Thank God I won't be using that crap known as Vista!

God I hate this "eye candy" Vista interface!! I hope at least we can switch to the more flexible and old school looking win interface.

malwareGod I hate this "eye candy" Vista interface!! I hope at least we can switch to the more flexible and old school looking win interface.

Yes you can.

I like the eyecandy... looking good. And im looking forward to Vista. Not for the interface, but for the DirectX10. I think it will revolunize gaming on PC. As DirectX9 does not keep up anymore with this "nextgen" biz... CPU´s are too slow to be the main unit, so its great DX10 is making the GPU the hardworker instead=faster & better looking games!!! ;)

Whats "A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero?"

Do you need sm3.0?

Vista will come with DX-10 so does the VC need DX-10?

THATS ridicolous, that the lord I make all that, but im not going to buy it cause seems like stuff will support xp (games programs ect) for years.. Just like some do for windows ME

markklebWhats "A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero?"

Do you need sm3.0?

Vista will come with DX-10 so does the VC need DX-10?

For Aero you just need a direct X 9 capable card. Radeon 9500+, and Geforce 6+

I have heard the Geforce FX series wont work because of their crappy DX9 support.

wazzledoozleFor Aero you just need a direct X 9 capable card. Radeon 9500+, and Geforce 6+

I have heard the Geforce FX series wont work because of their crappy DX9 support.

Wow... Geforce FX series not for vista, thatll loose alot of people, those are actually a pretty comon card.... How well is this thing gonna be then xp? performance wise?

dradeWow... Geforce FX series not for vista, thatll loose alot of people, those are actually a pretty comon card.... How well is this thing gonna be then xp? performance wise?

Well its not Microsoft's fault Nvidia chose to make a broken GPU line :p

I have no idea about the performance, you can download the Vista Beta's if you are really interested.

wazzledoozleFor Aero you just need a direct X 9 capable card. Radeon 9500+, and Geforce 6+

I have heard the Geforce FX series wont work because of their crappy DX9 support.

Quote "If you plan to use the Windows Aero user interface you'll have to own at least:

* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
* 1 GB of system memory.
* A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero."

It said to run regular Vista you need DX9 but if you want The "Aero" ver its different.

Vista's betas are so buggy. Tried them, they suck! Also, who cares about aero, normal interface is easy to use.... noobs.

markklebQuote "If you plan to use the Windows Aero user interface you'll have to own at least:

* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
* 1 GB of system memory.
* A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero."

It said to run regular Vista you need DX9 but if you want The "Aero" ver its different.

www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/vistarpc.mspx

DirectX 9-class GPU that supports:
A WDDM Driver
Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
32 bits per pixel
128 MB

Sorry wazz I didnt meen to argue with you. The first post makes it look like their different.

So any halfway good card will be fine.(X800,9800,etc)

Lol to lazy to download the vista, but will you notice a huge performance boost you guys think?

If there is a performance boost i'm all for it

A performance BOOST drade? Windows Vista will make performance a lot worse, due to all that 3D Aero crap, 15GB OS partition, and 1 GB system memory requirement. It's a very good thing that Vista isn't coming out until 2007, most users simply are not ready at all. I seriously think that Bill Gates needs to pull a mac and scrap the old windows in favor of something Linux based. Question- if an imac with 320MB of PC100 RAM, an ATI Riva 16MB video card, and a 400mhz (approximately) G3 can run video editing software with the same power of a 1GHZ P3 with 512MB of RAM and a 128MB Sapphire Radeon 9800SE softmodded to Sapphire Radeon 9800pro, what does that tell you about how efficient Mac OSX 10 is? If we could see that kind of efficiency in games, we'd be just fine with an FX5500. Alright guys I'm done ranting :p.

zekrahminatorA performance BOOST drade? Windows Vista will make performance a lot worse, due to all that 3D Aero crap, 15GB OS partition, and 1 GB system memory requirement. It's a very good thing that Vista isn't coming out until 2007, most users simply are not ready at all. I seriously think that Bill Gates needs to pull a mac and scrap the old windows in favor of something Linux based. Question- if an imac with 320MB of PC100 RAM, an ATI Riva 16MB video card, and a 400mhz (approximately) G3 can run video editing software with the same power of a 1GHZ P3 with 512MB of RAM and a 128MB Sapphire Radeon 9800SE softmodded to Sapphire Radeon 9800pro, what does that tell you about how efficient Mac OSX 10 is? If we could see that kind of efficiency in games, we'd be just fine with an FX5500. Alright guys I'm done ranting :p.

Lol, Im just wondering if there would be one, like from 2000 to xp, I remember those days,
15gb free on a HD, wow... thats alot

I notice HDCP and that motherboard chip are not on there, so does that mean we won't need a new monitor, video card, and motherboard after all?

Well this looks like its going to be a big barrel of fun.

Seriously though that needs some high specs just for a damn OS.

Tried the betas, buggy as f**k and you can pretty much guarantee there will be just as many if not more bugs in the thing when its released. Such is the Microsoft way.

To be honestI don't think anyone with any sense will get Vista if they can help it. XP works just fine. I am interested to see DX10 though.

Only problem is you can guarantee Microsoft will start making all their stuff 'Windows Vista Only' to force people to downgrade to vista ;)

15gb of free space???

wazzledoozleFor Aero you just need a direct X 9 capable card. Radeon 9500+, and Geforce 6+

I have heard the Geforce FX series wont work because of their crappy DX9 support.

My FX5200 works with the beta. I had to do some registry edits though, but it ran fine.

Intel, AMD, Via and SIS, have onboard chips that are Vesta combatble in the works, but as for 945G, 915G, 865G, GeForce 6150, SiS761GX and manny other will not support vesta and What about labtops? Labtops dont need nextgen desktop graphics.

POGEMy FX5200 works with the beta. I had to do some registry edits though, but it ran fine.

With Aero turned on?

i think you will really need 2gb of ram, will help much more

Well yeah its like windows XP you can run it with 256MB, but it runs best with at least 512mb-1GB of RAM. I don't know why you guys are some bummed out by direct x 10 and a new OS, why not think about the positive then thinking about how crappy the new OS will be. Does anyone else rememebr this happening before XP, everyone complained about it how much it will suck, but it seems the masses have moved to it. I see this as a good thing for the market, hardware is getting much cheaper and affordable (Just built a Pentium 805 D budget system for a friend for under $500 USD, also it is vista ready). I think from time to time the bar needs to be raised. Personally I'm pretty psyched about Vista, regardless of its holes, issues, and hardware requirements. And Also 128Mb video cards are pretty cheap now, so if your complaing about that . . . 60 bucks for a 128mb x1300, I mean common.

Yeah i agree... and you guys who dont want the eyecandy, just shut it off... you dont have to use it. You can use the old classic view from 98/Me/2k/Xp if you want... but i like the XP look, and even more the Vista look. And when the Dx10 is ready, it will make the aero much less dependant of hardware. Cause all the visuals will be on the VRam, not system ram. So if you have 128-512mb V-Ram, the Aero will use 0mb Ram...And in games, youre cpu wont be the bottleneck anymore as it is now, it will work around the gpu, not the otherway around as it is currently!!!

So stop complaining, and start burning some cash...:)