Upgrade to 7700K was a let down!

[alucasa]

If I was given a free 7700k, I would ask the guy if I could sell it right away and sell it.

 

[Kanan]

Youll have the same minor glass ceiling any SB based cpu has with a highdr end gpu. More cores wont help that.

Well I have 7 mb more l3 cache as well so it's not "any" SB processor, It's comparable to 6700K without! overclocking it. With overclocks it's easily as fast as 7700K or faster making a "upgrade" to 7700K just silly and dumb.

If I was given a free 7700k, I would ask the guy if I could sell it right away and sell it.

Right, I would rather sell it and get a proper 6800K then, which is an actual high end cpu and not a stupid 4 core once again.

 

[jboydgolfer]

not a stupid 4 core once again.

Your post has moved me. ...... I will now burn all my CPUs that are less than six Cores

 

[alucasa]

Me has enough cores.

 

[Kanan]

Well im glad Ryzen AMD is ending 4 core dominance once and for all.

 

[alucasa]

That was bound to happen. Intel had the dominance for a decade. Hard not to get complacent over such a long period.

 

[Kanan]

Still AMD did a great job with Ryzen. 52% more ipc.

 

[purecain]

intel have brought their product line ahead of schedule. so we can expect to see mainstream 6core intel desktop cpu's very soon. I think everyone whos upgraded recently is going to feel a little guttered when these new cpu's arrive.

I'm not waiting for their supposed 20%ipc improvement. ryzen hits the spot nicely with 8c 16t.

 

[alucasa]

Considering how bad FX was, the improvement was easy.

FX was 100% slower than Haswell in Blender.

 

[Kanan]

Nothing was "easy" about Ryzen. This is a disrespectful statement. Are you an engineer?

 

[alucasa]

Nope. For AMD, Ryzen was finally bringing stuff up to date.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah, no, It's still a remarkable achievement whether you respect it or not.

 

[alucasa]

I have respect for neither company since I am no fanboy of either.

 

[Kanan]

Has nothing to do with being a fanboy, It's just called being a decent human being to respect the good work of other people.

 

[alucasa]

As a consumer, I go where price / performance matters. Respect has little to do with my choice of purchase unfortunately.

 

[Kanan]

Nice you changed the subject. For obvious reasons. /nuff said

 

[EarthDog]

Well I have 7 mb more l3 cache as well so it's not "any" SB processor, It's comparable to 6700K without! overclocking it. With overclocks it's easily as fast as 7700K or faster making a "upgrade" to 7700K just silly and dumb.

3960x needs to be close to 6ghz to match KL IPC at stock. Average overclocks on air/water are 4.7ghz according to hwbot. Its not until subambient these can hit 5ghz.

Cache really isnt going to be a factor in not limiting a high end gpu.. sorry. Maybe the cache is thw same, otherwise, its still way behind ipc wise.

Anyway, again, i hear ya... you use the cores. Makes sense.

 

[alucasa]

Nice you changed the subject. For obvious reasons. /nuff said

Doh. You changed subject. For obvious reasons.

Listen, seeing you getting all worked up means you are a fanboy. Sorry, pal. That's how it looks to me.

 

[Kanan]

I never said it can match its ipc in fact that is impossible as instructions per clock isn't about a amount of core clock it's about instruction per clock, do you actually know what you're speaking of? Seems not like it.

And L3 cache helps for anything. Hearing "advice" from a guy who don't knows the real meaning of IPC is useless anyway, sorry.

Doh. You changed subject. For obvious reasons.

No I did not.

Listen, seeing you getting all worked up means you are a fanboy. Sorry, pal. That's how it looks to me.

Bullshit I just don't like it when people behave like that. You're disrespectful. Simple. Would you do the same with Intel or Nvidia I would react all the same. Laughable try to mark me as a fanboy.

 

[alucasa]

Aye, I am disrespectable. I agree with that.

I hold little respect for a company (Intel in this example) to linger on improvements and eventually end up rebranding stuff before getting a rude awakening.

I also bear little respect for a company (AMD now) to fail to capitalize their success with Athlon and let Conroe rape them.

By the by, why are you going all technical now?

Edit: Poor spelling on Athlon

 

[dorsetknob]

intel have brought their product line ahead of schedule. so we can expect to see mainstream 6core intel desktop cpu's very soon. I think everyone whos upgraded recently is going to feel a little guttered when these new cpu's arrive.

I'm not waiting for their supposed 20%ipc improvement. ryzen hits the spot nicely with 8c 16t.

i laughed out loud more than a little at the above
any HEDT 6core intel releases in response to AMD's latest offering is going to play KY Jelly your Wallet and Bend over games

 

[Kanan]

Aye, I am disrespectable. I agree with that.

I hold little respect for a company (Intel in this example) to linger on improvements and eventually end up rebranding stuff before getting a rude awakening.

I also bear little respect for a company (AMD now) to fail to capitalize their success with Althan and let Conroe rape them.

You know what? Do what you want, and behave like you want, I don't care.

 

[alucasa]

Of course, we do what we want. We are humans after all.

Whether you care or not regarding others' behavior is up to you, sire.

 

[EarthDog]

I never said it can match its ipc in fact that is impossible as instructions per clock isn't about a amount of core clock it's about instruction per clock, do you actually know what you're speaking of? Seems not like it.

And L3 cache helps for anything. Hearing "advice" from a guy who don't knows the real meaning of IPC is useless anyway, sorry.

No I did not.

.

I mentioned IPC as you mentioned a high end gpu and keeping the thing for a few years. IPC is where its at for those types things. Sure, cache plays a role, but it isnt going to make as big of a difference as you seem to infer.

I clearly know what IPC means... in a bit of irony, you didnt seem to understand my comparison??? Let me clarify... at the same clock its 20-25% slower. So in order for the slower cpu to be as fast, clocks need to be that 20-25% higher or so. Make sense now? These types of comparisoms are done all the time bud.

At this point, im just not sure why you are resorting to throwing barbs out about my knowledge from your glass house. What happened to you man...over the past couple months you have really turned for the worse. Its tough to disagree with you and have it stay on the up and up...

But... this has turned all 'red herring' now (like your duscussion with alu) so, ill just leave it be. Clearly this isnt getting anyone anywhere and is dissolving into insults for no reason.. For shame.

 

[alucasa]

Yeah, this perv went a little too far. My apologies @EarthDog. I will withdraw from this thread.