Thursday, March 1st 2012

Kepler Unbeatable: NVIDIA

The tiresome wait for NVIDIA's next-generation GPU is drawing to a close. Or so suggests a Facebook wall post by NVIDIA Italy, which reads (in Italian, of course):
Aspettando Kepler... pazienza, pazienza, pazienza che il momento giusto arriverà, e allora... non ce ne sarà più per nessuno! :-)
That can be translated as "Waiting for Kepler ... patience, patience, patience, the right time will come, and then ... it will be unbeatable (sic)." From various sources we're hearing that there will be hectic activity surrounding the launch of NVIDIA's next-gen GPU in the weeks to come.

Source: XtremeSystems Forums
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#1
1c3d0g
Aquinus said:
Well, the longer it takes for nVidia to release Kepler, the more people will buy a 7000-series AMD video card and the more time AMD has to work on their next GPU line up. nVidia might be taking a long time, but unless they can make their CUDA cores less bulky (they're big in comparison to AMD's shaders,) they're going to keep running into the same problems Fermi ran into.

Remember all the hype for Bulldozer? Hello, Kepler. :nutkick:
Don't compare that POS faildozer to Kepler. If Kepler is even half of what it's claimed, it'll be a good improvement over Fermi. Most probably it'll slaughter AMD once again, but I guess that's just too sensitive for the red fan boys, so they won't accept this.
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#2
jpierce55
Aquinus said:
...but until it does, it's just nVidia making claims without a product.
Oh, I agree. Nvidia has pulled so many dishonest stunts in the years gone by that I am not surprised they keep talking bologna now. My concern is they are about to release something worse than a Fermi..... something along the lines of the 2900xt. By that I mean something that DOES perform, but at a price and power premium. This new 7770 competitor gives me some concern on that level as well. Equal price and performance and way more power consumption.

I lean more in the direction of an AMD fan, but Nvidia does need to compete to keep pricing ~reasonable.

Icedog, considering how late it is it NEEDS to be 30% over 7xxx's to be considered a slaughter, because 8xxx's won't be far off. I don't doubt AMD would release 8xxx's a little early if Kepler is not far beyond the 7's.
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#3
Crap Daddy
Casecutter said:
The box showing it clearly over the first part of 2012
The graph is not showing months but DP Gflops per Watt. Last news April hard launch that's only 3 months after Tahiti.
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#4
erocker
Senior Moderator
AMD should just come out and say wait for HD 8XXX series. Patience, it will blow away Kepler. Meh, Nvidia is trolling and Bta... You took the bait.
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#5
EarthDog
erocker said:
AMD should just come out and say wait for HD 8XXX series. Patience, it will blow away Kepler. Meh, Nvidia is trolling and Bta... You took the bait.
But its worth $2...each and every rumor! :roll:
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#6
Thassodar
Aquinus said:


Remember all the hype for Bulldozer? Hello, Kepler. :nutkick:
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking as I read this! Bulldozer talked a lot of smack before it launched, and underperformed terribly. I sense the same for Kepler, but with a higher price tag because fanboys will pay for anything with a green logo.
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#7
EarthDog
Kepler will not be taken as a flop like BD generally is. BD couldnt find its way out of a wet paperbag in performance and power consumption. Most dont care about power consumption (I mean who the hell buys a $500 card and complains about the meager difference in their electric bill? Seriously).

My take is: Kepler will easily beat 7970, and will take up more power, and will likely be priced higher as well. So what. You get what you pay for, the best single GPU out.
fanboys will pay for anything with a green logo.
:nutkick: Seriously.. green, red, blue, doesnt matter ALL fanboys will pay for their brand. :shadedshu
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#9
erocker
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Bah, any "fanboy" just means ignorant to me. Enough of the fanboy talk already.
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#10
Crap Daddy
I kinda remember another hype that was going about the 6000 series and how they gonna smoke the hot and power hungry Fermi. Fanboys will always create hype. This time NV is extremely quiet everything you see and hear comes from speculations and fanboys. But rather sooner than later we'll know what's going on.
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#11
Fluffmeister
A Facebook post in Italian, wow you guys are really scrapping the barrel! Damn Nv stop shouting from the rooftops! :roll:

But your all waiting for Kepler, just admit it.

