TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[oobymach]

That looks a bit dusty on the outside but dust free insideI I have seen another one on a new site SHPOCK i tried to make an account but it said my phone number might not be valid?Has anyone heard of this make. Midion cybermaxx. ? Pentium 4 3ghz 512MB Ram pc tower NO HARD DRIVE.That looks dusty on there.
I take it would have to be an ide drive? Ir could i use a CF card? Ir would be ideale for Win 98.
Belkin wireless 54 MBPS adapter All working - no hard drive
NVidia GeForce FX5200. £20 pounds on face book.I bet it weighs a ton though. As i would have to collect it
from the other side of London.I don,t drive so have to use public transport.Goes it take a normal sized PSU?

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I remember finding one free on the side of the road that might have been it, it had issues so I replaced the ram and it ran fine after that, single core pentium 4 cpu @ 2.93 ghz. I put a geforce 8400 in it because it didn't have any 6pin power connectors and that card was widely available and cheap at the time. Desktop grab from that pc.

 

[MachineLearning]

I'm super happy, got a CH341A programmer and - after frying a BIOS chip - successfully flashed a donor chip to P16 for my Foxconn Destroyer. Now I can have dual BIOS again, after a bad flash! I'm such shit when it comes to keeping BIOS chips alive lol..

I noticed something new during boot with BIOS G18 - this display is faster from standby than my usual one:

I've never seen this "Engineering Release" message on any board I own. Does anyone here happen to know what that message is referring to? I figure it's the chipset potentially being ES, or the BIOS... I'm kind of hoping the board is a late ES, rather than the BIOS not being 100% finalized.

NB date code is Wk14/2008 if that helps anyone.

 

[Greenslade]

I guess getting an old HDD isn't a hard thing to do. I have too many small drives lying around myself.

Have you herd of the PC make?
It is made for wondows 98.Could i use a CF card?
And what do you think of the PC should i take a chance on it?I realise the Pentium 4 is crap,or is it not so bad with with Windows 98?
.Or sjhould i go for the Dell Dimension e520 with dual core i don,t know which one it has in it 15 poinds ..

from our OZ freind Phil I just wished i lived near the seller who is selilng the Dell for 10 poinds incliding the moniter.

 

[lexluthermiester]

all though it has MS dos you have to do a lot to get it runnung with and still does not work as in
Windows 98.

This is true. But here's the details: WinME still has a DOS mode, but you have to reboot to get into it, which is something Win98 didn't have to do. But once in DOS mode, it's smooth as silk. When you take into account the fact that WinME can use more RAM and is in general more stable, the inconvinience of having to reboot into DOS is far over shadowed by the benefits and WinME becomes the clear choice for Win9X kernel based OSes.

I do not use Win95 or Win98 at all anymore for retro systems. It's always: install WinME, set some post install tweaks, install drivers, removal of IE and Bob's your uncle.

I guess getting an old HDD isn't a hard thing to do. I have too many small drives lying around myself.

I wouldn't bother with an old HDD. These days I go with a CompctFlash to IDE adapter and a 16GB, 32GB or 64GB CompactFlash card.

Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter Converter Card | eBay

1 Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter. Bootable from CF. Support CF-!, also support IBM micro-driver with CF- ! IDE: 40 pin female. This adapter does NOT support hot insertion of CF cards.

www.ebay.com

and

SanDisk 32GB 64GB 128G CF Extreme 120MB/s Compact Flash Memory Card SDCFXSB | eBay

Professional-Grade Video Capture VPG-20 lets you capture smooth Full HD video without interruption. USB Flash Drives. Will call available in Santa Clara CA.

www.ebay.com

Together you're talking about $45 to $50 shipped at the most.

This will vary depending on location in the world, but you get the idea.

