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I scored another used Asus X79 Sabertooth this morning. Does anybody have the fan that goes in the housing over the USB ports?
 
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I scored another used Asus X79 Sabertooth this morning. Does anybody have the fan that goes in the housing over the USB ports?
Its optional anyway. Well I keep it since I have my sabretooth running bench style so yeah. no airflow there.
 
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Isn't that just a standard 40mm fan with 3-pin header ?
 
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I got a new 35mm Delta fan off Ebay for $7 including shipping. Had to change to connector on it but other than that it works fine, around 8cfm output. There are several on Newegg and Ebay from dirt cheap to very expensive. The Delta I got has dual ball bearings and good output for the size of the fan.
 
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I haven't done much with my system it's kinda embarrassing I still never got side cover on it kinda tough with wires as they are but just checking in and seeing if anyone here has any new news and maybe that will spark me to get under the hood of mine and play around a little bit with it some more.
 

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God how long am I going to run this system? My little 1680v2 at only 4.2ghz still keeps me quite happy. Just going to wait for a used TR system next....
If I had more than 16 threads I wouldn't be looking at tr....
 

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God how long am I going to run this system? My little 1680v2 at only 4.2ghz still keeps me quite happy. Just going to wait for a used TR system next....
If I had more than 16 threads I wouldn't be looking at tr....
The same for me: I have a 1680v2 @4.4 daily and it keeps on working incredibly good paired with a 2070.
I was looking at the new x99 chinese mobos with ddr3 support, but I stilll think my system is more than ok
 
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The same for me: I have a 1680v2 @4.4 daily and it keeps on working incredibly good paired with a 2070.
I was looking at the new x99 chinese mobos with ddr3 support, but I stilll think my system is more than ok

Yeah I got my 4.5 ghz water cooled hack custom looped 1680 works great seems foolish to upgrade because it does everything I want as quickly as you can ask and I don't have money to upgrade anyway lol.
 
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Does anybody know what size the chipset fan (the one under the cover behind the SATA ports) on the Sabertooth X79 is? My newest one is running much warmer than my first one does and I want to put a higher output fan in it. I have another Xeon E5 1680 V2 on the way for the latest mobo and don't feel like pulling the board until the Xeon gets here next week so I can deal with everything that needs doing at the same time.
 
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Does anybody know what size the chipset fan (the one under the cover behind the SATA ports) on the Sabertooth X79 is? My newest one is running much warmer than my first one does and I want to put a higher output fan in it. I have another Xeon E5 1680 V2 on the way for the latest mobo and don't feel like pulling the board until the Xeon gets here next week so I can deal with everything that needs doing at the same time.
You mean this fan:
IMG_5244.jpg

I have the same mobo but no idea the exact size of that fan it's close in size to some of those "oldish" weaker gpu fans....BTW. maybe is time first to change the termal paste bellow and then see the temp before you change that fan.....
 
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Yes, that's the one. Mine has a different type of fan in it though and I want to put one like that has in it. My other X79 Sabertooth has a fan like in the picture above and I bought that mobo new. I bought the second mobo used and it's likely been replaced already. I'll probably get one made by Delta that pushes a lot of cfm. I have to take the cover off to pull the fan and measure it and the mounting screws for the cover are on the back of the board. Since I have to pull it apart to change the paste I'll put a better fan in at the same time. First guess would be a 40mm but I need to know the thickness since it fits under the cover.
 
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Yes, that's the one. Mine has a different type of fan in it though and I want to put one like that has in it. My other X79 Sabertooth has a fan like in the picture above and I bought that mobo new. I bought the second mobo used and it's likely been replaced already. I'll probably get one made by Delta that pushes a lot of cfm. I have to take the cover off to pull the fan and measure it and the mounting screws for the cover are on the back of the board. Since I have to pull it apart to change the paste I'll put a better fan in at the same time. First guess would be a 40mm but I need to know the thickness since it fits under the cover.
Ok....Well I am not sure but as I said above maybe one of those old gpu fan can fit in it like this one:
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Yes, that's the one. Mine has a different type of fan in it though and I want to put one like that has in it. My other X79 Sabertooth has a fan like in the picture above and I bought that mobo new. I bought the second mobo used and it's likely been replaced already. I'll probably get one made by Delta that pushes a lot of cfm. I have to take the cover off to pull the fan and measure it and the mounting screws for the cover are on the back of the board. Since I have to pull it apart to change the paste I'll put a better fan in at the same time. First guess would be a 40mm but I need to know the thickness since it fits under the cover.
Ok....Well I am not sure but as I said above maybe one of those old gpu fan can fit in it like this one:
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Welcome guys! I will go back and see if you were around earlier probably were but I haven't been on here a lot myself so lol forgive me but at the least I didn't notice your posts as often as some of the guys who used to live on here...good luck with that fan and hopefully that fixes your issue with the sabertooth! I never owned that mobo looks cool but know nothing about it or I'd offer my advice.


