Thursday, October 1st 2009

NVIDIA 'Fermi', Tesla Board Pictured in Greater Detail, Non-Functional Dummy Unveiled

Unveiled at the footnote of the GPU Technology Conference 2009, by none other than NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, NVIDIA's Fermi architecture looks promising, at least in the field of GPGPU, which was extensively discussed upon in his address. The first reference board based on NVIDIA's newest 'GT300' GPU is a Tesla HPC processor card, which quickly became the face of the Fermi architecture. Singapore HardwareZone, and PCPop caught some of the first closeup pictures of the Tesla accelerator, and the GPU's BGA itself. Decked in a dash of chrome, the Tesla HPC processor card isn't particularly long, instead a great deal of compacting by its designers is evident. It draws power from one 8-pin, and 6-pin PCI-E power connectors, which aren't located next to each other. The cooler's blower also draws air from openings in the PCB, and a backplate further cools the GPU (and possibly other components located) from behind. From the looks of it, the GPU package itself isn't larger than that of the GT200 or its predecessor, the G80. Looks like NVIDIA is ready with a working prototype against all odds, after all, doesn't it? Not quite. On close inspection of the PCB, it doesn't look like a working sample. Components that are expected to have pins protruding soldered on the other side, don't have them, and the PCB seems to be abruptly ending. Perhaps it's only a dummy made to display at GTC, and give an indication of how the card ends up looking like. In other words, it doesn't look like NVIDIA has a working prototype/sample of the card they intended to have displayed the other day.
Sources: Singapore HardwareZone, PCPop
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94 Comments on NVIDIA 'Fermi', Tesla Board Pictured in Greater Detail, Non-Functional Dummy Unveiled

#1
Beowulf
by: pr0n Inspector
No do not read it. Read this thread.
I have read both, and you should too.

Are you telling me this isnt a fake card?
If so read charlies article, or at least just look at the pictures and judge for yourself.
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#2
inferKNOX
lol, your guys bickering has made me wanna read it, just to see what all the fuss is about.
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#3
Beowulf
by: inferKNOX
lol, your guys bickering has made me wanna read it, just to see what all the fuss is about.
Sorry, I'll stop now then :o
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#4
pr0n Inspector
by: Beowulf
I have read both, and you should too.

Are you telling me this isnt a fake card?
If so read charlies article, or at least just look at the pictures and judge for yourself.
Because this thread already tells us it's a fake card. There is no need to knowingly torture your brain.
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#5
Beowulf
by: pr0n Inspector
Because this thread already tells us it's a fake card. There is no need to knowingly torture your brain.
You're right, just look at the close-ups instead and skip the text :)
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#6
inferKNOX
Well, I haven't read the rest of it yet, but when I saw the cut PCB, I thought just what he said here:
WHAT DO YOU do when have a major conference planned to introduce a card, but you don't have a card? You fake it, and Nvidia did just that.
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#7
Meizuman

Nvidia's Share Price Chart


EDIT: The reason for the above is Nvidia's bad situation on chipsets, there will be no i7 / i5 chipsets (no licenses to use DMI), and AMD's own chips (700 series) are selling better than Nvidia offerings.

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#8
Beowulf
by: inferKNOX
Well, I haven't read the rest of it yet, but when I saw the cut PCB, I thought just what he said here:
Yeah, at least they could have waited until they actually had a working card, able to run a few demos. I guess thats not part of the good ethics book at nVidia HQ.
They seem to take consumers and enthusiast for idiots, and I dont like being played with like this. :mad:
I hope this will come round and bite them in the ass, just enough for them to think twice before pulling something like this again.
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#9
inferKNOX
by: Beowulf
Yeah, at least they could have waited until they actually had a working card, able to run a few demos. I guess thats not part of the good ethics book at nVidia HQ.
They seem to take consumers and enthusiast for idiots, and I dont like being played with like this. :mad:
I hope this will come round and bite them in the ass, just enough for them to think twice before pulling something like this again.
I was thinking more along the lines of them having scheduled this, expecting to have something, then failing to produce and trying to save face by making a fake so that they don't have to postpone.
A really really stupid move IMO, even greedy one could say, to steal ATi's spotlight.:shadedshu
They should have rescheduled. My respect for nV had gone down quite a bit today. I they can falsify this, then it shows they don't feel sensitive to outrage in the face of profits.:slap:
Anyway, let me not say too much in case I come under fire by nV supporters that would defend even this.:p
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#10
tigger
I'm the only one
I think charlies article is good,how the hell can nvidia show that card and expect not to get ridiculed.What he says in that post is 100% true,only nvidia fanboys will refuse to believe it.
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#11
Imsochobo
cant say else than.

And let me see those cards so i can buy some CF love again!(Price drops due to nvidia release)
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#12
DaMulta
My stars went supernova
Funny stuff! I bet they are upset about ATi hitting DX11 before them let alone 10.1
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#13
mdm-adph
If there's one thing this industry has taught us, it's to wait for a functional prototype.

We all remember the HD 2900 XT.

Could the G300 be Nvidia's R600? Hot, heavy, and with not much better performance, costing far, far too much?
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#14
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: Beowulf
He might have a grudge against nVidia, but the things he brings up in the article are not false. So yes, read it and make up your own mind about it.

To me this certainly makes nvidia a company im less inclined to deal with. And these cards are about 5+months out anyway, so this is just a poor attempt at ruining DAAMITs party. :shadedshu
No one ever said it was a functional product, not even hinted at by nVidia. So yeah, everyone pretty much guess it wasn't a real card right away. Did that dumbass have to write an entire article about it? No, but he like to spin everything into a negative for nVidia.

