Monday, December 14th 2009

Gulftown Product Name and Tentative Price Surfaces

Contrary to older reports, Intel will stick to the Core i7 brand identifier to sell its first consumer (client) six-core processor based on the Nehalem architecture, codenamed "Gulftown". The first offering of these socket LGA-1366 processors, is the Core i7 980X Extreme Edition. Its positioning and pricing shows that Intel will replace its current flagship desktop processor, the Core i7 975 Extreme Edition with it, and at the very same price-point of US $999 (in 1000 unit tray quantities).

A future price list also shows that the Core i7 980X Extreme Edition is slated for March 2010. A month ahead of its launch, Intel will introduce the Core i7 930, which succeeds the Core i7 920 at its price-point of $284. The Gulftown core will be manufactured on Intel's brand new 32 nm HKMG process, it features 6 processing cores with 12 threads (HyperThreading Technology), triple-channel DDR3 memory with its integrated memory controller, 6.4 GT/s QPI link to the Intel X58 Express chipset, 12 MB of L3 cache, compatibility to platforms that support the Core i7 9xx processors, and 130W TDP. The Core i7 980X Extreme Edition comes with a clock speed of 3.33 GHz, The Core i7 930 on the other hand, is a quad-core processor which runs at 2.80 GHz.

Sources: PCOnline.com.cn, ZOL.com.cn
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66 Comments on Gulftown Product Name and Tentative Price Surfaces

#1
Kantastic
I want to see what AMD has to offer in 2010 before deciding whether or not I want to switch platforms. I just went from i7 to AM3 and don't want to do it again.
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#2
HalfAHertz
from what I understand the 930 is just a filler to widen te gap in performance between lga1155 and lga1366 nothing else...
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#3
Jizzler
Binge said:
Not likely. Looking at how long the Gulftown will be top dog, it doesn't look like Intel is preparing to release an 8 core proc between now and 2011
Perhaps in that market segment. But if you don't want to wait...

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#5
PP Mguire
Does anybody know if they will release a 6 core for the 1156 platform?

Edit:
Just saw Binges post. Any pics or news of the new i5?
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#6
SummerDays
I can't believe what a great processor the i7 920 has been. For $300 it was the best value around. You'd spend that much at least on a graphics card. They should actually deliver them without the fans, so people will be forced to put a decent cooling system in.

The idiots at the computer store told us we making a mistake buying on. lol

The i7 980 is $1000 to keep them out of the hands of people who don't need them. :laugh:

Question:

1. Will you be able to set the QPI to 6.4T and automatically choose the memory speed with the 930 without having to alter the base clock like the 920?
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#7
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
SummerDays said:
I can't believe what a great processor the i7 920 has been. For $300 it was the best value around. You'd spend that much at least on a graphics card. They should actually deliver them without the fans, so people will be forced to put a decent cooling system in.

The idiots at the computer store told us we making a mistake buying on. lol

The i7 980 is $1000 to keep them out of the hands of people who don't need them. :laugh:

Question:

1. Will you be able to set the QPI to 6.4T and automatically choose the memory speed with the 930 without having to alter the base clock like the 920?
Why would you have to change the base clock in a 920 to get higher memory speeds? You only have to change the memory multiplier and uncore multiplier to get higher/lower speeds on the 920. If you are talking about changing memory speeds to something odd like 1779 at stock speeds then you will have to change the BCLK, and you would have to change the BCLK on an EE chip as well. The BCLK and memory speeds are linked.
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#9
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
Jizzler said:
So was I :)

*Above* the Extreme segment there will be 8-core 2P Xeons, which is what my img was representing.
Ahhhh sorry that just confused me. It still means that there isn't for an "i9" at the moment, so I'm not too disappointed in the missing pic.
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#10
Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
I'm wondering if there may be some 6 core Xeons for LGA 1156. Hmm...
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#11
SummerDays
Binge said:
Why would you have to change the base clock in a 920 to get higher memory speeds? You only have to change the memory multiplier and uncore multiplier to get higher/lower speeds on the 920. If you are talking about changing memory speeds to something odd like 1779 at stock speeds then you will have to change the BCLK, and you would have to change the BCLK on an EE chip as well. The BCLK and memory speeds are linked.
Originaly the i7 920 was supposed to be locked so that it would only work with 1066 Mhz or under ram, because using faster ram causes the uncore (I take it) to heat up more. Much like increasing the cpu multiplier is locked today.

