upgrading from a 6600K

[dgianstefani]

Definitely 11400, if you can I would get the non-f version, as IGPU is very useful for backup GPU, and can be utilised in some workstation software as a rendering accelerator.

 

[Melvis]

Will the AMD B450 boards support DDR5 five to six years from now?

Does ANY board out now support DDR5 in five to six years from now?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

As a counterpoint, I've actually seen an increase in average package power consumption when gaming with the 5800x vs the 10850k. Using the same GPU and playing the same game, the 10850k averaged 65-70w, and the 5800x 70-75w. The 10850k had its power limits removed, while the 5800x I've needed to lower to 95w (122w PPT) from the stock 105w (142w PPT). I probably need to try some voltage offset with the 5800x, but the 10850k isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

10850K is one of the only 10th Gen CPUs I'd consider. It is a great CPU with great value atm.

i got the 3700x for around 310USD
and the board for 160USD

all in all i am pretty impressed with the performance of the 3700X
currently I OC'd the RAM to 3000MHz CL19, lock the fclk to 1500MHz (1:1 ratio)
this thing eats 2 instance of memu and genshin impact like nothing.

while the 6600K 4.5GHz would struggle even when playing genshin and 1 instance of memu

Nice, glad to see you're satisfied with the performance. That's a pretty big jump, no wonder it can handle it easily.

Oh you went with a ROG Strix board? Even better. My B550-F handles everything I threw at it unlike my previous Gigabyte POS.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Hoping you went B550 as well.... definitely wouldn't want to be on 450 for the next 4+ years.

 

[milewski1015]

Hoping you went B550 as well.... definitely wouldn't want to be on 450 for the next 4+ years.

Doesn’t sound like it. B450 would only prevent them from having PCIe 4.0 and maybe have wonky compatibility with a potential 5000 series upgrade. Is that what you’re referring to?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Doesn’t sound like it. B450 would only prevent them from having PCIe 4.0 and maybe have wonky compatibility with a potential 5000 series upgrade. Is that what you’re referring to?

The majority of B450 boards are pretty poor and depending on how they are used don't handle the 12+ core cpu very well..... There are pretty large gap in quality comparing the B450 strix F and B550 varient.... a 5900X and a high end gpu 3-4 years from now would pair much better with a B550 varient. Even a gpu as slow as a 5700X sees gains of up to 5% in some games with pcie gen 4 vs 3 and I'm guessing that will become more prevalent as time goes on.

I've used multiple B450 boards Tomahawk/Strix F/Pro Carbon/steel legend and all of them were pretty poor quality wise compared to the B550 board's I've used Tomahawk/Edge/Strix E.

So really only going by my own experiences with them never been a huge fan. Full disclosure I felt X370/470/B350 were all pretty terrible except a few high end boards like The Crosshair 6/7/Aorus Gaming 7. I still have a Strix X470 F in a box that's pretty terrible but it was free so whatever.

The op already went with the slowest cpu for gaming that he was asking about hopefully he didn't pair it with the worst board aswell.

 

[freeagent]

Thanks, that's good to know.. I was considering a cheap b450-f for my kids computer driving a 3600XT.. maybe he will get a B550 instead.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Thanks, that's good to know.. I was considering a cheap b450-f for my kids computer driving a 3600XT.. maybe he will get a B550 instead.

ROG Strix B550-F is a fantastic board, speaking from experience. Cheaper than the B550 Aorus Pro I bought which was a dumpster fire.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Thanks, that's good to know.. I was considering a cheap b450-f for my kids computer driving a 3600XT.. maybe he will get a B550 instead.

If it's really cheap and you stick with a 65w cpu it's fine.

 

[freeagent]

If it's really cheap and you stick with a 65w cpu it's fine.

I think its a 95w CPU iirc. That's ok maybe I will give him my B550-F and move up a model.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I think its a 95w CPU iirc. That's ok maybe I will give him my B550-F and move up a model.

Yeah that would most likely be fine as well... Isn't it pretty cool up there in Canada .... I personally don't believe in buying any board that doesn't eaisly handle all cpu that are compatible with it's socket but to each their own.

 

[freeagent]

I think so! Maybe I will get the one that is two models up.. its making me cringe just thinking of it.. I will probably just get the wifi one.

