Windows 7 Versions

[trickson]

yes it's a legit official disc I just bought the stupid thing for like 300 dollars yesterday.

@ parelem, can you explain how I boot my computer with a cd? Do I have to hit f10 or something during startup?

OK OK Chill out bro . restart the computer boot from CD then ! Custom install and your done ! Go now do it !

 

[parelem]

yes, you would have to hit whatever key takes you to the boot menu (f10, sometimes esc), or select your dvd drive as first boot in BIOS.

 

[trickson]

yes, you would have to hit whatever key takes you to the boot menu (f10, sometimes esc), or select your dvd drive as first boot in BIOS.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

Alright, thanks. I'll do that now.

 

[trickson]

Alright, thanks. I'll do that now.

Come on hurry up man ..

 

[qubit]

@MLG It's not possible to upgrade from a 32-bit version to a 64-bit version or vice versa, because the program code is inherently different.

You need to format the disc (option available from within the install program) and start over with a clean install - remembering to back up your data first...

Anyway, one should never do an upgrade install, because it leads to instability, poor performance and a bloated install. Why Microsoft leave that option in there beats me. Anyone that has experience of installing Windows will tell you this. I always do a clean install.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

I'm up and running, but I'm experiencing system skipping. Every second the system (sound, mouse, animations, EVERYTHING.) skips.

It's realy fucking annoying. Why is this happening?

 

[TechnicalFreak]

I'm up and running, but I'm experiencing system skipping. Every second the system (sound, mouse, animations, EVERYTHING.) skips.

It's realy fucking annoying. Why is this happening?

Latest drivers perhaps needs to be installed?

 

[_Zod_]

Random lockups are probably driver related but can also be software related.

Get drivers for your hardware from the manufactures websites, DO NOT allow Windows 7 to update drivers via automatic updates. IF there are no drivers for Win 7 x64 you can usually get away with Vista x64 drivers and or server 2008 drivers.

If after driver updates it is still freezing, remove all 3rd party programs that run in the background and see if that stops the freezing. If it does, re-install them 1 at a time to drill down to the offending software.

Good luck.

 

[newtekie1]

I wouldn't recommend Home Premium, I'd go with Professional. Why? Serveral reasons:

The biggest reason is Home Premium only allows 16GB of RAM. The point of moving to 64-bit is to remove the RAM limitation, so why limit yourself to 16GB of RAM? And before anyone says 16GB of RAM will always be enough, the same argument was made about 4GB of RAM with XP. The difference is that we are already seeing desktop rigs with more than 16GB of RAM, while we did not have desktop rigs with 4GB of RAM when XP came out. Right now, you might not be loosing performance by going with Home Premium, however in the future you might, so I would avoid it.

The other nice features of Professional really are just the icing on the cake that make it worth the extra $40 over Home Premium(IMO, the RAM issue alone make it worth the $40 as I plan to keep Win7 for a good long time.)

What?! you say.

I'm talking about getting a TechNet subscription instead. It's a no brainer, dude.

Basically, for the price of a copy of Windows, you get thousands of pounds of extra software. For example, 10 keys for every version of 7, Vista & XP. You also get to download the latest office and the latest server OS. All this lot is worth thousands! You simply download the software you want and burn it to disc. Simple.

Go to www.technet.com

There's even a forum thread on it right here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=100225

Make sure you use a coupon code to get money off and make it even better value.

Man, Microsoft should pay me for doing their marketing for them...

Not entirely...

Yes, for essentially the price of a retail copy of Windows you can sign up for Technet. Ok, the problem? You have to keep paying that every year to keep the software legal. The moment you let the subscription expire you are supposed to uninstall any software that you obtained through the Technet program.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

I formatted my drive.

reinstalled it, again.


It's still doing it.

Is it a hardware issue? Why is it doing it ONLY with Windows 7 and not with XP or vista?

 

[MLG The Canadian]

There is a process running ".net optimization service" and it's taking 25 cpu, constantly running, what is this? can I delete the .exe so it doesn't run?

I installed my ATI drivers off the website... doesn't seem to be skipping constantly...


