Worth flashing stable overclock bios?

[Vendor]

so for a couple of months i am using a decent overvolt oc on my 750 ti, it seems completely stable in all games though i haven't tried stress test because i don't like putting unnecessary load on my cpu and i feel it should be fine for most part. This is not my own made up overclock, i found this on an old reddit post through google search, i also have a decently aggressive fan curve which helps my gpu never go above 70c even in summers without ac. Yesterday i posted on reddit about my ram and gpu overclock, there was this guy who had decent oc on his 750 flashed and i asked him about my concern but he didn't reply.

 

[elghinnarisa]

Worth? I mean how much of a value is there in doing it? What do you gain, what do you lose?
Is it worth the time investment to tinker up your own BIOS to flash those settings or not? For some yes, for some no. I normally don't. I normally use MSI Afterburner myself for OC, and I also use it for its OSD capabilities, so in my case it would make no difference, I would be running it either way. So I don't see myself putting any time in to flashing a overclocked BIOS to any of my cards since I have no reason too. It would also perhaps mean I may have to flash it again in the future if for some reason it turns out to not be as stable as one would like in the long run.

But it can be fun to try if you have never done it before.

Also, "feel" it should be fine, doesn't equate to it being fine. I have no issue stressing any of my hardware because I know the way I use my computer, it will reach those use-cases sooner or later either way. And if it cant hold up with me pushing it a bit now, it surly will not when I need it to.

 

[Vendor]

Worth? I mean how much of a value is there in doing it? What do you gain, what do you lose?
Is it worth the time investment to tinker up your own BIOS to flash those settings or not? For some yes, for some no. I normally don't. I normally use MSI Afterburner myself for OC, and I also use it for its OSD capabilities, so in my case it would make no difference, I would be running it either way. So I don't see myself putting any time in to flashing a overclocked BIOS to any of my cards since I have no reason too. It would also perhaps mean I may have to flash it again in the future if for some reason it turns out to not be as stable as one would like in the long run.

But it can be fun to try if you have never done it before.

Also, "feel" it should be fine, doesn't equate to it being fine. I have no issue stressing any of my hardware because I know the way I use my computer, it will reach those use-cases sooner or later either way. And if it cant hold up with me pushing it a bit now, it surly will not when I need it to.

ok thanks, i have decided not to flash bios to be safe and just keep afterburner running in background, i do backup my profile before doing a clean install wonder if i should have a 2nd copy of it.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Basically there are a lot of variables....

same brand? same P/N? same revision? --- Even though they might be the same brand and have the same P/N, the memory could have been changed based on what parts are avilable on the market. They might run low on Samsung chips so switch to SK Hynix or Micron Chips which dont perform the same and flashing his bios might make your card unstable or even brick it.


Then we get to the silicon. If you are both pushing roughly the same clocks then you might be ok. but if his clocks are higher then yours then its best you test your card at his clocks with afterburner before flashing it over.

with any GPU bios flash, you run the risk of messing up your card so back up your original bios and make sure you have a spare GPu handy incase you brick the card or are familiar with blind flashing.

I cant recommend it but youre free to try. Just dont get mad if your card gets messed up.

 

[Vendor]

Basically there are a lot of variables....

same brand? same P/N? same revision? --- Even though they might be the same brand and have the same P/N, the memory could have been changed based on what parts are avilable on the market. They might run low on Samsung chips so switch to SK Hynix or Micron Chips which dont perform the same and flashing his bios might make your card unstable or even brick it.


Then we get to the silicon. If you are both pushing roughly the same clocks then you might be ok. but if his clocks are higher then yours then its best you test your card at his clocks with afterburner before flashing it over.

with any GPU bios flash, you run the risk of messing up your card so back up your original bios and make sure you have a spare GPu handy incase you brick the card or are familiar with blind flashing.

I cant recommend it but youre free to try. Just dont get mad if your card gets messed up.

yeah, my 750 ti originally came with samsung memory but my broke it and then after replacement i got the one with hynix memory but still my overclock seems decent and i don't think it would have made much of difference, you know samsung 8nm euv is terrible on ampere cards so we just can't go by brand.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Dont do it, the risk of bricking your hardware CAN happen, and its sucks so bad when it does, you seems perfectly happy with your 750ti performance dont lose it all for just few percentage

Especially during a GPU shortage, you WOUNT find any decent deal on a new GPU even old ones are being sold above MSRP yeeeaaars after they launched, so be smart about things.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

yeah, my 750 ti originally came with samsung memory but my broke it and then after replacement i got the one with hynix memory but still my overclock seems decent and i don't think it would have made much of difference, you know samsung 8nm euv is terrible on ampere cards so we just can't go by brand.

