What are you playing?

[Splinterdog]

Guess who?

Up close and personal

 

[rtwjunkie]

Neat! How is it performance wise, smooth or jittery like some reviews say?

I hadn't even noticed it had launched already lol

Well, for me, no issues, but I’m only running it on High at 60 fps. I decided on High not Ultra when I ran the Benchmark on Ultra and it used 22GB of RAM and used 10 GB of VRAM, and still managed to hitch and barely get above 55 fps and went down to 40, and then back up. At high, I still think it looks great and is very smooth. I have had only a few stutters in places, which I attribute to the game having been made for 30 fps.

As to the game, I am loving it. You have a story, and there are side quests, but you are free to go where you want, when you want. It is also very easy to get your butt thoroughly kicked. You don’t “clear” and claim regions, so that is refreshing! The closest to that is if you choose to clear bandits out of a base or fort they have, your people who are outcasts will move in. I found out yesterday how not a pushover they are, as I was level 16 and decided to clear a fort. There were over thirty of them, level 25. LOL! I improvised by setting traps and drawing them into traps inside the fort. As to all the robots, you have to admit defeat or just avoid and run sometimes. Luckily you can usually go far enough they stop following...

...Except for the giant mechanical eagle the size of a house yesterday that kept attacking me and nearly killing me for a mile long sprint when all I wanted to do was be left alone.

23 hours so far and it looks like there is so much I haven't done or seen. I'm about to start playing again.

 

[moproblems99]

Neat! How is it performance wise, smooth or jittery like some reviews say?

I hadn't even noticed it had launched already lol

I was going to buy it until I saw how atrocious it ran on a 2080 and immediately figured my V56 doesn't stand a chance at 1440UW. Since new GPUs aren't out until Cyberpunk time, I guess this will go into the likely won't play bin. On second thought, I'll probably pick it up when TES VI is outed as having PS4 graphics and locked to 60fps or else the time space continuum explodes like FO4.

Well, for me, no issues, but I’m only running it on High at 60 fps. I decided on High not Ultra when I ran the Benchmark on Ultra and it used 22GB of RAM and used 10 GB of VRAM, and still managed to hitch and barely get above 55 fps and went down to 40, and then back up. At high, I still think it looks great and is very smooth. I have had only a few stutters in places, which I attribute to the game having been made for 30 fps.

Yeah, this was my fear.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I decided to add

I was going to buy it until I saw how atrocious it ran on a 2080 and immediately figured my V56 doesn't stand a chance at 1440UW. Since new GPUs aren't out until Cyberpunk time, I guess this will go into the likely won't play bin. On second thought, I'll probably pick it up when TES VI is outed as having PS4 graphics and locked to 60fps or else the time space continuum explodes like FO4.



Yeah, this was my fear.

The think is, I think many of the troubles are people expecting because they have top shelf CPU's and 2080's or above for it to run at max at 100fps or above. It wasn't made to do that. My unscientific assessment of some of the discussions on it are people that have accepted the game's limitations are having a generally good experience mechanically. It will dip occasionally below 60 a few frames, which is that little hitch I mentioned earlier. The game itself is very fun. For me, money well spent.

I'm adding a few screenshots from last night.

Spoiler: Horizon Zero Dawn screenshots

 

[moproblems99]

The think is, I think many of the troubles are people expecting because they have top shelf CPU's and 2080's or above for it to run at max at 100fps or above. It wasn't made to do that. My unscientific assessment of some of the discussions on it are people that have accepted the game's limitations are having a generally good experience mechanically. It will dip occasionally below 60 a few frames, which is that little hitch I mentioned earlier. The game itself is very fun. For me, money well spent.

Well, my concern is that I am two tiers below you with a higher res. RDR2 I am only doing about 50fps on medium and it bugs the shit out of me.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I'm playing it now for the forth time...I think you'll like it.

Wow! I guess you like it! It does feel like something I could play again. Still, nothing beats that first playthrough of a strange new world where you spend part of the time just soaking in all the things the game creators fleshed out for the world. I love that sense of wonder!

Well, my concern is that I am two tiers below you with a higher res. RDR2 I am only doing about 50fps on medium and it bugs the shit out of me.

Yeah, I can see that being a concern, no doubt! You're all set on the CPU front though, as I believe it has a lot going on CPU-wise.

EDIT: I forgot about one feature that is broken right now, mechanically. When you zoom in with a bow, it is supposed to slow time briefly, to allow precise shots (for weak areas on the robots). That doesn’t work right now. So I have made it to level 17 by having to be extremely precise at game speed. Thank goodness for mouse and not controller!