However, I am delighted to see activity here and also am somewhat saddened but more learned by the experience of my 1680 v2 posting a 00 code yesterday and no bios reset or hard reset or unplugging of any device I could think of to it would fix it....00, period. I have in the past posted that dreadful same scenario with other mobo's and other cpu's with this combo and 00 can be ok if it flashes by quickly and normal boot sequence occurs but if it just stays at 00 you're basically looking at a dead piece of hardware or really bad bios corruption/settings that need to be reset. In this case, I took as a last gasp of desperation my 3930k which THANKFULLY I had kept and put in a drawer which I could find ( don't know about you but in even a relatively small ranch house once CPU can be easy to lose, or throw away even accidentally!) and it booted up just fine.

My theory was immediately the mobo had shit the bed, I literally have never had a CPU not work, I upgrade every 2-10 years depending on generations and money I have available and so far minus this case I never had a CPU fail entirely though some I'm sure had degradation of some degree for the amount I hammered on them. So for roughly 3 years'ish? I'vehad this 1680 and I have pushed it hard and I put it under water and pushed the memory hard...and I think that last bit is the key, I pushed the memory controller very hard and kept the VCCSA and other settings fairly high at times and though I have no idea for sure what lead to the cpu totally giving up I'd bet the ivy bridge just had a bit too much hammering on the IMC and the memory controller is shot or the link between it and the cpu is and it went from a few odd hiccups on occasion to a complete 00 code due to that.

I also gave the CPU a fair dose of voltage but for quite a while now I settled on 4.5 ghz and less than 1.36 volts which I think for 22 nm is quite reasonable especially if you keep the cpu under 70 degrees at all time. So minus having someone diagnose the chip with expertise beyond what I have to physically see what is wrong or with software try and test is that is my only reasonable guess particularly since I backed off the old 4.625 ghz overclock I used to have on it and at one point I was pushing for 4.7 but admittedly that was a pipe dream minus a few fluke runs where it passed certain tests etc.

So long story short, I think Ivy bridge E has a potentially very good memory controller, but it was pushed to the limit for the platform and when you have 2666 mhz + speeds and tight timings along with a healthy dose of voltage on the memory controller related settings even if within reason over time you MAY end up with a CPU that pukes like mine did.

So if anyone here is actually going to stick with this platform for any length of time I think that is a good lesson for you, the 32nm is far less capable on the memory overclocks but I have 2 cpu's a 3930k and my initial 3960k sample which both still work and I tortured both pretty hard but the IMC's on those just will not produce the #'s the 22nm Ivy does but it does appear either 8 cores on 22nm unlocked is really pushing the limit and/or the IMC which is improved on IVY vs. Sandy in conjunction with the die shrink is great for a few years on a great OC board like my X79 Black but it does appear the CPU really is pushed to its' utter limits and longevity could be an issue. I only have 1 1680v2 so not a big sample size but I've been OC'ing and on these forums for 15 + years and NEVER had a CPU refuse to post, I've only had a couple mobo's that had bent pins or other issues and even that was fairly rare. So in summary, I think Intel may have moved on from the X79 architecture to the X99 despite the minimal gains partially due to the fact that X79 and the CPU's with it were pushed to the furthest point one could expect to harness from the platform.

I'm going to re-install my 3930k for I only slapped it on with minimal thermal compound because I honestly thought the MOBO was kaput and the cpu wasn't the issue and was amazed it booted at all. This does however make me wonder if my old X79 Black is perfectly fine and all the issues it had was the CPU, but a lot of the issues there did seem to have a tie to the mobo so unless I feel really brave or bored this board is staying for now for it seems stable unlike that old board which posted great #'s but would randomly restart which I believe was due to bad mobo phases/transistors. Anyway for the moment I'm up and running at least at minimal clocks and will update you on my progress on OC'ing and re-installing cpu with good compound and better contact with the watercooling I have.
 