Its not just about memory speeds but also ram timings.

 

[qubit]

Flashing the bios is asking for trouble. Just set it with a utility and be done with it.

 

[Vendor]

Its not just about memory speeds but also ram timings.

vram also has timing? never heard of that

 

[Deleted member 205776]

vram also has timing? never heard of that

VRAM isn't any different from regular RAM. GDDR is just DDR but with insane bandwidth to accomodate GPUs. However, this comes at a cost of very loose timings. Here's an example:

GPUs just want raw super fast bandwidth for obvious reasons. Timings, while they do matter, they don't matter as much as on regular DDR.

 

[Vendor]

VRAM isn't any different from regular RAM. GDDR is just DDR but with insane bandwidth to accomodate GPUs. However, this comes at a cost of very loose timings. Here's an example:

GPUs just want raw super fast bandwidth for obvious reasons. Timings, while they do matter, they don't matter as much as on regular DDR.

wow, those seem more complex than normal ram but i don't think it makes a whole lot of difference because i never came across anything which says Samsung GDDR5 is faster than Hynix or Micron

 

[Caring1]

wow, those seem more complex than normal ram but i don't think it makes a whole lot of difference because i never came across anything which says Samsung GDDR5 is faster than Hynix or Micron

Because it's not.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

wow, those seem more complex than normal ram but i don't think it makes a whole lot of difference because i never came across anything which says Samsung GDDR5 is faster than Hynix or Micron

It honestly depends on the card. For example I had a MSI 1070 Gaming X with Samsung ram and these would easily do over +700 (even close to or over +800 on some cards) on the ram in afterburner. Well, MSI didnt tell anyone and quietly swapped the Samsung memory with Micron or Hynix that didnt OC so well. People were buying these new 1070s then struggling to get even half of what others did with the samsung ram. Thats how the memory swap was discovered.

MSI had an issue where they were releasing 1070s from their factory that were running Micron/Hynix ram but still had the Samsung bios loaded on to them and this caused some instability issues with the newer ram swapped cards. MSI fixed this with a bios update.

As for Desktop Ram -- Samsung has been known to have miracle B-Die ram that is mainly sold to OEM builders and placed in things like servers and office PCs that are 1333 or 1600mhz but OC like absolute mad. Hynix, Micron havent been able to touch that kind of performance when it comes to overclockability.

There were a few members here that had some of that ram and created threads about them. Gotta see if i can dig them up.

 

[Vendor]

It honestly depends on the card. For example I had a MSI 1070 Gaming X with Samsung ram and these would easily do over +700 (even close to or over +800 on some cards) on the ram in afterburner. Well, MSI didnt tell anyone and quietly swapped the Samsung memory with Micron or Hynix that didnt OC so well. People were buying these new 1070s then struggling to get even half of what others did with the samsung ram. Thats how the memory swap was discovered.

MSI had an issue were they were releasing 1070s from their factory that were running Micron/Hynix ram but still had the Samsung bios loaded on to them and this caused some instability issues with the card. MSI fixed this with a bios update for the newer cards.

As for Desktop Ram -- Samsung has been known to have miracle B-Die ram that is mainly sold to OEM builders and placed in things like servers and office PCs that are 1600mhz but OC like absolute mad. Hynix, Micron havent been able to touch that kind of performance when it comes to overclockability.

There were a few members here that had some of that ram and created threads about them. Gotta see if i can dig them up.

i still wish my card didn't fail and i still had that samsung memory

 

[FreedomEclipse]

i still wish my card didn't fail and i still had that samsung memory

Even if you did. there is no guarantee that yours would be able to OC as high. At the end of the day everything is still governed by the laws of RNGesus.

Meaning you could of had the samsung card but still not been able to OC worth a damn. Its all luck of the draw

 

[Hardcore Games]

The GTX 750 Ti is not going to get anywhere with overclocking. Go find a more powerful card if you can. I realize however the shortage of video cards has been a problem.

 

[Vendor]

The GTX 750 Ti is not going to get anywhere with overclocking. Go find a more powerful card if you can. I realize however the shortage of video cards has been a problem.

yeah, shortage is really annoying and well i have got decent 5-8fps boost in games with my current oc so it's not that bad, i was looking to buy a 1060 3gb but guy is weird settled selling it yesterday despite saying to me that he's busy and will talk on monday. Hoping Brian from Tech Yes City is right and we could see more stock and a decent price decrease in upcoming months.