Yes! it is nice and cool here until the summer, then it might as well be some country along the equator

My 5600X can suck 140w from this board, I wouldn't trust a lower end setup.. especially when guys who have actual experience with it are giving the advice.

 

[AhokZYashA]

The majority of B450 boards are pretty poor and depending on how they are used don't handle the 12+ core cpu very well..... There are pretty large gap in quality comparing the B450 strix F and B550 varient.... a 5900X and a high end gpu 3-4 years from now would pair much better with a B550 varient. Even a gpu as slow as a 5700X sees gains of up to 5% in some games with pcie gen 4 vs 3 and I'm guessing that will become more prevalent as time goes on.

I've used multiple B450 boards Tomahawk/Strix F/Pro Carbon/steel legend and all of them were pretty poor quality wise compared to the B550 board's I've used Tomahawk/Edge/Strix E.

So really only going by my own experiences with them never been a huge fan. Full disclosure I felt X370/470/B350 were all pretty terrible except a few high end boards like The Crosshair 6/7/Aorus Gaming 7. I still have a Strix X470 F in a box that's pretty terrible but it was free so whatever.

The op already went with the slowest cpu for gaming that he was asking about hopefully he didn't pair it with the worst board aswell.

its maybe slow for gaming, but it is miles better than a 6600K

the performance jump everywhere is amazing
including casual gaming and multitasking

this B450 board probably will handle 3700X just fine.
from what i read

 

[milewski1015]

The majority of B450 boards are pretty poor and depending on how they are used don't handle the 12+ core cpu very well..... There are pretty large gap in quality comparing the B450 strix F and B550 varient.... a 5900X and a high end gpu 3-4 years from now would pair much better with a B550 varient. Even a gpu as slow as a 5700X sees gains of up to 5% in some games with pcie gen 4 vs 3 and I'm guessing that will become more prevalent as time goes on.

I've used multiple B450 boards Tomahawk/Strix F/Pro Carbon/steel legend and all of them were pretty poor quality wise compared to the B550 board's I've used Tomahawk/Edge/Strix E.

So really only going by my own experiences with them never been a huge fan. Full disclosure I felt X370/470/B350 were all pretty terrible except a few high end boards like The Crosshair 6/7/Aorus Gaming 7. I still have a Strix X470 F in a box that's pretty terrible but it was free so whatever.

The op already went with the slowest cpu for gaming that he was asking about hopefully he didn't pair it with the worst board aswell.

Yeah, compared to B550, B450 is quite lacking. But that’s mainly because B550 is essentially a refined X570 board (not referring to PCIe lane allotment of course) - the majority of B550 boards have on par or better VRMs than their X570 counterparts, as well as similar IO and featuresets. Part of that is because the AM4 processors have carved out quite a name for themselves - motherboard manufacturers aren’t limiting their high-end models strictly to Intel platforms anymore, and that trickles down throughout the product stack to some degree.

B550 would certainly provide a better upgrade path for OP (3700X -> 5900X like you suggested), but if they’re keeping their system for at least 5-6 years anyway, they’d likely be looking at a whole platform upgrade, similar to what they’re doing now moving on from their 6600K.

 

[Why_Me]

Does ANY board out now support DDR5 in five to six years from now?

After reading your post I thought it was all about that upgrade path. The next upgrade for the OP six years from now will be an entirely new platform.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

its maybe slow for gaming, but it is miles better than a 6600K

the performance jump everywhere is amazing
including casual gaming and multitasking

this B450 board probably will handle 3700X just fine.
from what i read

"Slow for gaming" is entirely subjective and depends solely on if it's fast enough for you. New gen having faster single thread doesn't automatically render the old gen redundant & obsolete. My 3900X still manages to deliver my monitor's refresh rate in terms of FPS in all the games I play, sometimes even double that, and that's enough for me.

Don't feel bad about your purchase, enjoy it, especially since you're seeing so many performance improvements already.

