X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[dalekdukesboy]

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Hey hey easy. I wasn't throwing a grenade about the stress testing just an observation. We differ in opinion, yet we agree mostly btw; I agree these are NO way real life tests, however that being said is why I like them, I pass these I know all the regular stuff I do is a cakewalk. And yes, these tests are so strenuous they fail literally in seconds often so I don't waste minutes or even hours with tests that take longer to find fault in my settings. THAT is why I like them, and many others do, and many don't like you so I'd not say either of us are "unrealistic", my opinion. We simply have a different take on them. Anyway that's just a distraction here lol, this is about my system and other x79 or other systems people want to post about...and I have not only picture of system but this glorious shot

 

[Kanan]

Naaahh I mean picture of the system in real, I don't care much about cpuz etc. pics atm. Want to see how it looks now with water cooling and new gpu installed.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

See...me I'm like whoopie do what it looks like, I'm all about "how does it perform/cool/work?". From the side of case you can hardly tell difference with GPU other than you see bit of black/white if you look close enough vs. red/black, and the watercooling as I said not even technically installed, only just sitting there to run system still haven't worked out best way to attach it, but even in this huge case it's not an easy feat to put that huge Rad in case and not hit something however you place it...so far back of case above GPU is only place that looks like I can and probably will do it, I'd do it outside case but tubing is short so really doesn't reach far enough to do that. I edited above post see for pics at any rate. Also, how can you not love 4.8 ghz stable 6 cores/12 threads? Come on...lol.

Also that new fan on top which is white vs old black Antec fan despite higher cfm rating I am not inclined to believe it yet not feeling like it moves a ton of air, but I'll investigate that make sure it's rotating full speed etc.

 

[Kanan]

Well I forgot that it's not installed in the case yet , nvm I can wait.

I like 4.8ghz but only with low voltages I don't like high voltages that shrink lifetime of hardware parts (yes generally) and also skyrocket power consumption for a few mhz more. That's why I use 4.5 with lower voltages than advertised. Generally I'd even use it stock (3.9 ghz) with even lower voltages but cpu is a bit old now and oc is needed I guess.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Well I forgot that it's not installed in the case yet , nvm I can wait.

I like 4.8ghz but only with low voltages I don't like high voltages that shrink lifetime of hardware parts (yes generally) and also skyrocket power consumption for a few mhz more. That's why I use 4.5 with lower voltages than advertised.

Lol you must be a female in disguise, fickle and go from I want now to nvm I can wait. Kidding, anyway it's mostly cool just because I CAN do it and with doing it with OK timings and the memory at 2400 mhz, so yeah just great how much higher I have it clocked...and it's running considerably cooler lol. So yeah I won't run it every day with 4.8 ghz but still a first and great result...And that is first time I ever got this thing to post at 5.0 ghz. So like when you did it with yours it's just an accomplishment and nice I can finally let this thing stretch its' legs a bit. Anyway so far so good, yeah 6 cores on x79 you aren't getting anything resembling low voltages once you go over 4.5 ghz, just too power hungry a platform to pull that off. So yeah for the moment this is all just for testing and seeing what it can do, not for permanent settings. I will continue to see what it can do and once I get best combination of things I will benchmark it.

Also see above post you can see the ghetto picture of the open case, minus the RAD being installed everything else is as it should be, fairly happy with it so far I think it'll be a clean install with decent cable management...till I updated the board it was a horrendous mess, I did much better after that and now with watercooling I can do even more to get it so yeah, maybe you might WANT to look at it after it's done lol.

 

[Kanan]

It's not that I don't like it its more like it's boring, I would've liked to see 5 ghz or even more but my cooler is too weak for that, now, if you can pull that off that would be really nice, at least you have the right equipment for it.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah you definitely get "bored" and "excited" at different elements of a CPU than I do, but like everything even within the same hobby/interest peoples' preferences and personalities are so different this just reminds me of that and admittedly is kind of fascinating to me in and of itself. At any rate, I already am looking up settings etc at 5.0 ghz lol. I've seen them before but mostly when I first got the platform this is first time I have a prayer of doing it at all, and maybe even getting it stable'ish. Every time I got to 5.0ghz it crashed after a while so definitely wasn't anywhere near stable yet just enough to get screenshot and few minutes of windows functioning. Anyway more to come, only regret I have now is I didn't switch to water several platforms ago.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah too bad your cpu isn't like mine, I bet I could do a easy 5ghz+ with your cooler on my cpu. I really won the Lottery this time. so whatever.. good luck then!

