What to upgrade?

[JrRacinFan]

Even if I would play games with full details on this resolution? Would still HD4850-Crossfire be waste? :S Those cards are cheap when buy as used nowadays, and it would give some performance boost..? You're saying that I should keep this crap mobo and have E6400 with slow clocks? This just won't go any further than 8x344, all tricks tried and FSB won't go any further.. With MSI P6N SLI Platinum, I ran SuperPI 8M and other benchmarks with 3.5GHz clockspeed on this CPU

But you mentioned AII X3... Would that be ok at unlocked? If it doesn't unlock, i suppose it still take some oc easily?

I foresee the only thing the 2nd 4850 would do would be add AA. I will admit in my own personal use going from a 4870 to a gtx460 proved like a night and day experience, at least a good 75% bump in all my games fps and right now I am maxing everything with full AA @ 1600x900 and it looks good.


Even if the X3 doesn't unlock you would still have a good overclocking chip and 3 cores. Also you would be stepping into base clock architecture instead of FSB. It is a touch different.

All in all what I am trying to say is this, step away from s775 if you got the money to do it.

 

[kellottajaFIN]

I foresee the only thing the 2nd 4850 would do would be add AA. I will admit in my own personal use going from a 4870 to a gtx460 proved like a night and day experience, at least a good 75% bump in all my games fps and right now I am maxing everything with full AA @ 1600x900 and it looks good.


Even if the X3 doesn't unlock you would still have a good overclocking chip and 3 cores. Also you would be stepping into base clock architecture instead of FSB. It is a touch different.

All in all what I am trying to say is this, step away from s775 if you got the money to do it.

Hmm. Well, I'd would get an AM2+ mobo (I want to keep these DDR2s ) and Athlon II X3? Wouldn't Phenom II X2 be ok? Well, of course it is sure that cores can be unlocked, but it isn't sure that they work... Athlon would have at least three cores already... What would be a good and cheap mobo with 4x DDR2 slots, CF support and core unlocking possibility? I want to add another HD4850 also, at least I can add a little AA without FPS drop as you said

 

[Josh154]

Hmm.. well idk man i love my q6600. Skt 775 is still the most used skt out there today and since you still want to run ddr2 it makes no sense to go am2+/am3. Honestly i can max out bc2 1920x1080 16xAA and 16xAF in 8800gts sli and a q6600 at 3.6. I can run metro but nothing spectcular.

I love intel over amd, and if you got a p45-ud3p and you could somehow get a q9450, 9550 or 9650 those chips are just as fast as i7's gaming wise.

Their really is no difference between ddr2 and ddr3 gaming wise. Shoot im plenty happy with a 65nm quad and 4gig ddr. I don't need anymore.

4850 crossfire is very good thats why i mentioned a ud3p. You can crossfire in the future so say you sold your current mobo and chip, you could just grab a ud3p and quad right now, then later on when you get a better display that has higher res adding another 4850 is easy. It's not too expensive of a upgrade and you can upgrade when you need it.

A 460 at your res would be overkill IMHO.

It's tough when you got a few guys tellin you what they would do i know how it is i had this problem building my system. My first system was a athlon x3 that unlocked to a phenom quad with a 4850 but i sold that. I made the switch to intel and i didn't want to spend anymore than i did on my amd system and thats why i got a q6600 and i actually paid $25 for my mobo So thats how i could afford 8800gts sli.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Hmm.. well idk man i love my q6600. Skt 775 is still the most used skt out there today and since you still want to run ddr2 it makes no sense to go am2+/am3. Honestly i can max out bc2 1920x1080 16xAA and 16xAF in 8800gts sli and a q6600 at 3.6. I can run metro but nothing spectcular.

I love intel over amd, and if you got a p45-ud3p and you could somehow get a q9450, 9550 or 9650 those chips are just as fast as i7's gaming wise.

Their really is no difference between ddr2 and ddr3 gaming wise. Shoot im plenty happy with a 65nm quad and 4gig ddr. I don't need anymore.

4850 crossfire is very good thats why i mentioned a ud3p. You can crossfire in the future so say you sold your current mobo and chip, you could just grab a ud3p and quad right now, then later on when you get a better display that has higher res adding another 4850 is easy. It's not too expensive of a upgrade and you can upgrade when you need it.

A 460 at your res would be overkill IMHO.

