Thursday, January 30th 2014

AMD Mantle Driver to Only Benefit Four GPUs Initially

Crushed your F5 key on AMD driver download page yet? Unless you have four very specific AMD Radeon GPUs, you can stop it right now. According to DICE, developers of the first game to take advantage of Mantle, the 3D graphics API AMD is introducing with its Catalyst 14.1 beta driver, will give tangible benefits to only four specific GPUs - Radeon R9 290X, R9 290 (non-X), R7 260X, and A-Series "Kaveri" APU-integrated R7 200 series.

Owners of all other Radeon GPUs, including those based on the Graphics CoreNext (GCN) architecture, such as the recently launched R9 280X and R9 270X, are out of luck, for now. AMD is still ironing out issues with Mantle on those other GCN GPUs. Interestingly, in the same press note, DICE posted performance numbers yielded on an HD 7970, which look promising. AMD is expected to release its Catalyst 14.1 beta driver a little later this week, as it's jousting with some last-minute bug-finds.

Source: DICE
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133 Comments on AMD Mantle Driver to Only Benefit Four GPUs Initially

#1
AlienIsGOD
that lame, 4 gpus initially? wow what hype over the last while and the result is 2 desktop and 2 apu's supported
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#2
phanbuey
thats understandable - but soon it will work for all GPU.

This is pretty incredible.
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#3
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
mines a 7790 aka 260 so it will work???
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#4
Razorfang
by: de.das.dude
mines a 7790 aka 260 so it will work???
No.
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#5
Prima.Vera
Day by day this Mantle smells like vaporware, just like ex-Intel's Larabee...
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#6
Bjorn_Of_Iceland
by: Prima.Vera
Day by day this Mantle smells like vaporware, just like ex-Intel's Larabee...
Why? Its already working. It is right there on the article. It says there is significant boost in BF4.. and is available on the stated GPUs "for now".
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#7
tokyoduong
Wow, are you guys really complaining about free performance?

Even if it's 5%, I'll take it as it is FREE!
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#9
Deadlyraver
It has taken them a pretty long time to fully utilize GCN architecture so this is fairly understandable.
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#10
john_
All over the internet Nvidia fanboys are crying. Pathetic.
I guess putting PhysX at high settings and laughing at single digit scores with Radeon cards was OK, but Mantle is unfair, paperware, useless, just +5% and more ....crying.
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#11
Dj-ElectriC
Boy, that will slow the AMD circlejerk quite a bit.
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#12
petedread
This is still very exciting. 4 GPU's today and maybe another 4 on Monday or somewhen soon (perhaps tomorrow). Even though my rig won't benefit hugely from mantle I'm excited for those who will see 40% performance increases for free. People can now build a good gaming rig for £400 ish less then they could have yesterday. I'm sure some folk just like to beat up on everything and anything, or is it just AMD haters? Of which there seems to be a lot. I have 2x R9 290x, and they if wasn't both such good overclockers I would have two 780ti's now, just to try them out, I'm constantly tempted to take them for a spin. I have no preference of GPU brand. I just like exciting new tech. I don't get why people are down on Mantle.
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#13
Eroticus
by: Constantine Yevseyev
That's bullshit! Go f*** yourself, AMD!
God, I hope one day there'll be, like, a black hole in the middle of AMD's main office, and that thing will just suck in all their marketing staff.


It's fucking beta, just wait for full release -.-


any way mantle unless for me ... i think :P
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#16
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
LOL at that Facebook thread.
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#17
west7
i cant wait anymore i hope AMD will release a full version
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#18
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
by: west7
i cant wait anymore i hope AMD will release a full version
They will never do that.
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#19
Eroticus
by: Frick
They will never do that.
It's sucks when low-end "cpu" better then ur cpu and gpu : ahh ?
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#20
TheHunter
nah false news, AMD re-tweeted it will support all GCN gpus.. That initial info was a bad leak.
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#21
Slomo4shO
Seems this article needs to be updated...
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#22
TRWOV
by: de.das.dude
mines a 7790 aka 260 so it will work???
I suppose it should, since it's the same GCN 1.1 architecture. Unless AMD specifically blocked the 7790 that is.


by: TheHunter
nah false news, AMD re-tweeted it will support all GCN gpus.. That initial info was a bad leak.
Yeah, eventually. But at launch only 4 of them, the GCN 1.1 based ones.
AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta will support ALL desktop GCN products
Notice how it doesn't specifically say that the Mantle driver will support all GCN cards, just that Cat will.... which isn't a surprise. Cat 14.1B will even support the HD5000 and 6000 series.

It's the same as with the FX AM3+ news from two months ago. AMD's "rebuttal" doesn't address TPU's asertion.
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#23
FX-GMC
by: TRWOV
I suppose it should, since it's the same GCN 1.1 architecture. Unless AMD specifically blocked the 7790 that is.

Yeah, eventually. But at launch only 4 of them, the GCN 1.1 based ones.

Notice how it doesn't specifically say that the Mantle driver will support all GCN cards, just that Cat will.... which isn't a surprise.

It's the same as with the FX AM3+ news from two months ago. AMD's "rebuttal" doesn't specifically addresses the asertion.
I'm lost. "AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta (aka Mantle Driver) will support ALL desktop GCN products." How does that say that the Mantle driver (14.1 Beta) will not support all desktop GCN cards? Also, what does a Cat have to do with it?

Where are you getting that only 4 will work at launch (post amd update)? The way I read it is that all are supported but there are still working to fully optimize the ones listed.
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#24
W1zzard
by: Slomo4shO
Seems this article needs to be updated...
That's the info we got from AMD this morning:
by: AMD

Mantle performance for the AMD Radeon™ HD 7000/HD 8000 Series GPUs and AMD Radeon™ R9 280X and R9 270X GPUs will be optimized for BattleField 4™ in future AMD Catalyst™ releases. These products will see limited gains in BattleField 4™ and AMD is currently investigating optimizations for them as they are the next highest priority products.
Yes the driver itself will support all cards of course
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#25
Dj-ElectriC
There's AMD's support for Mentle for cards
And there's DICE's support for cards

That's 2 different things.
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