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah, not complaining on my lottery numbers, just not sure how far this thing wants to go...also I may get better stability with high OC using 1800 or even 1600 for my memory and taking stress off the memory controller...so far 2400 mhz is what I used for 4.8 and 5.0...

 

[Kanan]

Yes first use standard ram settings try achieve highest oc possible then again oc the ram as far as possible. That's the way to go...

Then make pic for me to enjoy

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah I tried 5.1 ghz and motherboard boots and starts well and quickly and cpu is fine but freezes on Windows startup...That was kind of like a basketball player having a "heat check" when he tosses up a shot that is high in difficulty but he's in a rhythm so it's worth a shot lol. I definitely have to work on settings this is uncharted area so I really am not sure what it wants at that level to be relatively happy and at least benchmark stable...more to come.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Update, I fiddled around with the connection of pump to CPU and didn't have it tight or centered as well as I think could be, so getting a couple more degrees of cooling now! Also 5.1 ghz booted into windows, just not long enough where I have like several programs all boot with windows so wasn't long enough for suicide shot. Definitely got more in the tank here if I figure out how to use it, also much of my issue now is getting a couple fans back in case and over vram area, at 5.0 ghz + I think that is where a lot of my instability is CPU is relatively cool but the board is not. Anyway this upgrade is very cool and definitely would recommend anyone get a high end water AIO for they work quite well I'm very impressed.

 

[Ungari]

Do you get your water cooling knowledge from Morbius?

 

[Kanan]

Update, I fiddled around with the connection of pump to CPU and didn't have it tight or centered as well as I think could be, so getting a couple more degrees of cooling now! Also 5.1 ghz booted into windows, just not long enough where I have like several programs all boot with windows so wasn't long enough for suicide shot. Definitely got more in the tank here if I figure out how to use it, also much of my issue now is getting a couple fans back in case and over vram area, at 5.0 ghz + I think that is where a lot of my instability is CPU is relatively cool but the board is not. Anyway this upgrade is very cool and definitely would recommend anyone get a high end water AIO for they work quite well I'm very impressed.

I'd be happy with 5 GHz, but 5.1 GHz would be great. The problem could be that 2nd core again, temps too high.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Do you get your water cooling knowledge from Morbius?

I have that DVD ready to be watched but...
Umm...no.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I'd be happy with 5 GHz, but 5.1 GHz would be great. The problem could be that 2nd core again, temps too high.

Nope, problem is simply getting cpu to boot happily into windows. I am ticked I had a quick 1 gig run of burntest at 5.0ghz and I got it to pass I forgot to save it though because it's not in the folder. 5.1 is obviously just for the screenie and to say I did it. 5.0 ghz well, may be a chance with tinkering I could get that stable.

When I get into windows with 5.0 ghz even that one core shows minimum temp it is capable of showing like 63 degrees or so, spikes a few degrees when cpu is doing something but at least to boot into windows temps are not a problem whatsoever.

 

[Kanan]

Just saw the pic of your experiment, looks good. Well yeah do that 5ghz I'll be glad to see it.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Hardly my experiment...anyway now I'm passing burntest but gflops are wildly inconsistent, I first noticed it happen when I did a quick 1 meg test @ 5 gigahertz just thought it was due to speed and instability etc even though it actually passed. However now no matter what I set the memory at 1866 and cpu at like down to 4.5 ghz it's still giving me numbers say from 90 -115 or some bullshit like that. Sigh. I looked back at every test I've saved and every one they vary by 1 or 2 at most say 90-91.5 all tight clusters of numbers just slight variations. Might have done it earlier before that quick run @ 5 ghertz but not sure that's when it first was obvious to me. I had to do a quick system restore due to failed boots to get windows working as it was (was taking a while to boot etc) but it was still working. So no idea what this is all about. Only quick thing I'm considering doing is plopping that retail 3930k I got here that came with new board and seeing if the cpu is to blame. It does have one contact that is bad and it's been in constant use/abuse since mid 2012...OR windows and/or burntest app is busted. Always something, like that other guy that posted here who pushed his hardware was saying he was always breaking things, this whole setup seems like that for me, before this I think never had a component fail minus a fan or small stuff. Anyway I'll see what

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Just redownloaded burntest and used old one I already had, was same version anyway, and was more inline to what I expected. However I also put the RAD in the case and I have a fan over the VRM area but not sure how much it really helps. But anyway did that as well as reseat cpu just on the off chance by putting on the new cooler something wasn't on quite right etc. Anyway still will have to crank memory back up and try it how I want to use it, I just tested it with memory at 1866 just to see if that made a difference, when I made last post I did the same before I reseated cpu and put RAD in case etc and it made no difference so yeah, no idea what that was all about. Play around with it more tomorrow.

