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What are you most excited for?

What are you most excited for?

  • AMD Zen 4 (Ryzen 7000)

    Votes: 7,073 31.5%

  • Intel Raptor Lake (13th Gen)

    Votes: 1,825 8.1%

  • NVIDIA Ada (GeForce 40)

    Votes: 4,858 21.6%

  • PCIe 5.0 SSDs

    Votes: 666 3.0%

  • AMD RDNA3 (Radeon RX 7000)

    Votes: 8,035 35.8%
  • Total voters
    22,457
  • Poll closed .
Out of the all listed? Maybe RDNA3, I'm curious what sort improvements can be made by AMD when it comes to RT performance.
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Well, they'll have some sort of dedicated RT hardware (in RDNA2 RT was calculated on the shader hardware) with similar performance as NV. The chips are big and there's only so much room for improvement on all fronts. Gone are the days of 100% over previous generation, that's why I chose "none".
 
We don't need new CPUs; Reviewers still have to go out of their way with ridiculous, unrealistic settings, just to remove the GPU bottleneck that shows small differences between a budget i5 and a 12900KS. The overwhelming majority of games are GPU limited, Professional rendering is already moving to GPU-rendering, so the old days of Cinebench/Blender software render scores being relevant are numbered, and most productivity software is still bottlenecked by a single-core, if it's even multithreaded at all!

Between the 40-series and RDNA3, all the rumours are pointing towards Nvidia taking the monolithic, unbelievably expensive approach with giant dies, insane core counts, and ludicrous power consumption and MSRPs.

We know almost zero about RDNA3, other than they're going to be using chiplets - which have been a resounding success for CPUs and solve the scalability issues that have limited GPUs for well over a decade.

So yeah, my vote for RDNA3 is a no-brainer. If it's genuinely a working multi-die solution, it'll start a new era of GPU technology akin to the wake-up call that the CPU industry had in 2017 (and perhaps you'll remember how much the stagnation sucked before then with Intel refusing to move beyond quad core for EIGHT goddamned GENERATIONS!!)
 
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"AMD RDNA™ 3 gaming architecture that combines a chiplet design, next generation AMD Infinity Cache™ technology, leading-edge 5nm manufacturing technology, and other enhancements to deliver more than 50% greater performance-per-watt compared to the prior generation."

“Zen 4” CPU core expected to power the world’s first high-performance 5nm x86 CPUs later this year. “Zen 4” is expected to increase IPC 8%-10% and deliver more than a 25% increase in performance-per-watt2 and 35% overall performance increase compared to “Zen 3” when running desktop applications." Source

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Let's see if the claims turn out to be true. :cool: Power efficency will be a big selling point this time around.
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The important thing to remember is that power efficiency is generally performance per watt and not that these architectures will sip power in comparison to the current generation cards.

Ampere walks all over Turing in terms of power efficiency, yet the TGP figures have only steadily climbed over time. The same can be said for RDNA 2 over the original RDNA and especially over GCN 5.1 (Radeon VII). On Zen 4 though, I suspect the newer node plus updated IOD (since Vermeer reuses the same IOD from Matisse) will largely be responsible for these improvements, but again, the TDP on the "7950X" processor has increased considerably against the 5950X.
 
First time in a long time for me to pick the most popular option (as of now) in a TPU poll!

I think an option for 3D Zen4 might have caused me to think a little on it.
 
Hi,
Got to put those gpu's on something and amd 7k is the most interesting item so far.
 
Chrispy_ said:
We don't need new CPUs; Reviewers still have to go out of their way with ridiculous, unrealistic settings, just to remove the GPU bottleneck that shows small differences between a budget i5 and a 12900KS. The overwhelming majority of games are GPU limited, Professional rendering is already moving to GPU-rendering, so the old days of Cinebench/Blender software render scores being relevant are numbered, and most productivity software is still bottlenecked by a single-core, if it's even multithreaded at all!

Between the 40-series and RDNA3, all the rumours are pointing towards Nvidia taking the monolithic, unbelievably expensive approach with giant dies, insane core counts, and ludicrous power consumption and MSRPs.