Mock-ups are a name of the game. In an industry where looks matters just about as much as they do in the car industry, mock-ups are common place to give an idea of what the card will look like. They never said it was functional, if it was functional, they would have been giving demos. It is more likely that the functional models still look like shit, with non-retail cooling, just enough to get them working so the bugs can begin to be worked out. And they probably didn't want to sacrifice the developement time by giving ot a sample, just to be eye candy at a conference.

by: mdm-adph
If there's one thing this industry has taught us, it's to wait for a functional prototype.

We all remember the HD 2900 XT.

Could the G300 be Nvidia's R600? Hot, heavy, and with not much better performance, costing far, far too much?
Definitely, always wait for a functional sample, or even better a retail sample with independent reviews.

It might have the hot and heavy part, but judging by the specs it will definitely have the better performance.

by: Meizuman

Nvidia's Share Price Chart


http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2883/tesafilm.png
Oh come on, I lost a lot of respect for you because of that picture...where's the duct tape and bubble gum?!?!?! :laugh:
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#15
Edito
Ppl can say wathever they want but i think nvidia will rock with the GT300 or FERMI... i like ATI but i realy think nvidia its realy something else... the way they cards works its simple better... don´t get me wrong its all about my experiences with booth cards...
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#16
ToTTenTranz
by: Edito
Ppl can say wathever they want but i think nvidia will rock with the GT300 or FERMI... i like ATI but i realy think nvidia its realy something else... the way they cards works its simple better... don´t get me wrong its all about my experiences with booth cards...
lol, I wish I had experiences with "booth" cards too.




by: Meizuman

Nvidia's Share Price Chart

I did a printscreen on that:



See that peak? It's the 1st of October, when the card was shown.

See what happens next? That's people finding out about the fake...




Oops?
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#17
MAC292OH10
by: aj28
Wouldn't be surprised if those are the type of benchmarks we begin to see from nVidia as the PR stuff rolls on. Problem is, those aren't GeForce numbers, they're Quadro numbers. Hell, even most Quadro customers don't care about that stuff... Unless they roll this chip immediately to the GPGPU crowd (which doesn't actually exist yet), they're going to have issues marketing this thing.
cant disagree with that...

although being a WX enthusiast, i would love to run my own daily WRF simulations(severe WX, winter WX, tropical systems) via Cuda/fortran(GPGPU)...just having trouble finding the resources to guide me in the right direction, if anyone has any infos plz share....:)
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#18
dir_d
by: newtekie1
Mock-ups are a name of the game. In an industry where looks matters just about as much as they do in the car industry, mock-ups are common place to give an idea of what the card will look like. They never said it was functional, if it was functional, they would have been giving demos. It is more likely that the functional models still look like shit, with non-retail cooling, just enough to get them working so the bugs can begin to be worked out. And they probably didn't want to sacrifice the developement time by giving ot a sample, just to be eye candy at a conference.
Oh come on... This business isn't even close to the car business. You know people don't care what it looks like. Theres's absolutely no need to show a "mock up" of a Graphics card. The plain and simple fact is that Nvidia was trying to mislead people by showing off something that they don't have. They either didn't meet their deadline when they made the press release or wanted to steal ATIs thunder and its just not cool. I would have respected them more if they had something functional even if it was all black and had some crappy fan taped to it. They could have also did a full paper launch and made us wonder what it looked like and when they finally had pictures we would have been amazed.
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#19
shevanel
well nvidia launchin a payment plan for these cards or what? :roll: figure since it will not be until 2010 when we see them we might as well be on the hook better than fake cards being used to hint that nvidia thinks people are forgetting about them so they use these to try to stay on the radar somehow. even if they do come out this year, they will be so expsensive the average joe is just going to buy what he can afford unlss hes patient..

no such thing as bad publicity they say
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#21
dir_d
by: shevanel
well nvidia launchin a payment plan for these cards or what? :roll: figure since it will not be until 2010 when we see them we might as well be on the hook better than fake cards being used to hint that nvidia thinks people are forgetting about them so they use these to try to stay on the radar somehow. even if they do come out this year, they will be so expsensive the average joe is just going to buy what he can afford unlss hes patient..

no such thing as bad publicity they say
Yea really look how many people in this thread is like" oh how shiny im in love im gonna buy one for sure" Green camp did the job. Personally i dont like the way it looks but before i found out it was a fake i was quite impressed, now i feel like i got used.
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#22
mdm-adph
by: largon
You forgot to credit saaya at XS for the pic.
http://largon.wippiespace.com/smilies/poke.gif
Ah -- should've included saaya's caption to the image, too:

by: Meizuman

as you can see we added some nano-technology plastic tape, which is wrapped around the card, protecting it from super-charged alpha particles from outer space! *audience applauds*
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#23
Velvet Wafer
2% yield. 7 chips. why dont codename it "bugatti"?

very humorous. they must do coke,somehow:laugh:
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#24
Mistral
by: newtekie1
No one ever said it was a functional product, not even hinted at by nVidia....

Mock-ups are a name of the game. In an industry where looks matters just about as much as they do in the car industry, mock-ups are common place to give an idea of what the card will look like...
The CEO holding it in hand and saying "this puppy here is 'Fermi'" was just a friendly jest...

Seriously though, I get what you're saying, but what excuse do they have for making such a low-grade (not to say piss-poor) mock-up? Surely they could've done better than that...
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#25
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
Looks like nV is on the chopping block now. Doesn't even matter if they release a product or not lol.
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