It's tough when you got a few guys tellin you what they would do i know how it is i had this problem building my system. My first system was a athlon x3 that unlocked to a phenom quad with a 4850 but i sold that. I made the switch to intel and i didn't want to spend anymore than i did on my amd system and thats why i got a q6600 and i actually paid $25 for my mobo So thats how i could afford 8800gts sli.

I understand exactly what you're saying! My point is why invest into s775? With it's FSB architecture that's out of date and no longer having new chips coming out. Granted I do like your rig ALOT (Basically my old setup but instead an e5200 @ 4.2Ghz daily)! Also sometimes it's good to overkill just as long as you don't spend an excrutiating amount of funds for it, meaning you know exactly that you're going to be doing another upgrade in the near future that revolves around the current upgrade. I mean there's horribly overdoing it(Intel 980X when you all you do is websurf only) and there's overkill(GTX570 @ 1280x720). Also a 460 would be a touch overdoing it, I agree there but not too too horrible, maybe one of those new 1GB SE's would work out really really well.

 

[Josh154]

I understand exactly what you're saying! My point is why invest into s775? With it's FSB architecture that's out of date and no longer having new chips coming out. Granted I do like your rig ALOT (Basically my old setup but instead an e5200 @ 4.2Ghz daily)! Also sometimes it's good to overkill just as long as you don't spend an excrutiating amount of funds for it, meaning you know exactly that you're going to be doing another upgrade in the near future that revolves around the current upgrade. I mean there's horribly overdoing it(Intel 980X when you all you do is websurf only) and there's overkill(GTX570 @ 1280x720). Also a 460 would be a touch overdoing it, I agree there but not too too horrible, maybe one of those new 1GB SE's would work out really really well.

Yeah true but at lower res isn't it more cpu intensive? I used to run a 4850 at 1600x900 and it was plenty. More and more games are starting to be optimized for quad cores and well i think a quad core would be a good benefit and when he does need more gpu powa just add another 4850!

 

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah true but at lower res isn't it more cpu intensive?

That's incorrect. CPU is just as important at higher resolutions. Just at higher resolutions more work is loaded to the GPU and is more balanced.

 

[Josh154]

Yeah i meant like doesn't a lower res not really use as much gpu power?

EDIT: So say a lower res is less gpu dependent and games are being more optimized for quad cores. At his lower res i think he would notice a larger difference by upgrading to a quad than a different gpu because at his res it doesn't really tax the gpu as much. Now when he plays a intensive game using a quad he will see better results. Therefore when he is playing at a higher res he can easily add another 4850 for crossfire or go all out with a different gpu and not have to worry about any bottlenecking and being much more futerproof.

 

[kellottajaFIN]

Hmm... This machine runs also Crysis Warhead well with gamer preset, effects with enthusiast settings Maybe I just get a better CPU..

 

[Jamborhgini313]

Just save up for a Sandy Bridge next year

 

[kellottajaFIN]

Just save up for a Sandy Bridge next year

Won't need... My HD4850 would be a bad bottleneck. And I don't wan't to change to DDR3 yet because I have ok OC-ddr2's...

 

[Jamborhgini313]

How is a gpu gonna bottleneck a CPU? And it doesn't really matter you have a 17 inch monitor and the 4850 is plenty

 

[kellottajaFIN]

How is a gpu gonna bottleneck a CPU? And it doesn't really matter you have a 17 inch monitor and the 4850 is plenty

I'm saying that Sandy Bridge's speed would be waste in games with this HD4850, if I keep this card then a slower CPU will be enough... C2Q or Phenom II/Athlon II X4 with ddr2...?

 

[ShiBDiB]

PSU -> Monitor -> then GPU/CPU

If you dont take that advice then you shouldnt be on this forum.

 

[Jamborhgini313]

I'm saying that Sandy Bridge's speed would be waste in games with this HD4850, if I keep this card then a slower CPU will be enough... C2Q or Phenom II/Athlon II X4 with ddr2...?

Definately go with phenom 2 but your gonna have to replace your mobo and PSU.

BTW Merry Christmas

 

[silkstone]

I vote Mobo and CPU, but it seems like a waste going for another socket 775. If you got the cash, then go i7 and upgrade your gpu later. The 4850 is still pretty strong at the resolutions you will be playing at.