Threadripper with RTX build

[aQi]

Likewise and all of you i have the same opinion this guys comes with a sack of money and do not know things rationally.
Traditionally i never built an amd but sure will do so as i told the customer that i will thats why i put up this thread just to know where this leads and how on par will the performance would end up.
The so called reasonable answer provided to me by the customer was the core count TR has. Yet i highly doubt encodings and procossings with the emergance of 28core W3175X.
Ofcorse thats expensive but i have already provided him with reasonable options for the sake of performance and price ratio.
Yet he just wanted the hardware anyway. Even though im not sure why he is doing SLI with 2080ti and not looking towards Titan RTX.
Boy this isnt even fun building as its done with Intel.
ThreadRipper 2990wx
Asus Zenith Extreme x399
Samsung 970 pro 512gb
Asus Strix RTX 2080 ti OC 11gb x2

This has been confirmed by me as per recommendations. As he just wanted the hardware but i need to provide the best in same hardware specified.

For PSU i can go for seasonic ? Or better provide him with evga as i use evga gfx psu motherboards and all ??

 

[SoNic67]

And he spends $ on two 2080Ti GPU but the SSD is a measly 512GB? I have two 1TB ones in my system and only one 1080 as GPU...

 

[EarthDog]

I would get a 512GB for OS etc and 1TB for storage. Both NVMe SSD.

For PSU, I mean F it right? Grab a Seasonic Prime - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151195

I'd keep around 1000W for this guy with 3 250W parts. If he plans to overclock 1.3KW - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151214

 

[Gasaraki]

They call that 'a company backed by a powerful community'

We should get paid.

If that's what he wants go all out, who cares. Get a Seasonic 1200W Platinum, 2x 2TB Samsung SSD or 2x 980GB Intel Optane, 2x $1500 (USD) 2080Ti's and nvLink them. Add 3x 144Hz 4K monitors. etc.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

The problem with just doing what the customer wants is that when its performance does not measure up to expectations, the customer will come back and blame you - you must have done something wrong. Anything above the 1950X is ill advised for a Windows desktop system. You need Linux to really use all those cores/threads with the "WX" Threadrippers.
Windows 10 vs. Linux Performance On AMD Threadripper 2990WX

 

[SoNic67]

Hmm, all those tests are done with software that is specifically designed for Linux and crosscompiled for Windows. The optimizations are not at the same level, so I will take that info with caution.

 

[Bones]

Wrong. As a business you have to inform the customer what will not work and why, it's part of the service you provide.

Example: If you go with 4 spare tires (doughnuts) to the tire shop and tell them to install them on your car, they are required to tell you that's a bad idea and if it is even legal (most places is not). After that, they will do what you want, but they informed you. Sometimes they even make you initial a piece of paper that they did so.

No - Right.
That's a safety/reliability issue you refer to with the dinkys on a vehicle, that being affected directly by law with the potential of the worst to happen.
Building a PC is of an entirely different context.

Note that in the post I made below the first one that I did say go over the build with the customer, explaining things and just lay it all out for them.

However if the customer still tells you "I want this", that's what they want and are paying for in the end - At that point just build it and build it right, you've fulfilled your responsibility of informing them of pros and cons.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Hmm, all those tests are done with software that is specifically designed for Linux and crosscompiled for Windows. The optimizations are not at the same level, so I will take that info with caution.

I'm getting the feeling that you think I have something against AMD, and that's just not true.
Okay, how about Puget System's look at Photoshop performance? Photoshop CC 2019 CPU Roundup: Intel vs AMD vs Mac

 

[xkm1948]

ASUS X399 offering is shit. Really bad VRM and NOT suited for 2990WX like at all. MSI MEG X399 or Gigabyte DESIGNARE EX X399 are the only 2 I would recommend.

 

[Vayra86]

Likewise and all of you i have the same opinion this guys comes with a sack of money and do not know things rationally.
Traditionally i never built an amd but sure will do so as i told the customer that i will thats why i put up this thread just to know where this leads and how on par will the performance would end up.
The so called reasonable answer provided to me by the customer was the core count TR has. Yet i highly doubt encodings and procossings with the emergance of 28core W3175X.
Ofcorse thats expensive but i have already provided him with reasonable options for the sake of performance and price ratio.
Yet he just wanted the hardware anyway. Even though im not sure why he is doing SLI with 2080ti and not looking towards Titan RTX.
Boy this isnt even fun building as its done with Intel.
ThreadRipper 2990wx
Asus Zenith Extreme x399
Samsung 970 pro 512gb
Asus Strix RTX 2080 ti OC 11gb x2

This has been confirmed by me as per recommendations. As he just wanted the hardware but i need to provide the best in same hardware specified.

For PSU i can go for seasonic ? Or better provide him with evga as i use evga gfx psu motherboards and all ??