I'll report back.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

I don't know what to do. I've formatted my main drive and installed Windows 7 on it.
My system is skipping constantly, It's coming and going, this is a disaster. Taking it to a repair shop.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

Okay, so I disabled the wireless and am connected through an ethernet cable, I thought to myself, what is used every now and then that would effect my performance? internet perhaps?

so far so good, I'm listening to you tube videos because it will skip the audio/video.

I tried getting the drivers for my wireless card (Linksys WMP600N Wireless-N PCI Adapter witH Duel-Band) but it just gave me some loose files, no applications or exe.. so maybe its my wireless card/drivers doing it?

 

[qubit]

Not entirely...

Yes, for essentially the price of a retail copy of Windows you can sign up for Technet. Ok, the problem? You have to keep paying that every year to keep the software legal. The moment you let the subscription expire you are supposed to uninstall any software that you obtained through the Technet program.

I'm pretty sure you can use the products forever. I've looked at the TechNet agreement and FAQ and another FAQ, neither of which forbid it. If anything, the FAQ is more helpful in saying that once your sub has expired, you can access product keys already claimed, but not any downloads.

The MSDN software use rights page however, does limit you to the subscription period for certain volume licenced products.

If you've seen where it limits you to the subscription period, I'd be very keen to see that, so I can make an informed decision when it comes to renew, which is quite soon now.

EDIT:

The first point of the FAQ says this:

What is Microsoft® TechNet Subscriptions?
TechNet Subscriptions is a subscription program designed to help IT Professionals prepare for critical issues and plan for future deployments by providing them with fast and convenient access to the latest software for evaluation without time or feature limits

So yes, you can use it after the sub has expired. You just can't get any extra keys or download any more software.

 

[newtekie1]

Okay, so I disabled the wireless and am connected through an ethernet cable, I thought to myself, what is used every now and then that would effect my performance? internet perhaps?

so far so good, I'm listening to you tube videos because it will skip the audio/video.

I tried getting the drivers for my wireless card (Linksys WMP600N Wireless-N PCI Adapter witH Duel-Band) but it just gave me some loose files, no applications or exe.. so maybe its my wireless card/drivers doing it?

You have to do a manual update through device manager.

I'm pretty sure you can use the products forever. I've looked at the TechNet agreement and FAQ and another FAQ, neither of which forbid it. If anything, the FAQ is more helpful in saying that once your sub has expired, you can access product keys already claimed, but not any downloads.

The MSDN software use rights page however, does limit you to the subscription period for certain volume licenced products.

If you've seen where it limits you to the subscription period, I'd be very keen to see that, so I can make an informed decision when it comes to renew, which is quite soon now.

EDIT:

The first point of the FAQ says this:



So yes, you can use it after the sub has expired. You just can't get any extra keys or download any more software.

Call them up and ask, the keys and licenses expire when your subscription expires.

 

[qubit]

Call them up and ask, the keys and licenses expire when your subscription expires.

I might just do that - but I'll bet you a techie's honour that you're wrong. Those links I showed you are direct from Microsoft; the horse's mouth, as it were.

So anyway, you've seen where I've got my info and the proof is in that statement of no time or usage limits. Were did you get yours to prove your assertion? You'll have to do better than a one-liner, NT.

 

[newtekie1]

I might just do that - but I'll bet you a techie's honour that you're wrong. Those links I showed you are direct from Microsoft; the horse's mouth, as it were.

So anyway, you've seen where I've got my info and the proof is in that statement of no time or usage limits. Were did you get yours to prove your assertion? You'll have to do better than a one-liner, NT.

I called them and asked them...

 

[Cold Storm]

Due with the factor of having HIGH amounts of Fraud Transactions, Microsoft have changed Technet in a lot of ways. From what the guy told me Tuesday, and Friday... No matter what, if the subscription laps, the stuff won't work. Reason by it.. To many people going and buying their subscription then selling keys.. Their now doing semi background checks on everyone that they process that don't have a tax exempt status. I have to call them back Tomorrow to see if my account is active.

 

[qubit]

I called them and asked them...

I'll check tomorrow, when they're open. If what you say and Cold Storm are correct, then what Microsoft say on the phone directly contradicts their claim on their website that the software will keep working.

