Friday, October 25th 2013

Radeon R9 290 Performance Figures Leaked, Beats GTX 780

If these performance numbers posted by credible reviewers at OCUK hold up, then AMD could have a second, more affordable graphics card for you, which outperforms NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 780, at least in synthetic benchmarks. In a brief performance run that spans synthetic tests, which included Unigine Heaven 3.0 at 1080p and 1440p resolutions, with normal level of tessellation; 3DMark 11 (performance preset) and 3DMark Fire Strike (both Normal and Extreme); the card we believe to be R9 290 (name blurred out in the graphs) is consistently faster than the GeForce GTX 780 reference, in the same bench.

Based on the same 28 nm "Hawaii" silicon as the Radeon R9 290X, the R9 290 is its more affordable sibling, featuring 2,560 Graphics CoreNext stream processors, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs, and a 512-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, holding 4 GB of memory. It features clock speeds of 947 MHz (core), and 5.00 GHz (memory, GDDR5-effective). There's no word on pricing, but it could be available from the 31st of October, 2013.

Source: Overclockers UK (OCUK)
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73 Comments on Radeon R9 290 Performance Figures Leaked, Beats GTX 780

#3
jigar2speed
If R9 290 beats GTX780 while costing $450, it will bring a lot of pain in Nvidia's world.
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#4
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
nvidia fanbois... are feeling butthurt everywhere :roll:
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#5
RCoon
Forum Gypsy
by: jigar2speed
If R9 290 beats GTX780 while costing $450, it will bring a lot of pain in Nvidia's world.
I certainly hope this brings GPU prices down all over the show. At this rate everyone from both sides will be winners in the coming months of REASONABLE price wars.
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#6
buggalugs
wow, this will shake things up more than the 290X does....

by: RCoon
I certainly hope this brings GPU prices down all over the show. At this rate everyone from both sides will be winners in the coming months of REASONABLE price wars.
Except for the people who have already bought titan at $1,000 or even the 780, bought at the wrong time and paid too much....
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jigar2speed
by: RCoon
I certainly hope this brings GPU prices down all over the show. At this rate everyone from both sides will be winners in the coming months of REASONABLE price wars.
Exactly, if Nvidia can offer me TITAN even at $600 i am all for it.
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#8
NutZInTheHead
I just love competition.
Just imagine how Intel would price their top tier processors if AMD CPUs were competitive.

Good on you AMD keep up the good work.
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RCoon
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by: buggalugs
Except for the people who have already bought titan at $1,000 or even the 780, bought at the wrong time and paid too much....
I dont feel bad for paying £550 to adopt a 780 on release day. I'm sure many Titan owners don't feel bad either.

You have a budget, and you have a desired date to play games. If you dont buy at some point, and just wait forever, you'll constantly be disappointed when something comes out to beat something else. Why would I want to wait a year after a GPU has been released to buy it at a lower cost, when something else has probably come onto the market that beats it in everything?

If everybody thought the way you did, every single person who bought ANY card within a month of it being released would feel disappointed in 6 months time when its price goes down and something else beats it at the price point you bought it for.
It's a bad arguement, and people should stop using it.
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#10
Prima.Vera
by: NutZInTheHead
I just love competition.
Just imagine how Intel would price their top tier processors if AMD CPUs were competitive.

Good on you AMD keep up the good work.
Agree. I miss Athlon 64 days...:toast:
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#11
arterius2
pretty sure the benchmarks we see here is 290 in uber mode, they will obviously use the faster mode to make their statement as there are no noise/temp/power graphs

290 uber = 290x silent
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#12
HR_The_Butcher
Will this version use the same cooler as on 290X or will there be 290 cards with custom coolers from day one?
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#13
buggalugs
by: RCoon
I dont feel bad for paying £550 to adopt a 780 on release day. I'm sure many Titan owners don't feel bad either.

You have a budget, and you have a desired date to play games. If you dont buy at some point, and just wait forever, you'll constantly be disappointed when something comes out to beat something else. Why would I want to wait a year after a GPU has been released to buy it at a lower cost, when something else has probably come onto the market that beats it in everything?

If everybody thought the way you did, every single person who bought ANY card within a month of it being released would feel disappointed in 6 months time when its price goes down and something else beats it at the price point you bought it for.
It's a bad arguement, and people should stop using it.
Maybe you can say that with the 780, but Titan is a huge fail. Usually, the new cards are around the same price or maybe 20% faster in performance but Titan has lost a huge amount of value almost 50% in just a couple of months. I cant remember any card in the last decade that has lost so much value so quickly. Massive fail. Nvidia should be called out for ass reaming its customers. Its one of the main reasons I don't have much respect for NVidia as a company.
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RCoon
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by: buggalugs
Maybe you can say that with the 780, but Titan is a huge fail. Usually, the new cards are around the same price or maybe 20% faster in performance but Titan has lost a huge amount of value almost 50% in just a couple of months. I cant remember any card in the last decade that has lost so much value so quickly. Massive fail. Nvidia should be called out for ass reaming its customers. Its one of the main reasons I don't have much respect for NVidia as a company.
7990? That is now half price in the UK :) So AMD is also guilty of over inflating the price of a card. Everything you say could be applied to this situation with the 7990, yet you dont make a case against that either, because you are here to specifically knock NVidia for all intents and purpose.
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arterius2
by: buggalugs
Maybe you can say that with the 780, but Titan is a huge fail. Usually, the new cards are around the same price or maybe 20% faster in performance but Titan has lost a huge amount of value almost 50% in just a couple of months. I cant remember any card in the last decade that has lost so much value so quickly. Massive fail. Nvidia should be called out for ass reaming its customers. Its one of the main reasons I don't have much respect for NVidia as a company.
Titan is a quiet and efficient card for what it does, and a peace of mind, and it serves other purposes other than gaming. as long as there's demand for it, it will keep selling at that given price. Just because a given card doesn't fit your profile and out of reach for you doesn't make it a failure.
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#16
Naito
I'm an Nvidia guy, but this is great news! Bring on better prices!
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#17
Naito
by: buggalugs
Maybe you can say that with the 780, but Titan is a huge fail. Usually, the new cards are around the same price or maybe 20% faster in performance but Titan has lost a huge amount of value almost 50% in just a couple of months
Not if you were after a cheap compute card...
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#18
marsey99
so am i alone in thinking the nda figures are for the 780ti?

