What CPU architecture do you use?

[TheinsanegamerN]

Yeah it's fine for 90% of people, but just like in the comparison with NVIDIA/Intel, I find AMD is certainly fast and efficient, but there's drawbacks. People who don't really do much with their systems except game wouldn't notice, most of the time, unless it's a particularly egregrious AGESA bug and they have never updated their BIOS, or something like the USB issues/bad 1% lows.

I'd say the 5800X3D is pretty much the only AMD CPU i'd currently recommend, it's on mature AM4 AGESA with most if not all the bugs finally squashed, it's a mature revision of Zen3 too, so the hardware stuff is all patched and IMC quality etc is pretty solid.

Pretty sure it also had something to do with intel having no competition until alder lake, and even then while alderlake is faster it has to butt-chug wattage to do so.

Zen 4 was a disappointment on that front, although its 65 eco numbers are very promising and I look forward to their mobile parts...

 

[dgianstefani]

Pretty sure it also had something to do with intel having no competition until alder lake, and even then while alderlake is faster it has to butt-chug wattage to do so.

Zen 4 was a disappointment on that front, although its 65 eco numbers are very promising and I look forward to their mobile parts...

Eh, 12/13th gen only uses a lot of wattage when being synthetically stressed on all core loads. In gaming loads it's pretty similar to AMD, sometimes being more efficient, sometimes less, while producing more frames.

 

[SL2]

Eh, 12/13th gen only uses a lot of wattage when being synthetically stressed on all core loads.

Are you sure it's only when synthetically stressed?

 

[Mussels]

2200G/3000G reporting in. Zen 1 is still plenty for me

I'm honestly surprised by the Zen 3 domination. It's saying something.

That 3+ generations of motherboards (They did stagger the launches of X and B series) are universally compatible and Zen3 have cheap options good enough for all but the very fastest GPU in existence?

5600 for $140 and 5700X for $200 have no match at that price points also...

These are AU prices, but yeah - what you said

Not even remotely close, so lets try 12th gen

Okay cool, some of these CPUs are indeed quite cheap

According to TPU, to match a 5600 that 12100 - which with board price differences i agree is actually competitive
But the key here is that a lot of people are using AMD boards they bought years and years ago - I've bought four AM4 boards, and still own 3 of those 4. All four will run a 5600, a 5800x3d or a 5950x if i wanted.

Whereas anyone who bought an intel board in that time has had to toss the whole build to upgrade - so AM4 is going to dominate for several years since $250Au can turn any AM4 board no matter how shite, into something capable of 85% of the performance of an entirely new top-tier PC that could cost thousands for mobo, CPU, RAM and cooling
(at 1080p with a 3080 or faster, any other combo and that gap shrinks even further)

Even with a 3090, why would I upgrade off AM4? Even my AX370 board would let my 5800x3D make my system a chart topper and let me use 2 gen3 NVME drives without any performance loss at all from using an older board

 

[HD64G]

€135 for 5600 and €195 for 5700X today in Greece. At the same time prices for Intel are €165 for 12400 and €265 for 12600KF.

 

[jormungand]

Zen 3, and ill stay right there for a while.

 

[mplayerMuPDF]

Probably just a brain-fart, as there are tons of Coffee Lake designated laptops using mobile processors. While I'd love to consider mine an 'extreme gaming laptop' it's really just a run of the mill BGA box (8750H) with good cooling and an unlocked BIOS. If only the CPU was also unlocked...

Beer Lake; now that's an idea I can get behind!

Apparently there are H-series mobile Coffee Lake CPUs. I knew that Whiskey Lake was ULV Coffee Lake. Poor translation on Intel's part, by the way:
Secure Key Oui

Intel® Software Guard Extensions (Intel® SGX) Yes with Intel® ME

Intel® MPX (Intel® Memory Protection Extensions) Oui
Really Intel? "Oui avec Intel® ME" was too much?