Acer Aspire M3640 Desktop PC with Intel Core 2 Q6600

• Acer Motherboard for Aspire M3640, mATX MSI N1996 LGA775
• Q6600 quad core processer - although this is old (from 2008) it still works fine
• 3GB DDR2 RAM - a 2GB stick and a 1 GB stick
• DVD-RW Drive
• Card Reader - great if you have old camera equipment for example

That will not run a Win9X OS at all. No driver support for multiCPU or PCIe. Look for an AGP based system for Win9X support. However, that does look like a solid buy for $25.

Got this in the mail today, Slot A system. Athlon 700MHz Thunderbird & Shuttle AI61.

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Paid $25 shipped as tested not working, first time booting it up it just gave continuous fast beeps from the speaker. Figured I'd try reflashing the bios just to see and believe it or not it booted up just fine afterwards.
I'd say that was $25 well spent, I just bought it as a collectible since it was very cheap and didn't expect it to actually work.

I guess this means I need to go build a GFD now, luckily there's plenty of user made ones floating around now so that shouldn't be too hard.

If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the golden Athlon A's that could OC without any additional voltage and a change to the FSB(100->133) and a multiplier drop(5.5 or 6). For $25 that's a score!

 

[DR4G00N]

If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the golden Athlon A's that could OC without any additional voltage and a change to the FSB(100->133) and a multiplier drop(5.5 or 6). For $25 that's a score!

Interesting, I hope I can try that out sometime.

ATM just trying to get XP installed is a real pain, it doesn't know what to do with my 40GB drive and I don't have any other available drives big enough for XP. One of the newer bios' may fix this but I can't find them anywhere.

I'm going to give my Promise tx2000 ide raid card a try and see if that does better, it worked well for my BH6 which did the same thing so I'm hoping it does just as good with this.

 

[Keullo-e]

Have you herd of the PC make?
It is made for wondows 98.Could i use a CF card?
And what do you think of the PC should i take a chance on it?I realise the Pentium 4 is crap,or is it not so bad with with Windows 98?
.Or sjhould i go for the Dell Dimension e520 with dual core i don,t know which one it has in it 15 poinds ..

from our OZ freind Phil I just wished i lived near the seller who is selilng the Dell for 10 poinds incliding the moniter.

You can use a IDE-CF adapter practically in any build, though some CF cards can be problematic in very old computers.

To be honest, I'm a wrong guy to talk about Win98 as I haven't used it since 2006. But Pentium 4 should be okay with it. Just make sure to install Win98 SE, not the older non-SE.

 

[Greenslade]

This is true. But here's the details: WinME still has a DOS mode, but you have to reboot to get into it, which is something Win98 didn't have to do. But once in DOS mode, it's smooth as silk. When you take into account the fact that WinME can use more RAM and is in general more stable, the inconvinience of having to reboot into DOS is far over shadowed by the benefits and WinME becomes the clear choice for Win9X kernel based OSes.

I do not use Win95 or Win98 at all anymore for retro systems. It's always: install WinME, set some post install tweaks, install drivers, removal of IE and Bob's your uncle.


I wouldn't bother with an old HDD. These days I go with a CompctFlash to IDE adapter and a 16GB, 32GB or 64GB CompactFlash card.

You can use a IDE-CF adapter practically in any build, though some CF cards can be problematic in very old computers.

To be honest, I'm a wrong guy to talk about Win98 as I haven't used it since 2006. But Pentium 4 should be okay with it. Just make sure to install Win98 SE, not the older non-SE.

Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter Converter Card | eBay

1 Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter. Bootable from CF. Support CF-!, also support IBM micro-driver with CF- ! IDE: 40 pin female. This adapter does NOT support hot insertion of CF cards.

www.ebay.com

and

SanDisk 32GB 64GB 128G CF Extreme 120MB/s Compact Flash Memory Card SDCFXSB | eBay

Professional-Grade Video Capture VPG-20 lets you capture smooth Full HD video without interruption. USB Flash Drives. Will call available in Santa Clara CA.

www.ebay.com

Together you're talking about $45 to $50 shipped at the most.

This will vary depending on location in the world, but you get the idea.