We know almost zero about RDNA3, other than they're going to be using chiplets - which have been a resounding success for CPUs and solve the scalability issues that have limited GPUs for well over a decade.

So yeah, my vote for RDNA3 is a no-brainer. If it's genuinely a working multi-die solution, it'll start a new era of GPU technology akin to the wake-up call that the CPU industry had in 2017 (and perhaps you'll remember how much the stagnation sucked before then with Intel refusing to move beyond quad core for EIGHT goddamned GENERATIONS!!)
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Actually there's huge differences in many games between for example, a 5800x3d and a 5800, with minimum frame rates going up by almost 100% or more even, averages can also see a significant increase between CPU tiers, people with high frame rate displays such as myself, can make use of these differences. I particularly enjoy having my frames not dip below 237 which is my own cap. Frame consistency is important for muscle memory and accuracy in many esports or competitive games.

You may actually do better in games if you limit your FPS to what your hardware can consistently deliver, fluctuations between 120-240 will affect you more than playing constantly at 120fps and never dipping. In my view this is a main strength of PC gaming, you can setup your rig to deliver a smooth and consistent experience that you can then train with.

There's also the example of badly optimised games such as tarkov, war thunder, star citizen etc. All of these saw *significant* improvements in average and minimum frames when I moved from a 5950x to a 5800x3d, allowing me to run consistently above 150fps instead of dipping to less than 60 on occasion.

What I'm saying is that your experience with gaming is not representative.

New CPU generations are going to have significantly more cache which will do a lot to eliminate microstutters and bad 1%/0.1% frames for all games, even (especially?) old ones.
 
I'm interested in all of these, except the PCIe 5.0 SSDs. I'm interested in better random read performance than NAND can deliver, but the only viable candidate for that is off to the same cemetery as Betamax and Itanium. Of the rest, while I voted for RDNA 3, my preference is:
  1. RDNA 3
  2. Zen 4 (primarily because of AVX-512)
  3. Raptor Lake (single threaded performance likely to be slightly better than Zen 4)
  4. Ada
 
Excited for? Can I choose none of the above? I would say I'm interested in what AMD can show with Zen 4.
 
Intel Arc A700 series for me. It's not in the poll, though.
 
Not really excited for any of them. Tbh I'm a bit burnt out on all the typical drippings of late. Altho they do give us something to talk about I suppose.
I guess I'm most interested in rdna3 for no other reason than there hasn't been much talk about it so far. Hopefully AMD makes ngreedia sweat some of course. Ideally they put the boots to em but that's peeerobably wishful thinking. :/
 
AusWolf said:
Intel Arc A700 series for me. It's not in the poll, though.
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That's because it will be a steaming pile of shite just like the A380
 
My 34” OLED UW…I hav no preconceived notion’s off when it will get here, I knew that when I ordered it.
THEN I might be eyeballing RDNA3 to push some more FzPS or get a reasonably priced 6800XT like I originally wanted….
 
R7 7700X, RX 7700XT and X770 chipset and M700 Nvme makes for an epic build, but the chipset is out next year. this year only the 670E and everything overpriced. So I'm excited about it. It remains only a pretty picture never to actually afford and work with, I'd rather save for the 9900 9900 990 build.
 
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R7 7700X, RX 7700XT and X770 chipset and M700 Nvme makes for an epic build, but the chipset is out next year. this year only the 670E and everything overpriced. So I'm excited about it. It remains only a pretty picture never to actually afford and work with, I'd rather save for the 9900 9900 990 build.
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I highly doubt AMD would run another chipset so soon after the X670/X670E unless you have a source for your sauce
 
As a non-gamer I don't need much GPU power. An iGPU will do fine (yeey, Zen 4 now also has them! :oops:). So those options don't get my vote.
PCIe 5.0 SSDs are a nice technological evolution. But I'll probably won't notice the difference with my Samsung 970 Evo Plus much, so not too excited about that. It'll bring prices of gen4 SSDs down I guess, which is always good.
But in the coming 6 months I'll be in the market to replace my Ryzen 5 3600 build with either a Zen 4 7600X or a 13th gen Core i5. As Zen 4 is announced earliest, that's got my vote :)
 
Zen5 will be good, but why buy straight away. At least give it a couple of months for any primary updates and for initial motherboard tests so you don't buy a lemon.
 