 

[moproblems99]

Yeah, I can see that being a concern, no doubt! You're all set on the CPU front though, as I believe it has a lot going on CPU-wise.

Yeah, really wishing I bought a 2080S a year and a half ago like I planned.

 

[metalfiber]

Wow! I guess you like it! It does feel like something I could play again. Still, nothing beats that first playthrough of a strange new world where you spend part of the time just soaking in all the things the game creators fleshed out for the world. I love that sense of wonder!


Yeah, I can see that being a concern, no doubt! You're all set on the CPU front though, as I believe it has a lot going on CPU-wise.

EDIT: I forgot about one feature that is broken right now, mechanically. When you zoom in with a bow, it is supposed to slow time briefly, to allow precise shots (for weak areas on the robots). That doesn’t work right now. So I have made it to level 17 by having to be extremely precise at game speed. Thank goodness for mouse and not controller!

I go the stealth route and use silent strikes and tripcaster with explosive wire (400dmg). I haven't used the slo-mo and still have no prob with head and eye shots from far away. I use the bow that uses the echo ammo for everything except for fire. I think that's the precise bow... as you might remember, i only use a controller.

 

[moproblems99]

I haven't used the slo-mo and still have no prob with head and eye shots from far away.

(L)Aim Assist for the win!

 

[Vayra86]

Wow! I guess you like it! It does feel like something I could play again. Still, nothing beats that first playthrough of a strange new world where you spend part of the time just soaking in all the things the game creators fleshed out for the world. I love that sense of wonder!


Yeah, I can see that being a concern, no doubt! You're all set on the CPU front though, as I believe it has a lot going on CPU-wise.

EDIT: I forgot about one feature that is broken right now, mechanically. When you zoom in with a bow, it is supposed to slow time briefly, to allow precise shots (for weak areas on the robots). That doesn’t work right now. So I have made it to level 17 by having to be extremely precise at game speed. Thank goodness for mouse and not controller!

Thanks for the insights. Definitely going to sit this one out for now until they optimize it. 22GB stinks of lazy port, I'm not paying any more than budget bin price for that. Doesn't deserve reward. It is optimized not for 60 fps but for 30, because powerful hardware can't even keep it at 60 while the consoles did 30 with a lot less. It means the scenes are scaled to that target and they didn't really take the effort to rebalance that.

And... lots of things going on the CPU side? How? It ran on shitty Jaguar cores. Sorry man, but I think you're a bit too lenient here, and are assuming a lot with no real basis. The game should run on a toaster. We've seen this before. And judging by the screens... it looks good, but I'm also seeing a lot of cheap stuff, like bushes rendered like cardboard props.

None of this says a lot about the game...I'm still totally interested and will totally buy. When they fix the basics Its not always a dev problem either, we've seen Nvidia patches clear the sky as well, I've already been reading a recent update improved things a lot. But 22GB and 10GB VRAM is telling.

 

[Rahnak]

Replaying KOTOR because I can't deal with the extra heat and noise during the summer.

Looks like they didn't have time to finish optimizing HZD for PC and that's a real shame. Covid probably set them back, or so I'd like to think. Death Stranding has a better port and they're both running on the Decima engine so there's no real reason for it not to better than it currently is.

 

[rtwjunkie]

But 22GB and 10GB VRAM is telling.

I haven’t seen that in-game on High settings. So, I can’t say with any certainty it would do that outside of the benchmark. On High, it’s about 12! GB of RAM and 7 to 8 on VRAM. I don’t think it needs all that VRAM, since recommended is a 1060.

If I were to do a proper review, I would have tested many more settings other than what I decided to run with. So, I don’t think I’m being lenient, I just can’t authoritatively say what works for other settings.. I’m just enjoying a fun game that runs well for me on my system at high settings.

 

[Vayra86]

I haven’t seen that in-game on High settings. So, I can’t say with any certainty it would do that outside of the benchmark. On High, it’s about 12! GB of RAM and 7 to 8 on VRAM. I don’t think it needs all that VRAM, since recommended is a 1060.

If I were to do a proper review, I would have tested many more settings other than what I decided to run with. So, I don’t think I’m being lenient, I just can’t authoritatively say what works for other settings.. I’m just enjoying a fun game that runs well for me on my system at high settings.

Smoke > fire

But I'm downloading now for a quick peek anyway. Still triggered

 

[rtwjunkie]

Smoke > fire

But I'm downloading now for a quick peek anyway. Still triggered

I’m lost. I don’t understand what you mean.

 

[Vayra86]

I’m lost. I don’t understand what you mean.