That will not run a Win9X OS at all. No driver support for multiCPU or PCIe. Look for an AGP based system for Win9X support. However, that does look like a solid buy for $25.


If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the golden Athlon A's that could OC without any additional voltage and a change to the FSB(100->133) and a multiplier drop(5.5 or 6). For $25 that's a score!

Thats what our friend Clint says

You can use a IDE-CF adapter practically in any build, though some CF cards can be problematic in very old computers.

To be honest, I'm a wrong guy to talk about Win98 as I haven't used it since 2006. But Pentium 4 should be okay with it. Just make sure to install Win98 SE, not the older non-SE.

Thats what our friend Clint says about CF cards being problematic with some very old PC,s

Thanks once again for all your help.

This is true. But here's the details: WinME still has a DOS mode, but you have to reboot to get into it, which is something Win98 didn't have to do. But once in DOS mode, it's smooth as silk. When you take into account the fact that WinME can use more RAM and is in general more stable, the inconvinience of having to reboot into DOS is far over shadowed by the benefits and WinME becomes the clear choice for Win9X kernel based OSes.

I do not use Win95 or Win98 at all anymore for retro systems. It's always: install WinME, set some post install tweaks, install drivers, removal of IE and Bob's your uncle.


I wouldn't bother with an old HDD. These days I go with a CompctFlash to IDE adapter and a 16GB, 32GB or 64GB CompactFlash card.

Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter Converter Card | eBay

1 Compact Flash CF to 3.5 Female 40 Pin IDE Bootable Adapter. Bootable from CF. Support CF-!, also support IBM micro-driver with CF- ! IDE: 40 pin female. This adapter does NOT support hot insertion of CF cards.

www.ebay.com

and

SanDisk 32GB 64GB 128G CF Extreme 120MB/s Compact Flash Memory Card SDCFXSB | eBay

Professional-Grade Video Capture VPG-20 lets you capture smooth Full HD video without interruption. USB Flash Drives. Will call available in Santa Clara CA.

www.ebay.com

Together you're talking about $45 to $50 shipped at the most.

This will vary depending on location in the world, but you get the idea.


That will not run a Win9X OS at all. No driver support for multiCPU or PCIe. Look for an AGP based system for Win9X support. However, that does look like a solid buy for $25.


If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the golden Athlon A's that could OC without any additional voltage and a change to the FSB(100->133) and a multiplier drop(5.5 or 6). For $25 that's a score!

Thanks for all your info on this I will take your advice and go the Cf routeShould i go with this
Midion cybermaxx Pentium 4 3ghz 512MB Ram it looks very dusty in there
NVidia GeForce FX5200 DVD RW
Belkin wireless 54 MBPS adapter All working - no hard drive £20
In the listing he says it is in stock, as if it is a shop.Or should i wait for a dell dimension e521 to come up?
I take it you you have not heard of the * Midion cybermaxx* make of PC?

 

[Keullo-e]

That could work. The case looks pretty ass though as there's no holes for exhaust fan unless you make a hole for one.

 

[Greenslade]

That could work. The case looks pretty ass though as there's no holes for exhaust fan unless you make a hole for one.

I get your point,thats a bummer

 

[Keullo-e]

I get your point,thats a bummer

It could probably be replaced by a standard mATX/ATX case though. The motherboard looks pretty standard though it's not a great pic.

 

[Greenslade]

It could probably be replaced by a standard mATX/ATX case though.

I am not up to that.I will give it a miss after you mentioning about a exhaust fan. I have finally found a video about it all being in German. i realise is not the same modal

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for all your info on this

You're welcome, no worries. Once you get it all together and running, chime in and show us pictures!

 

[AlwaysHope]

Today I got a hold of Asrock 890GM Pro3 mATX board. The SB850 southbridge is the world's first native Sata 3 specification chipset for desktop systems. Now I can mount my Phenom II 1055T on that baby, see how we go with it.... then try my Phenom II 905e next... scored this board for imo bargain basement $ too!