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A few years ago I had an ASRock mobo that suddenly began posting code 00. I got another EEPROM for it and all was good until I sold it last year. I'm running 1866 and 2133 memory on both of my X79's at stock speeds and timings. Both have 64GB and The Ram Guy at Corsair told me several years ago to run it at 1.65 volts (back in 2012 when I built the first one with a 3930K in it and got 5.02GHz stable out of it) to lessen the strain on the memory controller. The 3930K took 5-6 years for the signs of core degradation to show up. I clocked it down to 4.5GHz and had to increase the core voltage to keep it stable. A few years ago I scored my binned 4960X for $50 from somebody who was parting out a Falcon Northwest rig with a dead motherboard. He thought the CPU was likely dead too and had no way to test it. I took a gamble and won big with it. I also got the 64GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 and a new Corsair AXi 1200 PSU from him for $250. All of it found a new home in my X79 rig. When I got the E5 1680 V2 a few months back I swapped it with the 4960X that had been running at 4.7GHz. Two reboots later (due to the CPU change) the 1680 was running at the same speed but slightly cooler than the 4960X. I have it at 4.5GHz with 1.32 core volts now and it's been trouble free.

Since I had the 4960X I got another Sabertooth X79 used of Ebay and built a nearly identical twin to my first X79. Now I've got a second E5 1680 V2 on the way for that one and the 4960X will likely go up on Ebay for a nice profit. For A/V production work the 1680 is far superior to the 4960X. The Xeon gives nearly identical performance to the 5960X in my Asus X99 Deluxe running at the same speed but with DDR4 2400 instead of the DDR3 2133 in the Sabertooth X79. It's fun and relatively inexpensive to keep the old X79 platform not only running but still showing impressive performance by using the once insanely expensive Xeon CPU's.
 
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A few years ago I had an ASRock mobo that suddenly began posting code 00. I got another EEPROM for it and all was good until I sold it last year. I'm running 1866 and 2133 memory on both of my X79's at stock speeds and timings. Both have 64GB and The Ram Guy at Corsair told me several years ago to run it at 1.65 volts (back in 2012 when I built the first one with a 3930K in it and got 5.02GHz stable out of it) to lessen the strain on the memory controller. The 3930K took 5-6 years for the signs of core degradation to show up. I clocked it down to 4.5GHz and had to increase the core voltage to keep it stable. A few years ago I scored my binned 4960X for $50 from somebody who was parting out a Falcon Northwest rig with a dead motherboard. He thought the CPU was likely dead too and had no way to test it. I took a gamble and won big with it. I also got the 64GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 and a new Corsair AXi 1200 PSU from him for $250. All of it found a new home in my X79 rig. When I got the E5 1680 V2 a few months back I swapped it with the 4960X that had been running at 4.7GHz. Two reboots later (due to the CPU change) the 1680 was running at the same speed but slightly cooler than the 4960X. I have it at 4.5GHz with 1.32 core volts now and it's been trouble free.

Since I had the 4960X I got another Sabertooth X79 used of Ebay and built a nearly identical twin to my first X79. Now I've got a second E5 1680 V2 on the way for that one and the 4960X will likely go up on Ebay for a nice profit. For A/V production work the 1680 is far superior to the 4960X. The Xeon gives nearly identical performance to the 5960X in my Asus X99 Deluxe running at the same speed but with DDR4 2400 instead of the DDR3 2133 in the Sabertooth X79. It's fun and relatively inexpensive to keep the old X79 platform not only running but still showing impressive performance by using the once insanely expensive Xeon CPU's.

I totally agree with you, X99 was the best upgrade I never made....however after pushing my 1680 it has croaked granted after a couple years and it was used before so for all I know it could have been used for years crunching numbers and had many miles on it....but long story short it did just "give up" and I put in the 3930k I got as a stopgap when my 3960k "sample" had outlived its' use because it wasn't supported with newer bios updates (damn intel) and I had to buy a legit Intel processor and the 3930k always worked but I wanted 8 cores and the best overclocking/memory I could get so I got the 1860v2 a few years ago when prices finally plummeted to mid 300$ ranges and I can't complain it did great for time I had it but as I said for whatever reason even under good watercooling it decided to totally give up so much as I liked it seems 6 cores and 2400 mhz memory was really the long term limit for X79 and maybe as I said I had bad sample or a very abused sample ( no way to know) but it's only one I got and it's only processor I've ever had just stop working whereas I've had boards give up however few. At any rate gives me a chance to fool around with the 32nm 6 core I have and see what it can do and I'll post my first successful stable run here I don't think I had this nice cool double rad setup when it was retired so I'd love to get another 1680 and may do so but for now the Sandy Bridge will be the processor of choice for a while simply because it's installed, running well, and doing the job and it was a pain in the ass dealing with the 8 core Ivy as it was dying and programs were acting up (unbeknownst to me).
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I lopped off a couple of the cores but having issues with the photo capture software but it appears at any rate I have a 4.625 ghz stable Sandy 6 core which with decent memory timings will certainly do the job, better than an 8 core ivy that apparently was on it's last legs, who knew? But just goes to show you tech is fickle and you never know what's going to happen and always good to have a back up plan....
 

