AMD Radeon VII 16 GB Review 553

AMD Radeon VII 16 GB Review

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AMD Wattman


For Vega 20, AMD has once again changed how overclocking works. Instead of two curves with several points that control frequency and voltage separately, you now only get three points that can be moved to form a smooth curve, combining voltage and frequency in a single UI element.

When dragging these points, you can only move them vertically, which just controls the voltage. Moving the points horizontally to adjust clocks isn't possible—you have to drag the white vertical lines with the little flags at the top, which is somewhat counter-intuitive.


Note the dashed horizontal line marked as "Max". That's the maximum voltage your card can run at, dragging the points above that will have no effect. This is nicely indicated by the orange curve not going beyond the maximum voltage.


If you prefer your card stay at a single voltage and frequency as much as possible, you can drag both points right next to each other to reduce the GPU's effective operating frequency band. In reality, it looks as though this just narrows the range—the card will still run at various clocks speeds near your desired target clocks.

Junction Temperature / Hotspot


When GPU-Z first exposed the "Hotspot" thermal sensor on Radeon Vega cards, AMD requested removal, and we compromised on a "off-by-default" setting. That's why I was surprised to see that very same sensor introduced in Wattman, labeled "Junction Temperature".

In their reviewers guide, AMD sheds some additional light on this new sensor. They have placed 64 thermal sensors in strategic locations all over the GPU die, which is twice the number of sensors found on first-generation Vega. The highest reading of all these sensors is called "Junction Temperature" and reported in Wattman. Radeon VII uses Junction Temperature for thermal throttling and fan control.

Just like on Vega, the reported temperature values are quite high, which might scare some less experienced users. Once Junction Temperature reaches 115°C, the card will start throttling a little bit to keep the temperature below 115°C. At stock, with our card, this doesn't happen during gaming—we saw up to 110°C Junction Temperature.

Overall, exposing this sensor in Wattman is a good choice because, just like on Vega, it provides a means for enthusiasts to detect if their cooler mounting is uneven or some other mounting issue exists.

I do have doubts though on tying fan control into Junction Temperature. Its value will rise super quickly as soon as some load is running on the card, at a point in time when the thermal solution still has capacity to soak up heat. Intel considers this additional headroom in their CPU Turbo design, and it works great for handling quick bursts of activity at maximum performance without overloading the cooling solution.


After completing all testing and photos, I reassembled my card and wondered if I could push Junction Temperature below the 110°C I've been seeing on the stock card. Changing the thermal paste didn't make much of a difference (barely 1-2 °C better). My trick for such situations is increasing mounting pressure by adding little metal washers. Pictured above, you see two of the washers: one to get a better look and another below one of the mounting screws to indicate the location I placed it in. Of course, you want to use a total of four washers—one for each screw. I used 6 mm outer diameter, 3 mm inner diameter and 0.5 mm thickness, but you can use everything that falls into that size range. Also, I'd recommend plastic washers, so you don't accidentally short something if you lose it in our case.

With the washers installed, my Radeon VII Junction Temperature dropped by around 10°C to 100°C, which is a significant improvement.

Overclocking



With manual overclocking, maximum overclock of our sample is 1165 MHz on the memory (12% overclock) and 1950 MHz for the GPU clock (8% overclock).

As mentioned before, voltage control is possible for both overvolting and undervolting. However, when overvolting, the card will run into the 115°C Junction Thermal limit VERY quickly, which causes all sorts of throttling. Increasing the board power limit doesn't help either since the problem is the temperature, not the amount of deliverable power.

Testing notes & interpretation
  • Overclocking was tested with the stock thermal paste and before disassembling the card for photos.
  • Overclocking results listed in this section are achieved with the default fan, power, and voltage settings as defined in the VGA BIOS. We choose this approach as it is the most realistic scenario for most users.
  • Each GPU (including each GPU of the same make and model) will overclock slightly differently based on random production variances.
  • The data in this table shows comparable overclocks using identical conditions from previous TechPowerUp Reviews.

Overclocked Performance

Using these clock frequencies, we ran a quick test of Unigine Heaven to evaluate the gains from overclocking.


Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 8.2%.
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