 

[lemoncarbonate]

1700X + AX370 here.
Now that the 5700X has gotten a lot cheaper, should I take this chance to upgrade?

I don't really need the upgrade, but I'm tempted to take this chance because this is the last Ryzen CPU I can upgrade to without new motherboard.

How much of an improvement do you think I will gain from 1700X to 5700X in terms of graphic design productivity and gaming?
I'm using 1080 Ti, 3440x1440 monitor.

 

[pavle]

Core!

 

[Hankieroseman]

Zen4 (7950X) in my main rig.

Coming soon to my be quiet! Project Dark StarBase 900 v2 and an ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E EXTREME, G.Skill DDR5 . My first radiator-ed computer. My sim room is too warm when it's running a 5950X and RTX3090 O24.
An excuse for Grandpa to blow money on building a "hotter" computer.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

1700X + AX370 here.
Now that the 5700X has gotten a lot cheaper, should I take this chance to upgrade?

I don't really need the upgrade, but I'm tempted to take this chance because this is the last Ryzen CPU I can upgrade to without new motherboard.

How much of an improvement do you think I will gain from 1700X to 5700X in terms of graphic design productivity and gaming?
I'm using 1080 Ti, 3440x1440 monitor.

Graphic design? Plenty. Gaming? Probably not a lot at QHD with a 1080 ti, but maybe some, depending on the game. If you use Adobe products though, I would upgrade in a heartbeat. Those LOVE single-core speed, which the 5700X has in spades compared to the 1700X.

 

[lemoncarbonate]

Graphic design? Plenty. Gaming? Probably not a lot at QHD with a 1080 ti, but maybe some, depending on the game. If you use Adobe products though, I would upgrade in a heartbeat. Those LOVE single-core speed, which the 5700X has in spades compared to the 1700X.

Thanks for the advice. I barely play any games right now.. only some. But I'll take your advice to upgrade in terms of productivity.
Hopefully the 5700X works fine with my current motherboard.

 

[Kapone33]

1700X + AX370 here.
Now that the 5700X has gotten a lot cheaper, should I take this chance to upgrade?

I don't really need the upgrade, but I'm tempted to take this chance because this is the last Ryzen CPU I can upgrade to without new motherboard.

How much of an improvement do you think I will gain from 1700X to 5700X in terms of graphic design productivity and gaming?
I'm using 1080 Ti, 3440x1440 monitor.

You will be blown away

 

[27MaD]

Zen+

 

[Creatorbros3]

I have a Ryzen 7 2700. I believe it is technically Zen+. But I voted Zen 1. Looking at upgrading to a Zen 3 (5800X or something...). Primary use is photo and video editing. Some 1440p gaming on the side.

GPU is an MSI GTX 1070 Armor. Need to replace that too.

 

[AlwaysHope]

Multiple generations but no option in that poll.

 

[Belle]

Ryzen 2700 Zen 1+ @3.8 GHz 1.138 V, 4 GHz 1.24 possible

Zen 3 (5800X3D)

I'm actually surprised seeing so many Zen 1 and 2 in the poll.
They can all move to Zen 3 and break the chart.....

I am still using a Zen 1+ CPU which is working fine and officially compatible with Windows 11. It is overclocked and undervolted.
I think Zen 2 is widely used because of high pricing of Zen 3 at release. There was no CPU under 5600X, too. The Ryzen 3600 Zen 2 still was kind of an entry gaming processor.

 

[Mussels]

1700X + AX370 here.
Now that the 5700X has gotten a lot cheaper, should I take this chance to upgrade?

I don't really need the upgrade, but I'm tempted to take this chance because this is the last Ryzen CPU I can upgrade to without new motherboard.

How much of an improvement do you think I will gain from 1700X to 5700X in terms of graphic design productivity and gaming?
I'm using 1080 Ti, 3440x1440 monitor.

yes. Huge, HUGE leap in performance, even with the 1070ti i've got here

It wont make your GPU faster, but your current CPU is definitely holding that GPU back in a lot of modern titles