In all fairness, just build precisely what he asks. Make sure you include the quad SLI as well, provide the bridges, and let him discover there isn't any support. Have some fun building it

Also in this case I'd recommend a dual system, certainly looks like a requirement for casual gaming on one side and encoding on the other. There are actually cases that accomodate that, too

 

[SoNic67]

I'm getting the feeling that you think I have something against AMD, and that's just not true.
Okay, how about Puget System's look at Photoshop performance? Photoshop CC 2019 CPU Roundup: Intel vs AMD vs Mac

My point was for Linux vs Windows comparation.
There are numerous examples of software that is designed for Windows and scales well with number of cores. And other examples of NLE editors that work better with Intel CPUs.
OpenGL is one of the places where AMD shines... and PS is still a Mac/OpenGL legacy software. However, Intel is top performer there too, so I don't get your point.
My point for this thread is that the above system seems very unbalanced and without knowing what will be used for, we can't extrapolate.

 

[aQi]

Thought of editing the thread to elaborate more. So the customer really did not want any other options i gave him and has a stright head towards TR.
Sorry i forgot to mention the 512gb 970 pro is just for OS. Day before yesterday he asked for 4x 2tb Sata SSD and then changed his mind over to 4x 4tb normal sata harddrives. So basically that option is still on hold.

Moreover i would like to know for the cooling of this cpu ? Coolermaster’s wraith is a basic passive option the way i see it. Cpu with such TDP must and should be running with water cooler.

And then if Asus Zenith is not a good option then what will be even the best there is ?

And sorry guys the person is never interested in overclocking.

And another thing people (end user) have more knowledge towards their products, pros and cons for what they should buy. Personally i dont think TR should be an option if you are looking just for the sake of core count.


You know what guys the least thing i was worried about has emerged.
Warrenty claim issues.

No local warrenty provision other then personal or international.

Im not in favor of personal and international takes a really long while.

Any suggestions??

 

[EarthDog]

Tell him its all on him. You'll ensure its built properly and works. That's it.

 

[aQi]

Tell him its all on him. You'll ensure its built properly and works. That's it.

Earth! Then there is no point building the system for him. I know this person, he will come crying to me. And what else i can do? I am not an AMD kinda guy. But the thing is, i do import stuff where most people refrain due to custom duties/taxes etc. Thats why he came to me in the first place and tells me straight “aqi bro what do you think of amd ? “
Said: Amd is already on its feet head to head with intel.
So he says great here is what i need......

 

[EarthDog]

This is why i got out of the business of building PCs for people over a decade ago. Support. I can't stand dealing with the general populous and their lack of knowledge. I learned early that users need to go through the companies themselves after the first 30 days.

What else can you do? Build enough profit into the build itself to be his support. Or give him a support contract for a year for $xxxx...

Brotha, we can't do all of the thinking for you... maybe building PCs isn't for you?

 

[aQi]

This is why i got out of the business of building PCs for people over a decade ago. Support. I can't stand dealing with the general populous and their lack of knowledge. I learned early that users need to go through the companies themselves after the first 30 days.

What else can you do? Build enough profit into the build itself to be his support. Or give him a support contract for a year for $xxxx...

Brotha, we can't do all of the thinking for you... maybe building PCs isn't for you?

Not in the mood to quit bro. I do back and forth depending on other priorities. People just keep draging me back into this once in a while and when im free its all about PCs and modding.

Im just saying that customer these days have bright knowledge yet the confusion is of selection. There are so many options to chose from. There was a time with limited hardware and no such market segmants. Anyways Amd was never my taste yet i am trying to offer services as per the customer needs.

 

[MrPerforations]

EVGA psu is the only choice, 10 year warranty.

 

[cdawall]

EVGA psu is the only choice, 10 year warranty.

Several companies offer that same warranty with equal and better competing products.

 

[R-T-B]

You're building this for a customer...but need advice to do so? What kind of company are you running?

My thoughts exactly.

If you need advice on this... maybe wrong business to jump into? No offense intended.

 

[Vlada011]

Several companies offer that same warranty with equal and better competing products.

EVGA PSUs are one of best selling last 5 years.

Why ASUS Zenith is not good option? You must research how Threadripper 2990 work in software you plan to use.
That's processor for serious work, some softwares simply can't see all of his cores and he lose advantage.
Intel Xeon with 28 cores is so expensive that profit from work should be very nice to justify such processor.

I believe 2950X is good choice.
ASUS Zenith motherboard.
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB is better choice than 512GB faster PRO.
Size is bigger difference and more important than speed.
Performance of bigger models are better than smaller and they are closer to PRO then.

Memory should be 3200MHz, but no QVL 64GB.
Never mind, CORSAIR Dominator Platinum or GSkill Trident Z kits will work nice.
Maybe you could save money if you don't need RGB. But Dominator Platinum RGB is extremely nice kit.
4x 16GB modules. CMT64GXM4C3200C16

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236519

God I like that kit.

I serious advice you to use 1TB M.2.
We should remove easy from HDD.
I have 1TB M.2 NVme, 1TB SATA III SSD, 120 GB SATA III SSD and 2TB WD Black. I bought 1TB storage devices to abandon HDD.
WD Black is only component I hear in my computer. And I don't know why I not remove him out, because 850 EVO 1TB is empty literary.
I must be damned to keep WD Black 2TB mechanical drive only because storage to annoy me.

 

[er557]

that ram kit cas latency seems a bit high, I wonder what it is in 2133mhz, which is applicable to my system. I already snagged a similar 2666mhz kit quite some time ago from amazon used warehouse, @500$, but it's timings were 15-15-15-35