Not too bad as a windows 10 backup machine for light desktop duties...

 

[MachineLearning]

Today I got a hold of Asrock 890GM Pro3 mATX board. The SB850 southbridge is the world's first native Sata 3 specification chipset for desktop systems. Now I can mount my Phenom II 1055T on that baby, see how we go with it.... then try my Phenom II 905e next... scored this board for imo bargain basement $ too!
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Not too bad as a windows 10 backup machine for light desktop duties...

Best ASRock SB heatsink design ever, IMO. The Z77 Extreme4 is second place I think.

No VRM HS, perhaps undervolting / underclocking a Thuban would be kind to the board

Also knowing the size of those mosfets, heatsinks like these should fit well and go miles. ASRock alongside MSI made some firecrackers for AM3... but this board shouldn't be one with chronic problems.

 

[Keullo-e]

Hmm, my Xeon X3230 may be dead, the P5Q Pro setup didn't post with it. But with Q9500, posted immediately.

I'll put it back together later, as I disassembled the whole setup and tested it on desk.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hmm, my Xeon X3230 may be dead, the P5Q Pro setup didn't post with it. But with Q9500, posted immediately.

Or the board might not have the microcode for that Xeon.. maybe..

 

[Keullo-e]

Or the board might not have the microcode for that Xeon.. maybe..

It worked before. And it's a native LGA775 chip, just has a BSEL mod on its LGA pads.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It worked before. And it's a native LGA775 chip, just has a BSEL mod on its LGA pads.

Weird. Was that the one you were OCing to high heaven?

 

[Keullo-e]

Weird. Was that the one you were OCing to high heaven?

Nothing special on that, as I don't have that good DDR2 what it comes to overclocking, I think you mix that with my Pentium D925 which I ran CB at 4.8GHz

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nothing special on that, as I don't have that good DDR2 what it comes to overclocking, I think you mix that with my Pentium D925 which I ran CB at 4.8GHz

I might also be thinking of a different thread..

 

[Keullo-e]

I might also be thinking of a different thread..

Probably, as I love OC'ng Netburst chips just because they achieve higher clocks.

 

[Greenslade]

You're welcome, no worries. Once you get it all together and running, chime in and show us pictures!

After Lenne,s comments about it i will leave it.And wait tell a Dell Dimension comes up at the right price.I just wish that the one for £10 with a Monitor was in the London area, instead of being miles away.

 

[Keullo-e]

After Lenne,s comments about it i will leave it.And wait tell a Dell Dimension comes up at the right price.I just wish that the one for £10 with a Monitor was in the London area, instead of being miles away.

Yea... try to get one with a decent case as you said, you don't wanna to change the case, so it's good if it has support for some fans.

 

[Greenslade]

Yea... try to get one with a decent case as you said, you don't wanna to change the case, so it's good if it has support for some fans.

Dells are poor in that respect it seems .What do you think of this one
Dell dimension 8300 Old pc unused working but no hard drive installed on facebook but i would have to ask what the specs are.£20 his had ot on there for 14 weeks.
Just that one photo of it.There is this one on there to 3000 £15 make an offer also on Facebook.Currently it has no OS, so the new owner will need to install there desired OS It has a 80GB PETA HDD It has 512MB RAM Open to any offers or questions.This one is out of my area but not to far out ,i would have to get a train there.Train fares in the uk are exspencive. If it was maximun of 10 pounds return it could be worth while ,that is if it is near the station, as i should think it is a heavy bugger to carry..

Which is the better modal ?

Which one is a newer modal?
It seems the train fare is under 10 pounds.
The one i have to get a train to see has put more photos up it it looks very spass in there with no cards in there. But dust free.The 8300 one is a very grainey crap photo.

 

[Keullo-e]

Fuck, if you could visit Finland, I could assemble u a good retro setup for free.

But for now, ur in UK? I want you to come with me to take few beers when I visit UK.