This will significantly affect someone's decision to buy their sub and is tantamount to a fraudulent sale.

As we've drifted off-topic for this thread, I'll reply to you in the TechNet thread and point you to it. Same if you want to reply to me, please do so here.

 

[newtekie1]

I'll check tomorrow, when they're open. If what you say and Cold Storm are correct, then what Microsoft say on the phone directly contradicts their claim on their website that the software will keep working.

This will significantly affect someone's decision to buy their sub and is tantamount to a fraudulent sale.

As we've drifted off-topic for this thread, I'll reply to you in the TechNet thread and point you to it. Same if you want to reply to me, please do so here.

No, your assumption that "without time or feature limits" means you don't have to keep the subscription active is just false. That line does not state or even imply that the keys will work after the subscription expires. It would be more accurate if they added "as long as you keep paying the subscription fee" to the end of it though just to clearify. When they say "without time or feature limits" they mean the software isn't a demo version like the demo versions of Office that are available, or the 120 Day limit you get to try Windows Vista/7. The limitted features they refer to are saying that the software won't go into reduced functionality mode that Windows goes into once the trial period is over.

 

[qubit]

No, your assumption that "without time or feature limits" means you don't have to keep the subscription active is just false. That line does not state or even imply that the keys will work after the subscription expires. It would be more accurate if they added "as long as you keep paying the subscription fee" to the end of it. When they say "without time or feature limits" they mean the software isn't a demo version like the demo versions of Office that are available, or the 120 Day limit you get to try Windows Vista/7. The limitted features they refer to are saying that the software won't go into reduced functionality mode that Windows goes into once the trial period is over.

I'm not making an assumption, it's in black and white. Time limited would be if it dies when the sub expires or some other time limitation. Their current phrasing means you can use it forever, just like you bought it from a shop. You're damn right that they would have to state the "as long as the sub continues" bit if it were so, or it's flat out fraud.

Look, I'll phone them up tomorrow and see what they say and get back to you. Can't be fairer than that, can I?

And really, please reply in the other thread, out of respect for the OP.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

It's alright, no worries about off-topicness.

I fixed the skipping or stuttering. It was my wireless drivers, I tried updating manually through the device manager but it just told me that It already had found the up-to-date update.. unless you mean update it from a CD in which case I don't think I can find... but I could burn the loose files that Cisco gave me off the website onto a disc... not sure. I don't need wireless where I am anyway, but I do need to fix it for the fall.

 

[newtekie1]

Try checking what version drivers are already installed, it is very likely that Windows 7 already found and installed the latest drivers through Windows Update, so it might be correct in saying the the drivers are already up to date.

In that case, it might be time to search for a new wireless card. I used to like Linksys, but over the past few years their driver department has really started to let them down.

 

[qubit]

It's alright, no worries about off-topicness.

Cool. Thankyou. I hate messing up someone's thread.

Anyway, to answer Newtekie1: I just called Microsoft customer services and it's most certainly not what you've said. For a TechNet Pro sub, which is what we're talking about, the facts are just as I said initially and match the agreement and FAQ posted online by Microsoft:

- The software you have will work forever, with no time or usage limits
- Any keys you've claimed can be activated at any time, even a first activation after the TechNet sub has expired
- You cannot download any software after expiry
- You cannot claim any new keys after expiry
- Any keys which you have previously claimed, can still be viewed and downloaded, but you can't claim any new ones, so claim all of them before it expires. There's hundreds and I had a tired finger clicking that mouse at the end of it, lol
- There's only a time restriction on certain volume licenced products, which aren't available on a Pro sub anyway

Therefore, you obviously can't have any newly released software after the sub has lapsed; fair enough.

I live in the UK and called the number on this Contact TechNet Customer Service web page, that lists all the customer service numbers around the world. Anyone that disagrees with me is welcome to call them and confirm that what I'm saying is right. For Microsoft to suddenly say over the phone that it's time limited, but mention nothing on the website would be fraud, just as I said.

I think you need to make a second call, NT, someone badly misinformed you the last time, buddy.

So MLG, for future reference, if you want to get Microsoft's latest hot product, Windows 8 or whatever, get that sub, I promise you won't regret it my friend. It really is the no-brainer I described above.