Friday, June 1st 2012

DOTA 2: Free to Play Confirmed

Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today confirmed that Dota 2 will be free to play and announced the Dota Store in preparation for the game's release.

Upon its opening, the Dota Store will offer items created by Valve and members of the community that may be used immediately and carried over after the public launch of the game. Early Access to the game is not required to purchase items before launch. However, gamers may get into the game now by purchasing the Dota 2 Early Access Bundle of items.
"The opening of the Dota Store is a big part of our final push to launch," said IceFrog, design lead on Dota 2. "With support for the Steam Workshop, the majority of the items made available on day one were created and being sold by members of the community. By making the game Free to Play, we hope to give gamers the ability to decide how - and how much - they want to invest in the game."

Targeted for full release on the PC later this year, Dota 2 promises to take the unique blend of online RTS and RPG action that has made Dota popular with tens of millions of gamers around the world.

Later this summer Valve will host the International Dota 2 Championships 2012 in Seattle, WA. For more information on Valve and its games, please visit www.dota2.com
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56 Comments on DOTA 2: Free to Play Confirmed

#1
DannibusX
Easy Rhino said:
hrm im intrigued but generally these types of games suffer from nerd competitiveness. what i mean is i want to just have fun and 99% of the other players judge the worthiness of their lives on the outcome of the game.
The vast majority of the Dota community is exactly as you describe.

The game is fun as hell though, hard too.
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#2
Fourstaff
DannibusX said:

The game is fun as hell though, hard too.
Game is fun only when you know how to play the game, that is, knowing the 4 abilities of each of the 100+ heroes, knowing roughly how powerful each of the 100+ items are, and knowing which item to buy and how to skill build each hero. Also, some heroes like Lycan or VS plays almost completely different from others you absolutely need to know what to do. I haven't started on what I term "Chinese heroes" eg Windrunner, Leviathan etc, where their role is completely oblivious to anyone unless you know what to do beforehand by reading guides, watching replays etc.

The difference between pro players and noob players is that pro players will always be lucky, surviving with single digit HP, landing a perfect skill, etc.
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#3
Zubasa
Much is at stake when you make a mistake in Dota, because it is designed to reward good play and punish bad play as much as possible.
In this case LoL is better in the sense that it has a tutorial and a co-op vs AI mode which you can have fun.
Basically a large part of the community already forgot a game is meant for fun ultimately. (Note that doing crazy things in a Dota style game do ruin the fun of others.)
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#4
TheMailMan78
Big Member
btarunr said:
They're making enough money selling other studios' games.
Honestly I think they are waiting on the next gen of consoles. That way they can drop a "complete package" on the console users and the PC gamers all at once and make a HUGE splash on consoles user base. People will forget all about Halo and Uncharted when the play the HL trilogy. Any game after that people will be BEGGING for more Valve games on the console.
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#5
mrw1986
I've got about 1500 LoL games in just over a year of playing now and about 300 games of DOTA 2 and I think that LoL is just 1000x better. Graphically, LoL just works. DOTA 2 might have a slight edge in graphics, but the art style of LoL beats it out. Mechanically, LoL wins again I think. DOTA is just too boring and just doesn't bring a lot to the table for me.

Now, keep in mind this is my opinion. DOTA 2 is by no means a bad game, at all. It's just not my cup of tea.
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#6
Fourstaff
Zubasa said:

In this case LoL is better in the sense that it has a tutorial and a co-op vs AI mode which you can have fun.
Basically a large part of the community already forgot a game is meant for fun ultimately.
LoL is a very forgiving game geared towards your average gamer: easy to access, lots of space to make mistakes, and occupies the space of COD in FPS games (Battlefield will be DotA(2))

I had arguments with my friends about "fun", there are many ways a game can be "fun": most kills, highest points, etc. For me fun is the satisfaction I get when I perform my role as best as I can in the game, regardless if I lost badly.


mrw1986 said:
I've got about 1500 LoL games in just over a year of playing now and about 300 games of DOTA 2 and I think that LoL is just 1000x better. Graphically, LoL just works. DOTA 2 might have a slight edge in graphics, but the art style of LoL beats it out. Mechanically, LoL wins again I think. DOTA is just too boring and just doesn't bring a lot to the table for me.