"Obsolete", just like time, is a man made concept.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

its maybe slow for gaming, but it is miles better than a 6600K

the performance jump everywhere is amazing
including casual gaming and multitasking

this B450 board probably will handle 3700X just fine.
from what i read

It's not slow at all It's a very solid cpu I have one and like it only slower comparatively to the other cpu you were interested in for gaming. And let's be real just about any modern cpu 3000/5000/10th/11th gen is miles better than a 6600k. If you did your research and came to the conclusion that your 2 components were what's best for you given your budget nothing wrong with that at all

 

[AhokZYashA]

It's not slow at all It's a very solid cpu I have one and like it only slower comparatively to the other cpu you were interested in for gaming. And let's be real just about any modern cpu 3000/5000/10th/11th gen is miles better than a 6600k. If you did your research and came to the conclusion that your 2 components were what's best for you given your budget nothing wrong with that at all

it is not slow by any means.
it eats anything i throw at it like a champ.

i am very happy with this.

i am now still learning to tweak the OC and memory settings to get the best possible results while maintaining a good temperature.
and this old corsair RAM now running at 3000MHz CL18 with a slight jump in voltage.
nice

 

[oxrufiioxo]

i am now still learning to tweak the OC and memory settings to get the best possible results while maintaining a good temperature.
and this old corsair RAM now running at 3000MHz CL18 with a slight jump in voltage.
nice

At some point maybe after your next gpu upgrade pick up a 3600 CL16/17 kit and you'll be golden.

 

[Melvis]

After reading your post I thought it was all about that upgrade path. The next upgrade for the OP six years from now will be an entirely new platform.

Maybe? How do you know? as I cant see myself upgrading to a whole new platform for a good 10yrs (from the time I bought my PC) as the 5950x lets say will be a good CPU for a long time to come (when I decide to upgrade from the 2700X) So yes he might or he might do what I do and find the performance is fine at the time, who knows! its going to be all about the software more so then the hardware honestly to take advantage of these massive multi threaded beasts.

 

[Nater]

the main problem is when i play some mobile games on android simulator
it is painfully slow

Have you tried BlueStacks? (Get version 4, version 5 seems to suck IMO) Anyone with a set budget that upgrades 5-6 years shouldn't even be thinking about moving from a 3700X to one small generation forward. (for the record, my B450 started w/ a 2600 w/ GTX 1070, then 2600 w/ 5700XT, then 3600X w/ 5700XT, and now 5800X+5700XT)

 

[AhokZYashA]

At some point maybe after your next gpu upgrade pick up a 3600 CL16/17 kit and you'll be golden.

i will upgrade the GPU when the prices are sensible enough.
currently the prices are idiotic, and i am still pretty pleased with how the 1070 performs

when 16GB of RAM is not enough, probably i will get a nice high speed RAM

Have you tried BlueStacks? (Get version 4, version 5 seems to suck IMO) Anyone with a set budget that upgrades 5-6 years shouldn't even be thinking about moving from a 3700X to one small generation forward. (for the record, my B450 started w/ a 2600 w/ GTX 1070, then 2600 w/ 5700XT, then 3600X w/ 5700XT, and now 5800X+5700XT)

i have tried a few types of emulators, and memu seems to be the lightest and with good feature set for me.

but i will try bluestacks again in the future

 

[jesdals]

If its this board it looks very nice https://rog.asus.com/dk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_bios resizeble bar is a option for your cpu and if you ever get some memory like these https://www.proshop.dk/RAM/Patriot-Extreme-Performance-Viper-Steel/2808496 or other with good Samsung B-dies you might be able to unlock the full potentiel of your 3700x - I would gues at least CL14 at 3600Mhz with a Infinity setting at 1800MHz should be possible with that board - good luck and congratz

 

[X71200]

B450-F has a dumb VRM config, it's not great but the Patriot Vipers are nice if can be had at good price. For instance the 4000 kit.

 

[AhokZYashA]

If its this board it looks very nice https://rog.asus.com/dk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_bios resizeble bar is a option for your cpu and if you ever get some memory like these https://www.proshop.dk/RAM/Patriot-Extreme-Performance-Viper-Steel/2808496 or other with good Samsung B-dies you might be able to unlock the full potentiel of your 3700x - I would gues at least CL14 at 3600Mhz with a Infinity setting at 1800MHz should be possible with that board - good luck and congratz

yes, it is that exact board.
i am pretty pleased with the featureset and the amount of ports it have
dunno about the vrm though, but it can run 3700X at 4.1GHz with PBO, i am not complaining