if you have more than one algorithm allowed ie in default mode it mines the best coin.

my cards have never mined cryptonight just the cpu but yes its fell off a cliff.. he he

trog

 

[phill]

What does everyone keep on in their Nicehash as our miner still seems to be on Cryptonight with others selected.. Would anyone mind telling me what they have selected at all? I've tried some benchmarks but some have failed but I'm not sure why...

 

[hat]

I have all algorithms my cards are capable of running selected. It's usually dual mining daggerhashimoto and decreed or running equihash... Cryptonight is/was an anomaly. Nicehash will auto switch depending on what's best at the time.

 

[phill]

I'm not sure I can get all of the algorithms running with my cards for some reason, some of them decide to crash and not run/benchmark.. Not sure why that would be??

I've just been doing some tests with Cryptonite and I'm very impressed with it since it runs cooler (not dual mining I think??)/uses less power and is at least twice as efficient to mine with.. Still it would take the miner 2 years of constant mining to earn 1 Bitcoin tho lol

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I've just been testing Crypto and it's massively different to what I've been used to... With the same clock speeds and memory speeds, the daily amount is slightly higher but the amount of power it's taking has dropped by I believe nearly a 1/3.... I'm not sure if I'm getting good results with my flashed 480's and if someone wouldn't mind telling me, I'd be very grateful

I personally think yours are set to too low a power slider your output seams a little low to me for six.

 

[phill]

I've tried it with just standard settings, so default settings to the entire setup and it didn't really make any difference at all for the speed but it did make it chew 920w instead of 600w nearly giving me the same hashrates... I've changed it back for the moment.... :s

 

[cdawall]

The one showing the 1070's/1080's? I was wondering if my AMD 480 flashed to 580's are running as well as they should be?? I'm only using a 1200w unit, so at the moment dual mining it's pulling about the 950w at the moment.... I've got it running 1130/2120 for core/ram settings with the core voltage down -96mV and power limit to -25% and temp limit to 62C.. My hash rates at the moment are 0.133G/4G H/s for ETH and SC.. I'm getting an average rate of 1.0mBTC a day from the 6 cards... Is this sounding about right or wrong to anyone?

133mh/s over 6 cards is only 22mh/s per card which is very low.

 

[hat]

I'm not sure I can get all of the algorithms running with my cards for some reason, some of them decide to crash and not run/benchmark.. Not sure why that would be??

I've just been doing some tests with Cryptonite and I'm very impressed with it since it runs cooler (not dual mining I think??)/uses less power and is at least twice as efficient to mine with.. Still it would take the miner 2 years of constant mining to earn 1 Bitcoin tho lol

Not sure why benchmarks would crash. Did you select benchmarks that were not selected by default? Maybe your cards don't support those.

Cryptonight isn't dual mining but that's not why it's efficient on power draw. It uses far less power than equihash which is also not a dual miner. Something else is going on...

 

[111frodon]

133mh/s over 6 cards is only 22mh/s per card which is very low.

My rx 480, running at 1325/2100 core/mem, stock volts and power target, is mining eth/dcr at a little over 23 Mh/s. I think it takes bios tweaks to go higher?

 

[cdawall]

My rx 480, running at 1325/2100 core/mem, stock volts and power target, is mining eth/dcr at a little over 23 Mh/s. I think it takes bios tweaks to go higher?

I have seen 28 stock from aftermarket cards, but for the most part yes. Have you checked my crypto stickied BIOS page?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I have seen 28 stock from aftermarket cards, but for the most part yes. Have you checked my crypto stickied BIOS page?

With the latest beta drivers in compute mode my refs and saphire pulses all can easily do 30 peaking 31.5 and are quite good at cryptonight.
Just have to bios flash the right memory timings with the right software but tbh on a per card basis this was a bitch especially the pulses so it depends what card.

 

[cdawall]

With the latest beta drivers in compute mode my refs and saphire pulses all can easily do 30 peaking 31.5 and are quite good at cryptonight.
Just have to bios flash the right memory timings with the right software but tbh on a per card basis this was a bitch especially the pulses so it depends what card.