The smoke is your insane RAM usage on the settings you tried and the fire is unstable performance around the 60 FPS marker and having to dial down stuff that you really shouldn't given the GPU horsepower on tap. It echoes what the reviews say. I don't need 4K ultra, but these things generally do translate to lower settings in harder scenes. So that's the smoke>Fire

I shall take a gander at the game. > That's the second bit

 

[rtwjunkie]

The smoke is your insane RAM usage on the settings you tried and the fire is unstable performance around the 60 FPS marker and having to dial down stuff that you really shouldn't given the GPU horsepower on tap. It echoes what the reviews say. I don't need 4K ultra, but these things generally do translate to lower settings in harder scenes. So that's the smoke>Fire

I shall take a gander at the game. > That's the second bit

Oh, ok. Well, I can’t blast a game just because it doesn’t play well for others beyond where I play. Remember, 60 is my normal fps where I play. So for me, it’s working fine. I do recognize that for others though that there are problems, but that never stops me from playing a game, such as this one.

 

[ne6togadno]

The smoke is your insane RAM usage on the settings you tried and the fire is unstable performance around the 60 FPS marker and having to dial down stuff that you really shouldn't given the GPU horsepower on tap. It echoes what the reviews say. I don't need 4K ultra, but these things generally do translate to lower settings in harder scenes. So that's the smoke>Fire

I shall take a gander at the game. > That's the second bit

one of worst explanations i've ever seen

 

[jayseearr]

hw unboxed did a pretty solid hardware/performance review of horizon:

definitely a rather demanding game on the gpu, seeing as it's brand new I'm sure some future optimization will probably make a notable difference. R.i.p to my old vega 56 btw, don't miss that thing one bit

 

[Splinterdog]

Trying to play RDR2 without it crashing is frustrating. Changed from DX12 to Vulkan and it was fine for 30 mins until it froze.
Still, I managed to rob a stagecoach before it crashed, so I'm a few hundred dollars richer!

 

[moproblems99]

Trying to play RDR2 without it crashing is frustrating. Changed from DX12 to Vulkan and it was fine for 30 mins until it froze.
Still, I managed to rob a stagecoach before it crashed, so I'm a few hundred dollars richer!

I haven't had crashes in quite a while. Mostly just world glitches now.

 

[biffzinker]

Trying to play RDR2 without it crashing is frustrating.

Something with the Radeon drivers when using DX12 code patch in RDR2? Is any of your hardware in the Ryzen build overclocked?

 

[Soulwatcher]

I haven't played a game for 3 weeks now, but the last game that I played was FFXIV. I started it the day of release and I have been playing it on and off.

 

[metalfiber]

Hey Junkie, is the slo-mo gauge coming up like in the pic below to the right of the crosshairs. If not you have to zoom then hit the focus button...on a controller anyhow. It's working for me like it did on the PS4. One really needs it on those dang birds.

Long live machine
The future supreme
Man overthrown
Spit out the bone

 

[rtwjunkie]

Hey Junkie, is the slo-mo gauge coming up like in the pic below to the right of the crosshairs. If not you have to zoom then hit the focus button...on a controller anyhow. It's working for me like it did on the PS4. One really needs it on those dang birds.

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Long live machine
The future supreme
Man overthrown
Spit out the bone

I figured it out earlier today with mouse and kb. Most of what you can do in the game is just not even explained in game, so it’s been a big learning curve. Thanks for looking out for me, I appreciate the help!

My favorite parts of the game are when I am in our current day buildings in ruins and underground facilities. IDK why but it’s fascinating. I think because as a kid I alternated between being an anthropologist or an archaeologist for a career. *I did neither...

I’ve finally gotten to the point in one of the main story likes where I found out the reason for the name Zero Dawn.

P.S. No slow-mo or assist on two flocks of “birds” or one of the giant ones as big as a house!! I was almost out of health and first aid, but I got it at game speed.

 

[metalfiber]

My favorite parts of the game are when I am in our current day buildings in ruins and underground facilities. IDK why but it’s fascinating. I think because as a kid I alternated between being an anthropologist or an archaeologist for a career. *I did neither...

P.S. No slow-mo or assist on two flocks of “birds” or one of the giant ones as big as a house!! I was almost out of health and first aid, but I got it at game speed.

See, i knew you could do it without slo-mo. That's the way i meant in my earlier post to have been taken....as encouragement not a peeing contest. Besides i lack the hardware for a peeing contest...i've got the tweezers but no microscope.

Yeah, i bet we've got some things wrong in the department of archaeology...i mean things like keys as chimes and artifacts as such.