Hell you might be able to get a 79x0 card for a reasonable price then... maybe.
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#12
bigfish492
I want so bad a Sapphire 7950 OC so all I can say is ''Welcome Mr Kepler''...
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#13
nt300
All this talk about Kepler is only targeted to try and slow down AMDs graphics cards sales which are outselling anything in the market.
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#14
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
bigfish492 said:
I want so bad a Sapphire 7950 OC so all I can say is ''Welcome Mr Kepler''...
Then you best hope that it's not a repeat of the 5800 series situation that iirc went up a bit in price once Fermi finally dropped. Not that I'm saying I expect it to be... GTX 480 was hot, power hungry and underwhelming comparatively at the time, especially being 6 months "late". Note I am not knocking that card generally as I literally just bought one new for $200. :)
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#15
xenocide
nt300 said:
All this talk about Kepler is only targeted to try and slow down AMDs graphics cards sales which are outselling anything in the market.
Which is hilarious since the driver support for the 7xxx series is nothing short of terrible. I am willing to wait for an Nvidia solution since I have had it with AMD Drivers BSoDing during installation and failing to properly install unless I take precautions that make it take upwards of an hour to do a driver upgrade. Fermi was rushed, and was using a different design (Kepler is like an evolved Fermi) so most of the problems that presented themselves with Fermi, won't be as big, or even an issue with Kepler. If all goes according to plan at least.
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#16
Andrei23
All this is doing is hyping Kepler up. The more they do it, the more they shoot themselves in the foot if it fails to deliver on all these big promises.
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#17
Casecutter
Crap Daddy said:
The graph is not showing months but DP Gflops per Watt. Last news April hard launch that's only 3 months after Tahiti.
Good point it's only showing about the number of Gflop/w they said they could of achieve over 2012. And by that they have nothing in the market to quantify that?

Don't I look silly...:ohwell:

Andrei23 said:
All this is doing is hyping Kepler up. deliver on all these big promises.
No promises just ask for "patience, patience, patience, the right time will come, and then ... it will be unbeatable" but at what...
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#18
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Of course it will be unbeatable. It isn't hard to get out a product that is better than your competition when you wait for your competition to release theirs so you have a line in the sand set for you to cross...
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#19
xenocide
newtekie1 said:
Of course it will be unbeatable. It isn't hard to get out a product that is better than your competition when you wait for your competition to release theirs so you have a line in the sand set for you to cross...
Yea I mean it worked great for Bulldozer.
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#20
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
xenocide said:
Yea I mean it worked great for Bulldozer.
NVidia is far more competent at making powerful GPUs than AMD is at making powerful CPUs...:laugh:

It also helps if you have been in the lead the past two generations already, which AMD wasn't when Bulldozer came out, but nVidia is with Kepler.
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#21
Steevo
Make sure to stir the pot to prevent scortching or clumps.


Nvidia news is like trying to read the tp after you wipe. Find the food in the crap.
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#22
Animalpak
I think Nvidia is performing better, releases enough time between one generation and another.

AMD rather do nothing but churn GPU as a baker.
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#23
GSquadron
Who is that idiot that translated the message?
Aspettando Kepler... pazienza, pazienza, pazienza che il momento giusto arriverà, e allora... non ce ne sarà più per nessuno! :-)
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Waiting for Kepler ... patience, patience, patience, the right time will come, and then... there will be none!

Meaning they all will be sold! Is like publicity, nothing to do with kepler itself.
Open google translate see for yourself!

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#24
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Okay, everyone just stop for a second.

nVidia has not released Kepler, therefore it wins over nothing. That is all I am saying. For all of you who are saying "LOL KEPLERS SO FAST," is just talking out of their rear-end because there are no engineering samples or real sourced benchmarks to confirm any of these claims. The 7970 is here and it performs well. That is what matters right now, because until Kepler is actually release, no one will benefit from it, including nVidia.

So the next time any of you want to go bashing AMD, just remember at least their chip is already in production and in rigs as we speak.

Let's stop with the speculation and stick with the cold, hard, facts if you're going to go on a flaming rampage.
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#25
arnoo1
Who cares about power usage,
People who buy high end gpu's don't care about power usage, most hardware junkies get water blocks or aftermarket coolers

I know i can't wait and at the end of this year a will grap one, i don't care about price, my gtx275 is getting old as shit
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