You should add the BIOS's to my batch of cards. I want to have the most complete set of them possible

 

[phill]

Not sure why benchmarks would crash. Did you select benchmarks that were not selected by default? Maybe your cards don't support those.

Cryptonight isn't dual mining but that's not why it's efficient on power draw. It uses far less power than equihash which is also not a dual miner. Something else is going on...

I have probably tried getting the benchmarks to run on things that are meant for Nvidia hardware which won't really help when I'm running AMD lol But that said, I'm just going through each benchmark one at a time and testing which do and don't crash. I remember to run on Precise as well, as sometimes that helps with running the test and getting it passed first time.

My rx 480, running at 1325/2100 core/mem, stock volts and power target, is mining eth/dcr at a little over 23 Mh/s. I think it takes bios tweaks to go higher?

Do you know what wattage your pulling running that??

I have seen 28 stock from aftermarket cards, but for the most part yes. Have you checked my crypto stickied BIOS page?

Mine used to be that high but as the DAG size as gone up, each time it does, the hash rate drops...

With the latest beta drivers in compute mode my refs and saphire pulses all can easily do 30 peaking 31.5 and are quite good at cryptonight.
Just have to bios flash the right memory timings with the right software but tbh on a per card basis this was a bitch especially the pulses so it depends what card.

You should add the BIOS's to my batch of cards. I want to have the most complete set of them possible

I found this link last night - http://1stminingrig.com/amd-radeon-rx-400-rx-500-will-be-no-longer-profitable-for-ethereum-mining/

I hope it helps a little as reading it through I'm more or less running exactly the same speeds as is being mentioned in the article. My power draw and such are lower as well, so I'm happy ish, but the performance has dropped hard. AMD I think did realise some drivers that made it ignore the DAG file size I believe, but when I got them to work with my modded cards, the power draw was massive and I couldn't change it so I switched back as the extra performance sadly really didn't help against the extra power draw

I'd be more than willing to share some settings or test results that I have done if people would like to see

 

[111frodon]

I have seen 28 stock from aftermarket cards, but for the most part yes. Have you checked my crypto stickied BIOS page?

Yes. My msi model isn’t there. When i tried to unlock my nitro rx 460 4gb, with a bios from ocn forum i think, i never managed to install drivers correctly afterward. Same thing with my 290/290x.

@phill

Around 130-140w dual-mining eth/dcr. More like 80-90w for crypto. All from gpu-z, as I don’t have a kill-a-watt

This morning, it is still crypto that is more profitable for me.

 

[phill]

I've bought a few power meters, really useful and very helpful when you want to work out the cost of anything Definitely recommend one as the GPU-Z reports aren't the most accurate.. How many cards do you have in your rig?

From 6 480s @ 1145/2150, I'm pulling just over 600w I believe When I was dual mining that was up to about 950w from the wall according to the meter, massive drop in power consumption and it certainly more efficient and more profitable too Just running with a single 1200w unit..

 

[cdawall]

I have probably tried getting the benchmarks to run on things that are meant for Nvidia hardware which won't really help when I'm running AMD lol But that said, I'm just going through each benchmark one at a time and testing which do and don't crash. I remember to run on Precise as well, as sometimes that helps with running the test and getting it passed first time.



Do you know what wattage your pulling running that??



Mine used to be that high but as the DAG size as gone up, each time it does, the hash rate drops...





I found this link last night - http://1stminingrig.com/amd-radeon-rx-400-rx-500-will-be-no-longer-profitable-for-ethereum-mining/

I hope it helps a little as reading it through I'm more or less running exactly the same speeds as is being mentioned in the article. My power draw and such are lower as well, so I'm happy ish, but the performance has dropped hard. AMD I think did realise some drivers that made it ignore the DAG file size I believe, but when I got them to work with my modded cards, the power draw was massive and I couldn't change it so I switched back as the extra performance sadly really didn't help against the extra power draw

I'd be more than willing to share some settings or test results that I have done if people would like to see

If you are running block chain drivers they fixed the DAG performance drop issues. I still push over 30 on my 580/480 and 27-28 on my 470/570

 

[phill]

What drivers do you use and do you have modified cards that tweak the bios of the cards?

