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you must have done something to trigger this, I just mounted 23H2 with rufus the other day and it didn't download anything in the background
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / ST10000VN0008 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Mouse | Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0 |
Keyboard | HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004) |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
You picked the download option. Rufus will download the ISO from Microsoft servers, I think.
System Name | micropage7 |
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Processor | Intel Xeon X3470 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. P55A-UD3R (Socket 1156) |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T40F |
Memory | Samsung 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA Quadro FX 1800 |
Storage | V-GEN03AS18EU120GB, Seagate 2 x 1TB and Seagate 4TB |
Display(s) | Samsung 21 inch LCD Wide Screen |
Case | Icute Super 18 |
Audio Device(s) | Auzentech X-Fi Forte |
Power Supply | Silverstone 600 Watt |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Sades Excalibur + Taihao keycaps |
Software | Win 7 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | Classified |
really? i think the slow down coz of drivers not from windows itself
Um, maybe you need to re-watch that video..really? i think the slow down coz of drivers not from windows itself
System Name | CyberPowerPC ET8070 |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-10400F |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B460M DS3H AC-Y1 |
Memory | 2 x Crucial Ballistix 8GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super |
Storage | Boot: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE |
Display(s) | Dell P2416D (2560 x 1440) |
Power Supply | EVGA 500W1 |
Software | Windows 11 Home |
System Name | "The black one in the dining room" / "The Latest One" |
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Processor | Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 16c/32t / i7 14700K @5.8GHz |
Motherboard | Asus X99 Deluxe / ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 w/4 Silverstone FM121 fans / Arctic LF II 280 w Silverstone FHP141's |
Memory | 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 2400 (8x8) / 96GB G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6400 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 1080 Ti FTW3 / Asus Tuff OC 4090 24GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus, 1TB Samsung 860, 4 Western Digital 2TB / 1tb, SK hynix P41 Platinum 2tb |
Display(s) | 43" Samsung 8000 series 4K / 50" Vizio M-series 4K |
Case | Modded Corsair Carbide 500R / Modded Corsair Graphite 780 T |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar Essence STX II/ Asus Xonar Essence STX |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1200i / Seasonic Prime GX-1300 |
Mouse | Logitech Performance MX, Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 3.0 |
Keyboard | Logitech K750 Solar, Logitech K800 |
Software | Win 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 IoT / Win 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V11/display.php?id=202122048229 |
That I can tell, nothing extra.How much bloat does 23H2 add?
There is no reason. Carry on!I only use my Win 11 PC's for A/V production so I'm curious if there's any reason for me to put 23H2 on one of them.
System Name | KLM |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | B-650E-E Strix |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling III 280 |
Memory | 16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32 |
Video Card(s) | 4070-ti PNY |
Storage | 512+512+1+2+2+2+2+6+500+256+4+4+4 |
Display(s) | VA 32" 4K@60 - OLED 27" 2K@240 |
Case | 4000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier 1280Ts |
Power Supply | Shift 1000 |
Mouse | 502 Hero |
Keyboard | K68 |
Software | EMDB |
Benchmark Scores | 0>1000 |
How much bloat does 23H2 add?
really? i think the slow down coz of drivers not from windows itself
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
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Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Hi,You picked the download option. Rufus will download the ISO from Microsoft servers, I think.
Yeah decrapifier works again no surprise Wiz's scripts do well to on 10 & 11
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
How much bloat does 23H2 add? I only use my Win 11 PC's for A/V production so I'm curious if there's any reason for me to put 23H2 on one of them.
There is no reason. Carry on!
And? Once again, just because microsoft is not supporting it with feature releases doesn't mean anything. All sub-versions will still be supported with security updates until Windows 11 is retired.Just:
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Windows 11 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle
Windows 11 Home and Pro follows the Modern Lifecycle Policy.learn.microsoft.com
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
All sub-versions will still be supported with security updates until Windows 11 is retired.
No, you missed my point. 22H2 might stop getting feature updates next year, but bug fixes & security updates will continue until Windows 11 is retired as a product. If he doesn't need or want anything but security patches, then they are golden and can continue forward until such time as they want to make a change.In bubbybluz case is that october 8, 2024...
Thats what I meant..
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
Feature updates? No, those stop as soon as a new release drops. I'm pretty sure its a hard end of support listed there.No, you missed my point. 22H2 might stop getting feature updates next year, but bug fixes & security updates will continue until Windows 11 is retired as a product. If he doesn't need or want anything but security patches, then they are golden and can continue forward until such time as they want to make a change.
Nope. Security and bug fixes continue. The RTM version(22k194) of 11 is still getting patches, but it's not getting any feature updates. Recently tested this.Feature updates? No, those stop as soon as a new release drops. I'm pretty sure its a hard end of support listed there.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
I'll admit that's possible, but I'd still love to see some actual Microsoft source stating this one way or another, if anyone has that.Nope. Security and bug fixes continue. The RTM version(22k194) of 11 is still getting patches, but it's not getting any feature updates. Recently tested this.