AM4isGOD said:
Zen5 will be good, but why buy straight away. At least give it a couple of months for any primary updates and for initial motherboard tests so you don't buy a lemon.
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Few if any from the forums will buy anything before seeing Wiz or one of the boys beat the hell out of it ;)
It's just more fun to talk like you would vs not.
 
I'm really excited for none of the above.
I really want to build a near silent small gaming SFF PC (15L max) with a 65W APU but not this year.(i don't like headsets and i want near silent gaming with a good silent cooler and regarding case mATX capability in order to have inexpensive choices, something like an Aerocool Playa Slim but with higher quality.
I have a plan to build it around Q4 2024.
An ideal scenario would be a 3nm Zen4+ APU-TOP model in the APU product stack (or Zen5 if we are lucky but probably it's kinda early for Zen5 gaming grade APU implementation in 2024) with something like a 3.2GHz RDNA4 (maybe it's early also for Q4 2024 regarding RDNA4 in IGP form) with (fingers crossed) 32RBs and 2560SPs at around RX6600 performance level or even more.
It should be possible (barely) to be a in the same inexpensive design logic like Rembrandt (i mean without implementing exotic memory solutions like HBM with interposers etc) so between $299-$399 SRP.
I don't care if it's RDNA 3 or 4 based, but there is great probability imo in 2024 for RDNA4 based PS5/Xbox mid-cycle refresh console models so if RDNA4 based it should have 5 years (or more) good gaming support with drivers, that's the main reason i would prefer RDNA4 based IGP.
It's not the most cost effective solution for the performance level that it will achieve, but i really want 65W max TDP for CPU+GPU combined!
 
I'm dying to see how RDNA3 goes, and if their MCM approach is the same paradigm shift for GPUs as it was for CPUs.

Both RDNA3 and Lovelace are expected to nearly double performance over last gen which is pretty exciting. I'm still waiting for true next-gen VR, and my assumption is that companies like Valve aren't interested in releasing it until GPU power catches up to the massive resolutions required. Dual 4K at a solid 90fps might finally be doable with this new gen.

With a 5700X I'm all good on the CPU side for the foreseeable future. I don't do esports games, and I already cap my system at 120 fps.
 
I'm going with: "too broke 2 care"

Chrispy_ said:
(and perhaps you'll remember how much the stagnation sucked before then with Intel refusing to move beyond quad core for EIGHT goddamned GENERATIONS!!)
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Actually, it was longer than that since AMD already had the Phenom II X6 before the Core i era (Core 2 Duo/Quad but not Hex era).
 
mplayerMuPDF said:
Actually, it was longer than that since AMD already had the Phenom II X6 before the Core i era (Core 2 Duo/Quad but not Hex era).
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yeah, I was counting from Core2 Q6600 to i7-7700K. That's eight generations, no?
 
Athlonite said:
That's because it will be a steaming pile of shite just like the A380
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Steaming pile of shite or not, at least it's something different.
 
dgianstefani said:
We don't particularly need more CPU power, especially for gaming. Current gen 12900k/5800x3d can do 1440p/240fps with no issues.
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Well, there's always those of us that skipped few gens, and thus jumping to eg Zen4/AM5 looks very tempting.

My PC is so outdated that I could just check all the boxes ;D but in order of priority it's Zen4 then RX 7000 series then PCIe 5.0 SSDs. Though my piggy bank will want that stretched to 2 years, so might be RX8000 :-o
 
LuxZg said:
Well, there's always those of us that skipped few gens, and thus jumping to eg Zen4/AM5 looks very tempting.

My PC is so outdated that I could just check all the boxes ;D but in order of priority it's Zen4 then RX 7000 series then PCIe 5.0 SSDs. Though my piggy bank will want that stretched to 2 years, so might be RX8000 :-o
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Why are you so set on RX series GPU?

Buy what is best for your use - in some cases this is Nvidia.

Brand loyalty benefits noone.
 
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