 

[111frodon]

I've bought a few power meters, really useful and very helpful when you want to work out the cost of anything Definitely recommend one as the GPU-Z reports aren't the most accurate.. How many cards do you have in your rig?

From 6 480s @ 1145/2150, I'm pulling just over 600w I believe When I was dual mining that was up to about 950w from the wall according to the meter, massive drop in power consumption and it certainly more efficient and more profitable too Just running with a single 1200w unit..

I have 3 290 and one 290x on a x5650/g1.assassin base (never managed to add a fifth card to this combo) and a rx 480 at home on a 2500k/z68. I know i’ll have to buy a meter, but I pay 0,05$ a kW, so power is not a priority...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

What does everyone keep on in their Nicehash as our miner still seems to be on Cryptonight with others selected.. Would anyone mind telling me what they have selected at all? I've tried some benchmarks but some have failed but I'm not sure why...

Crypto night , eth decred combo on radeon cards.
I enable equihash as well for Pascal and disable others as nice hash does occasionally mine weird low value shit sometimes if you let it , i also use the legacy version not v2 as its easier to setup.
@cdawall i looked at your bios collection before and was sure you had mine but ill make sure and post them if not.

@phill your cards might be set to the same frequency but with a bios flash the top memory timings are swapped for the 1750 memory timings (low level frequency timings for latency etc) which gives more bandwidth at the same speed mine show 268Gb/s in gpuz now for example.

 

[phill]

I have 3 290 and one 290x on a x5650/g1.assassin base (never managed to add a fifth card to this combo) and a rx 480 at home on a 2500k/z68. I know i’ll have to buy a meter, but I pay 0,05$ a kW, so power is not a priority...

I can understand that I have got solar panels as well, so I suppose you could say I don't have to worry about power as such, but this is the UK... It's kinda rare that we aren't rained on everyday lol I still like to see the power usage since I know that without modding the bios these cards will suck 1200w from the wall and as I have a 1200w PSU, I have to be a little bit careful

Crypto night , eth decred combo on radeon cards.
I enable equihash as well for Pascal and disable others as nice hash does occasionally mine weird low value shit sometimes if you let it , i also use the legacy version not v2 as its easier to setup.
@cdawall i looked at your bios collection before and was sure you had mine but ill make sure and post them if not.

@phillyour cards might be set to the same frequency but with a bios flash the top memory timings are swapped for the 1750 memory timings (low level frequency timings for latency etc) which gives more bandwidth at the same speed mine show 268Gb/s in gpuz now for example.

Thanks for that theoneandonlymrk I've just tried running GPU-Z and it's showing up unknown bandwidth for my cards? But they are clocked to 2150Mhz at the moment, I've never noticed having any issues at higher frequencies, the Asus Strix cards I have, have been completely rock stable and the temps are amazingly low
Do you not run with a modified bios at all? If you do, what driver version do you use?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I can understand that I have got solar panels as well, so I suppose you could say I don't have to worry about power as such, but this is the UK... It's kinda rare that we aren't rained on everyday lol I still like to see the power usage since I know that without modding the bios these cards will suck 1200w from the wall and as I have a 1200w PSU, I have to be a little bit careful



Thanks for that theoneandonlymrk I've just tried running GPU-Z and it's showing up unknown bandwidth for my cards? But they are clocked to 2150Mhz at the moment, I've never noticed having any issues at higher frequencies, the Asus Strix cards I have, have been completely rock stable and the temps are amazingly low
Do you not run with a modified bios at all? If you do, what driver version do you use?

Thats what im saying phill all my bios had to be modded , yes yours are set to run at a frequency but my flash bios drives the same frequency quicker via tertiary timings you normally cannot change ,only via bios mod.
And the power slider things important if set too low it will modulate the frequency of your cards ,you want it just high enough so it doesn't downclock the memory below its highest power state , some 580s have a mid power state making 3 in total top , middle and bottom, you don't want your memory stepping down to the middle state.
Monitor at least mid term what clocks your cards are holding once your sure your sure.

Amds latest 11.1 beta drivers set to compute mode (per card)in settings are as good if not better than the original blockchain drivers Amd released a few months back.