nice 1 gibbo :thumb:
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#19
RCoon
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by: marsey99
so am i alone in thinking the nda figures are for the 780ti?

nice 1 gibbo :thumb:
Most of the graphs would look to be that way, except 3DMark. It randomly beats a Titan.
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#20
SIGSEGV
by: marsey99
so am i alone in thinking the nda figures are for the 780ti?

nice 1 gibbo :thumb:
here's the clue about 290
by: Gibbo
**UPDATE**

Hynix and Elpida are both just as good as each other.

I took my Elpida card which could only do 5700MHz
If you already own a GTX 780 or a Titan there is little reason to upgrade unless your GTX 780 is an extremely poor overclocker. We think 780Ti won't have the easy victory it maybe hoped for and the 780Ti and R290X will be very closely matched in performance, price however, most unlikely, but now its time for NVIDIA to play its cards.
he assumed that 780Ti would not get an easy victory against R290X
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#21
JTristam
by: buggalugs
Maybe you can say that with the 780, but Titan is a huge fail. Usually, the new cards are around the same price or maybe 20% faster in performance but Titan has lost a huge amount of value almost 50% in just a couple of months. I cant remember any card in the last decade that has lost so much value so quickly. Massive fail. Nvidia should be called out for ass reaming its customers. Its one of the main reasons I don't have much respect for NVidia as a company.
Care to show the proof that Titan lost almost 50% of its value in just a couple of months? Any paper or sheet or legit article you can show everyone here? Or that was just your stupid argument out of blind hatred, being a fanboy and all? I've read many comments like that talking shit about Intel or Creative or any other company. Yet people who posted comments like that always failed to make a case against those company. Sorry, but I have to say this; I hate fanboys. Fanboys = retards, doesn't matter the color or side. :nutkick:

I've been an Intel and NVIDIA user since the GeForce 2 MX days and I bought their hardwares mainly for productivity but I never looked down upon other companies. ATI/AMD is surely inefficient regarding power consumption and there are many things like driver issues and whatnot but there's no need for me to say bad things about them like AMD=FAIL or whatever. Maybe it's just ATI/AMD trademark, maybe it's just the way they do things. So what? Love it or leave it.

But yeah, maybe that's because I'm not a fanboy to any side and I'm not a retard.

by: RCoon
I dont feel bad for paying £550 to adopt a 780 on release day. I'm sure many Titan owners don't feel bad either.
I have 2 Titans running in SLI and I never felt bad about it. I bought them about 2 weeks after release for productivity (I use 3DS Max and work as a freelance 3D artist) and playing games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3 and many more and never regretted my decision. It was a good one actually because I don't have to upgrade my graphics for at least a year or two. :toast:
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#22
EarthDog
Did this Gibbo guy delete his posts? The Elpida ram historically clocks lower than the Hynix or Samsung. If you add voltage to anything, you can overclock it more. Not sure where he was going with that... but there are complaints on the Elpida memory and its overclocking even from EVGA and many other users.

Regarding the Titan losing its value. I see where he was coming from. The Titan is a $1K card that performs like a $730 card (any overclocked 780 will match a Titan). So from an enthusiast stand point, especially in a used market (not faux markets like ebay where there are idiots that will still pay $1K for a used Titan), the value of that card has plummeted due to the competition. I mean The 290x is a hair below it for $580 for Pete's sake! The difference in performance between a Titan and a $780 is ~5%. About the only financially responsible reason to purchase a Titan in the current market, or since the release of the 780 at least, is because of its compute and DP abilities in the professional graphics segment. If you do not use that stuff, than saving $300 and getting a 780 is the fiscally responsible choice.... technically, today, the 290X would be the go to card.
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#23
1d10t
where is the pre order button?
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#24
Initialised
Pretty sure the top smudge is Uber/OC mode and the lower smudge is Quiet/Std
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#25
the54thvoid
If the 290 is within 5-10% of its big brother, it will need to be carefully priced. The GTX780 performance is so close to Titan as it has fewer cores and less memory, therefore it has more power headroom, so clocks a lot higher.
Maybe the 290 will be the better buy as it might over clock better too?
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