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Today you can easily buy a 1680 V2 for $150 (the cost of the one I just bought) to $200 off Ebay. My 3930K was a fun CPU. Here one of the Passmark benchmarks from 2012 with it at 5.02 GHz: https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=2186930613 I have a few more from the same time with slightly higher scores but don't know where they are at the moment. My 1680 got a CPU score a little over 21,400 a few months ago and that's a big difference.

I've only blown up one CPU in 21 years, an Athlon Thunderbird while overclocking it 19+ years ago using the pencil trick. The die literally exploded and a chunk came off a corner. I still have it somewhere here.
 
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Welcome guys! I will go back and see if you were around earlier probably were but I haven't been on here a lot myself so lol forgive me but at the least I didn't notice your posts as often as some of the guys who used to live on here...good luck with that fan and hopefully that fixes your issue with the sabertooth! I never owned that mobo looks cool but know nothing about it or I'd offer my advice.


However, I am delighted to see activity here and also am somewhat saddened but more learned by the experience of my 1680 v2 posting a 00 code yesterday and no bios reset or hard reset or unplugging of any device I could think of to it would fix it....00, period. I have in the past posted that dreadful same scenario with other mobo's and other cpu's with this combo and 00 can be ok if it flashes by quickly and normal boot sequence occurs but if it just stays at 00 you're basically looking at a dead piece of hardware or really bad bios corruption/settings that need to be reset. In this case, I took as a last gasp of desperation my 3930k which THANKFULLY I had kept and put in a drawer which I could find ( don't know about you but in even a relatively small ranch house once CPU can be easy to lose, or throw away even accidentally!) and it booted up just fine.

My theory was immediately the mobo had shit the bed, I literally have never had a CPU not work, I upgrade every 2-10 years depending on generations and money I have available and so far minus this case I never had a CPU fail entirely though some I'm sure had degradation of some degree for the amount I hammered on them. So for roughly 3 years'ish? I'vehad this 1680 and I have pushed it hard and I put it under water and pushed the memory hard...and I think that last bit is the key, I pushed the memory controller very hard and kept the VCCSA and other settings fairly high at times and though I have no idea for sure what lead to the cpu totally giving up I'd bet the ivy bridge just had a bit too much hammering on the IMC and the memory controller is shot or the link between it and the cpu is and it went from a few odd hiccups on occasion to a complete 00 code due to that.

I also gave the CPU a fair dose of voltage but for quite a while now I settled on 4.5 ghz and less than 1.36 volts which I think for 22 nm is quite reasonable especially if you keep the cpu under 70 degrees at all time. So minus having someone diagnose the chip with expertise beyond what I have to physically see what is wrong or with software try and test is that is my only reasonable guess particularly since I backed off the old 4.625 ghz overclock I used to have on it and at one point I was pushing for 4.7 but admittedly that was a pipe dream minus a few fluke runs where it passed certain tests etc.

So long story short, I think Ivy bridge E has a potentially very good memory controller, but it was pushed to the limit for the platform and when you have 2666 mhz + speeds and tight timings along with a healthy dose of voltage on the memory controller related settings even if within reason over time you MAY end up with a CPU that pukes like mine did.

So if anyone here is actually going to stick with this platform for any length of time I think that is a good lesson for you, the 32nm is far less capable on the memory overclocks but I have 2 cpu's a 3930k and my initial 3960k sample which both still work and I tortured both pretty hard but the IMC's on those just will not produce the #'s the 22nm Ivy does but it does appear either 8 cores on 22nm unlocked is really pushing the limit and/or the IMC which is improved on IVY vs. Sandy in conjunction with the die shrink is great for a few years on a great OC board like my X79 Black but it does appear the CPU really is pushed to its' utter limits and longevity could be an issue. I only have 1 1680v2 so not a big sample size but I've been OC'ing and on these forums for 15 + years and NEVER had a CPU refuse to post, I've only had a couple mobo's that had bent pins or other issues and even that was fairly rare. So in summary, I think Intel may have moved on from the X79 architecture to the X99 despite the minimal gains partially due to the fact that X79 and the CPU's with it were pushed to the furthest point one could expect to harness from the platform.