This is another example of what microsoft says and what they do are two different things.
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
22H2 obviously but 21H2..The RTM version(22k194) of 11 is still getting patches
I think that is why they are vague in the wording of those statements. They are trying to keep everyone up to date to reduce their active field variances but are still actively supporting older point releases due to liability and legal responsibilities. I invite you to test this for yourself. Grab a copy of the 22k194(the final beta which became the RTM) ISO and apply patches using the method of your choice, but avoid the major updates. As long as the major updates are blocked/locked out, the security & bug fixes will still filter through.I'll admit that's possible, but I'd still love to see some actual Microsoft source stating this one way or another, if anyone has that.
Until then it's just rumor and hearsay, albeit from an individual who usually is trustworthy IMO, but still. You know what they say: Question everything lol.
Yup. Tested this due to a client of mine having issues with selective manual updates. Had to do some testing to see if I could replicate the issue and had no problems. It turns out he had disabled a service that was required for the patch he was trying to apply, but not for all patches. He reenabled it, installed and then disabled it again. He is running 22k194 for a specific reason.22H2 obviously but 21H2..
System Name | Ryzen 3 Build |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600x |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Aorus Elite b550 |
Memory | GSkill Ripjaws V (2x16GB) |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Trio 10GB |
Storage | SSD (250GB) + SSD (500GB) + HDD (1TB) |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro PH-ES614P |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold |
Software | Windows 10 64Bit |
No offense but I don't think it is helpful to spread that information. Microsoft could stop applying security fixes to those versions at seemingly any moment, without cause.Nope. Security and bug fixes continue. The RTM version(22k194) of 11 is still getting patches, but it's not getting any feature updates. Recently tested this.
This is another example of what microsoft says and what they do being two different things.
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / ST10000VN0008 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Mouse | Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0 |
Keyboard | HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004) |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
I'll admit that's possible, but I'd still love to see some actual Microsoft source stating this one way or another, if anyone has that.
Until then it's just rumor and hearsay, albeit from an individual who usually is trustworthy IMO, but still. You know what they say: Question everything lol.
No, you missed my point. 22H2 might stop getting feature updates next year, but bug fixes & security updates will continue until Windows 11 is retired as a product. If he doesn't need or want anything but security patches, then they are golden and can continue forward until such time as they want to make a change.
It's not harmful either. Whether or not microsoft does one thing or another is up to them. They will not stop making and distributing patches for older versions of actively supported OSs/software because doing so would leave them open to legal liabilities they can not escape regardless of the terms stated in the EULA. They are obligated to fix and patch ANY security problems found. This is the reason they still provide patches for LONG out of service OSes such as XP, Vista and 7.No offense but I don't think it is helpful to spread that information. Microsoft could stop applying security fixes to those versions at seemingly any moment, without cause.
I'm not going to debate this endlessly. What they're SAYING and what they're DOING are completely different. They also have said, several times, that Windows 7 & 8 install keys would no longer work as "upgrade" and activate properly. Yet it's still happening without fail.Windows 11 21H2 will not get more updates of any kind.
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Windows 11, version 21H2 end of servicing (Home & Pro) - Microsoft Lifecycle
Announcing Windows 11, version 21H2 end of servicing (Home & Pro)learn.microsoft.com![]()
Then why do they still provide patches?Means complete end of support, no security patches or anything.
System Name | Ryzen 3 Build |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600x |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Aorus Elite b550 |
Memory | GSkill Ripjaws V (2x16GB) |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Trio 10GB |
Storage | SSD (250GB) + SSD (500GB) + HDD (1TB) |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro PH-ES614P |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold |
Software | Windows 10 64Bit |
Fair enough I won't yuk your yum, but I still think the official support page is what we should go by. If the OS gets patches outside those support windows, then even better!It's not harmful either. Whether or not microsoft does one thing or another is up to them. They will not stop making and distributing patches for older versions of actively supported OSs/software because doing so would leave them open to legal liabilities they can not escape regardless of the term stated in the EULA. They obligated to fix and patch ANY security problem found. This is the reason they still provide patches for LONG out of service OSes such as XP, Vista and 7.
I'm not going to debate this endlessly. What they're SAYING and what they're DOING are completely different. They also have said, several times, that Windows 7 & 8 install keys would no longer work as "upgrade" and activate properly. Yet it's still happening without fail.
Then why do they still provide patches?
So folks quit citing microsoft statements. They don't mean much as what they say and what they do are VERY different things and this is known fact.
Given the number of times microsoft has made statements and then either not followed through or gone a different direction entirely, the official pages can't be trusted or relied on for informed decision making. This is true for professional as well as the general public.I still think the official support page is what we should go by.