The QPI was also supposed to be locked to only 4.8T, but we now see that it can be increased to the 965s 6.4T.

Whether or not this story was the result of an engineering sample being used by the press and then reported, or an attempt by Intel to make sure that spec ram was used which was followed by an outcry from memory manufacturers, I can't say.
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#12
Initialised
Where are the i3s and the new Pentium on that chart?

You didn't get this from Fud or BSNews or Semi Articulate did you?

EDIT-NVM Fud sourced cannot always be trusted, hence the inaccuracy and omissions.
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#13
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
SummerDays said:
Originaly the i7 920 was supposed to be locked so that it would only work with 1066 Mhz or under ram, because using faster ram causes the uncore (I take it) to heat up more. Much like increasing the cpu multiplier is locked today.

The QPI was also supposed to be locked to only 4.8T, but we now see that it can be increased to the 965s 6.4T.

Whether or not this story was the result of an engineering sample being used by the press and then reported, or an attempt by Intel to make sure that spec ram was used which was followed by an outcry from memory manufacturers, I can't say.
The QPI is still locked at 4.8, and the 920 with locked memory speeds was a rumor. Within weeks of the rumor being released it was squashed by leaked ES benchmarks.
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#14
SummerDays
Binge said:
The QPI is still locked at 4.8, and the 920 with locked memory speeds was a rumor. Within weeks of the rumor being released it was squashed by leaked ES benchmarks.
The QPI is not locked at 4.8T.
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#15
Weer
[I.R.A]_FBi said:
Are there good duel 1366 board with good oc features?
You kidding? Of course there are.

6-core Xeon - HERE I COME! :rockout:
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#16
Jizzler
^ Mind pointing out some to the rest of us? :)
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#17
Initialised
SummerDays said:
The QPI is not locked at 4.8T.
Most board vendors got around this with BIOS updates, technically it was multiplier locked rather than hard locked and part of the 920/940/950/960 OC potential comes from running lower QPI as standard compared to the higher QPI on 965/975s.

Any way, all the leaked data I've seen suggests a 3.07 CPU will exist, so either all the ES are set a couple of multipliers lower than retail or the source is wrong. Given the omission of i3/Pentium data I suggest the latter.
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#18
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
SummerDays said:
The QPI is not locked at 4.8T.
Prove it. I can most assuredly prove you wrong.
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#19
Initialised
I am also a little perplexed by RealTempGT reporting it as i9 and CPU-Z listing i7. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel stuck with i7 but this removes product differentiation. I'd like to see an EE with 3.33 and higher QPI as well as the 3.07GHz CPU at a more reasonable price. I suspect it is pre CES positioning so they can show something 'unexpected'.
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#20
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
Binge said:
Prove it. I can most assuredly prove you wrong.
There's an option in my bios that allows me to change the QPI to 6.4. Not sure if it works but I will do some tests.
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#21
PP Mguire
Paulieg said:
I'm wondering if there may be some 6 core Xeons for LGA 1156. Hmm...
Im wondering the same thing honestly. :toast:
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#22
SummerDays
Before you do that, make sure your base clock is set back to the standard 133 Mhz.
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#23
SummerDays
Please prove that I am wrong. I humbly await your proof!
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#24
Jakl
So the Only 32nm CPU is the 980X that will cost about $1000?
Typical for Intel to have the only 32nm CPU and jack up the price :/

So will this be the only 32nm?
And would love to see a Xeon aswell
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#25
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
SummerDays said:
Before you do that, make sure your base clock is set back to the standard 133 Mhz.
SummerDays said:
Please prove that I am wrong. I humbly await your proof!
It's simple. That setting doesn't make your QPI run at 6.4GT/s, it is a multiplier! Fancy eh? If you were to set the QPI at what your bios calls 6.4GT/s then it wouldn't be actually running 6.4GT/s. Check your CPU-Z if you don't believe me.
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