I'm going to re-install my 3930k for I only slapped it on with minimal thermal compound because I honestly thought the MOBO was kaput and the cpu wasn't the issue and was amazed it booted at all. This does however make me wonder if my old X79 Black is perfectly fine and all the issues it had was the CPU, but a lot of the issues there did seem to have a tie to the mobo so unless I feel really brave or bored this board is staying for now for it seems stable unlike that old board which posted great #'s but would randomly restart which I believe was due to bad mobo phases/transistors. Anyway for the moment I'm up and running at least at minimal clocks and will update you on my progress on OC'ing and re-installing cpu with good compound and better contact with the watercooling I have.
I been on this forum for years not sure if I posted on this particular topic before because I owned X58&6Core Xeon and fairly recently I switched on X79(6-7months ago)as I sold X58 more or less this platform cost me just a few bucks more(+30€)after all upgrades....This Sabertooth X79 came with I7 3820 inside that I immediately pulled out and sold then I decide to go with some 8 core cheap solution and for the money I have this 2650 V2 seems like a good choice and it IS after my BCLK OC this sample working on 3,4Ghz on ALL cores and turbo-boosting on 3,8Ghz which for me is more then enough.....
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I am more then satisfied for now but If possibility arises I will upgrade with something better I am always"sniffing"around....who knows maybe I found cheaply my dream CPU 2697V2.....we will see....
 
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Best I got so far from my 3930k, will post memory stats shortly it's well over 2400 so I'm pretty pleased considering for a while 4.5 ghz was about all I could do with 1680
 
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Halfway done with the second X79 Sabertooth redo. I pulled the chipset cooling fan assembly and the die was packed with old Arctic Silver 5 from a bungled attempt at replacing the heatsink compound. Took it completely apart, cleaned everything properly then reinstalled it with a dab of Gelid Extreme on the die. Replaced the 4960X with the E5 1680 V2 that came this afternoon. While everything was out of the case I got out the Dremel and did a mod to mount the radiator & cooling fan for the XFX R9 Fury X externally on the back of the case. Break time now for a Coke and a bit of relaxation before putting it all back together.
 
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BTW guys I didn't have a clue that on my mobo with bclk OC I could even change 0,1(split numbers) on bus speed....well maybe is not much but I managed to drain 0,5 more on my bus speed :roll:

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Hi!

I have been doing some upgrades.

First of I scored a cheap 1680v2 from Germany on ebay. Germany is good since it is witin EU so no customs.

I found that 4.4Ghz @1.4v works good. I tried 125Mhz strap but cannot get it stable. CPU never goes above 70c with a Kraken X61.


A decent score for 1680v2


Next of was a bargain I found for $60. An Intel 750 400gb.


Booting on 750 is supported on X99 and newer but I used UBU Tool to update my bios and booting 750 works fine. Link to UBU Tool => https://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html

Performance is great. No SATA SSD can compete with this one. Win10 feels snappier and games loads very fast.


Last is a MSI 5700XT Mech.


It is a pain to reinstall Win10 and all apps but it was worth it. Now I can keep X79 for a couple years.
 
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Hi!

I have been doing some upgrades.

First of I scored a cheap 1680v2 from Germany on ebay. Germany is good since it is witin EU so no customs.

I found that 4.4Ghz @1.4v works good. I tried 125Mhz strap but cannot get it stable. CPU never goes above 70c with a Kraken X61.


A decent score for 1680v2


Next of was a bargain I found for $60. An Intel 750 400gb.


Booting on 750 is supported on X99 and newer but I used UBU Tool to update my bios and booting 750 works fine. Link to UBU Tool => https://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html

Performance is great. No SATA SSD can compete with this one. Win10 feels snappier and games loads very fast.


Last is a MSI 5700XT MACH.


It is a pain to reinstall Win10 and all apps but it was worth it. Now I can keep X79 for a couple years.
How much did it cost you? 1680 V2 usually are a bit pricey.....
 
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