Just ran a quick test after in bios cranking up all the fans etc and fooling with options I hadn't looked at in a while, odd thing is the VRM that always was so warm including last night even after I had downclocked ram is literally almost cold to the touch even after a quick run of burntest...LOL. Weird, granted I put one of my new fans over that area but I did that last night and the heatsink I touched felt hot last night, now it is cool go figure. This is one of those moments we spoke of earlier in the thread you realize how complex this thing you're monkeying with is and how much happens you simply don't really "get".

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Ok, good news on the GPU front, I didn't post earlier but before I went out and put my storm windows on my house I attempted to flash bios on my GPU...didn't work out so well. It did post to windows but then it just blue screened with a NV code so it was obvious the card failing and I even used same bios as I had I just modded it to try and change upper limits of power etc...However all ended well and even better I went to techpowerup here and looked up bios for the msi gaming 980 ti...used that worked like a charm! So I think it has a higher power limit now and it has a higher clock to start with plus it actually works lol. So I'm playing around with it now to see what it will do but 1500 mhz seems no go least in furmark so I'm going to see how it clocks in game when I overclock it and such. Cooler btw seems quite good, not sure why others' I saw on sites complained and said it stunk etc, even using furmark for few minutes and using 70% fans and heavily overclocked the thing doesn't even get to 70 degrees. So in game and normal usage I will keep it well into the 60's which is truthfully way better than I expected...I still should put other cooler on and try it out just this one seems so good seems no need to even bother.

 

[Kanan]

The backplate is way more important. Glad though you bios modded it to 980 ti Gaming 6G.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yep, thought I had bricked it at first, was odd...I simply modded the bios it had by changing values of power limits and admittedly couple things I wasn't real sure about. I think I tried changing power limit but in doing so changed some values of the cards' behavior in how it clocked itself depending on temps/3d vs 2d etc and I changed a value that allowed it to boot into windows but value must have been wrong enough so it caused BSOD the minute the driver tried to tell it to switch to whatever set of clocks it was trying to get. Anyway was able to fix that and got a properly flashed bios. Backplate yes is making me nervous...however I have the cpu cooling in back of case and should be good. Cooler on the card I found out isn't so great after all. It is ok. But with overclocking and gaming like Skyrim just now given time even with fans set to 70% it edges into the 70's so cooler is adequate even for some overclocking but not overly impressive. I have the other cooler right here, however I have an even better idea. I have the gtx480 I have and it has a 3 fan monster cooler on it an arctic cooling accelero extreme I believe its' called. Biggest air cooler I think I've ever seen on a card if the mounting hardware is usable I'll strap that on this card and should keep it super cool.

 

[Kanan]

Well I wouldn't touch it because the gaming 6g cooler should be more than enough, the 480 needs it more.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Not anymore. had to remove one plate on the ti that was in the way of how the cooler fit but it's done! Cooler is shifted bit further away from where the DVI connections of card is so card is even longer than it would be with cooler so it barely fit in case, but I just had to work around the wires. Heck if I want to I can be silly and put msi gamer cooler on 480 and I'm sure it'll work. 480 is one of several cards I have for backups so no loss having such a great cooler on it, more of a waste really. Anyway needed to hacksaw the stems the screws go into on the cooler too because were slightly long for new card but otherwise just slapped it on and works great. I only wish the backplate on the 480 would fit on new card but it's much narrower of a GPU so no prayer without serious ghetto mods and it wouldn't even cover all of card. Anyway I will get some pics of case soon so you can see the monstrosity as it is lol.

 

[Kanan]

If you have the Arctic cooler why you don't have the included or at least optional backplate as well?

I don't see much use in it I like the gaming6G cooler more way higher quality bigger fans better style. I don't think the 980ti needs the over the top cooler of the Arctic but whatever your choice.