Now, keep in mind this is my opinion. DOTA 2 is by no means a bad game, at all. It's just not my cup of tea.
LoL holds the advantage of being a more fun game until a certain skill level when DotA 2 takes over as the more entertaining game. I am well past that point, I appreciate the ability to engage and get first blood before the 1 minute mark, the ability to completely change the outcome of the game with a well placed skill, finishing a 40 game with only Boots of Speed, completely denying the gameplan of the opponent's jungler etc. These kinds of things you cannot ever do in LoL, where its about farming, farming, 1 minute teamfights around Dragon and Nashor. Come and think about it the last time I stuck to playing in a lane like how you should do was months ago.
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#7
hardcore_gamer
TheMailMan78 said:
Honestly I think they are waiting on the next gen of consoles. That way they can drop a "complete package" on the console users and the PC gamers all at once and make a HUGE splash on consoles user base. People will forget all about Halo and Uncharted when the play the HL trilogy. Any game after that people will be BEGGING for more Valve games on the console.
The real reason for not releasing HL3 is that valve doesn't like single player games anymore.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/26/no-more-valve-single-player/

May be because of Piracy.:banghead:
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#8
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
Fourstaff said:
LoL holds the advantage of being a more fun game until a certain skill level when DotA 2 takes over as the more entertaining game. I am well past that point, I appreciate the ability to engage and get first blood before the 1 minute mark, the ability to completely change the outcome of the game with a well placed skill, finishing a 40 game with only Boots of Speed, completely denying the gameplan of the opponent's jungler etc. These kinds of things you cannot ever do in LoL, where its about farming, farming, 1 minute teamfights around Dragon and Nashor. Come and think about it the last time I stuck to playing in a lane like how you should do was months ago.
I think you're using the wrong words here, by saying those are things you cannot ever do in LoL. I've seen and done those things, it's not common but if you can get fed early with a hyper carry like Trynd, thats going to be one fast game. Overall though I don't play Classic anymore, it's just not dynamic enough, I stick to dominion and roam where I please and enjoy shorter matches and fighting mostly champions without worrying a ton about playing tug of war in a lane.
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#9
Mussels
Moderprator
well if its not pay to win, them i'm all for it. gimme.
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#10
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
Mussels said:
well if its not pay to win, them i'm all for it. gimme.
I'd highly suggest playing some League of Legends just to get your bearings straight, people in these types of games are notorious ragers.
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#11
TheMailMan78
Big Member
1Kurgan1 said:
I'd highly suggest playing some League of Legends just to get your bearings straight, people in these types of games are notorious ragers.
Rangers?
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#12
NinkobEi
1Kurgan1 said:
I'd highly suggest playing some League of Legends just to get your bearings straight, people in these types of games are notorious ragers.
Only if you play during off hours (any time before about 8 PM central). I find that the later I play League of Legends, the more polite and understanding people are.

But anyway, DOTA2 has a long ways to go to compete with LoL. Last time I played, it was very clunky and there were boatloads of balance issues. Who thought it was a good idea to have a CC ability work at like 1200 range? I have no idea.
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#13
Fourstaff
1Kurgan1 said:
I think you're using the wrong words here, by saying those are things you cannot ever do in LoL. I've seen and done those things, it's not common but if you can get fed early with a hyper carry like Trynd, thats going to be one fast game. Overall though I don't play Classic anymore, it's just not dynamic enough, I stick to dominion and roam where I please and enjoy shorter matches and fighting mostly champions without worrying a ton about playing tug of war in a lane.
Its true that you can always do those things in LoL, but the metagame is against you: In DotA, if the outcome is no kill, minimal harrass, the 3 mins of non farming by your opponent's jungler is very much appreciated however in LoL it doesn't really affect the gameplay much. Also, in DotA you don't necessarily need to be fat to win the game rapidly, you just need to selectively push, land a successful gank and pick off 2 heroes, and then use the 30 second window to burst down the front door. This rarely happens below the 10-20min mark in LoL.
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#14
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Yea, I won't be playing Dota then. Until I can put "good at videogames" on a resume I will just stick with the games I can play casually. :laugh:
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#15
Xyvik
Easy Rhino said:
Yea, I won't be playing Dota then. Until I can put "good at videogames" on a resume I will just stick with the games I can play casually. :laugh:
Since it's free you should still give it a go. I've played about 50 games tops, and all of those just against the AI and I've had a blast. I get my butt kicked, even by easy AI, way more often than not, but I find the gameplay extremely addicting and keep coming back when I've got some spare time.


Also,
and I can tell you it is one of the best if not THE best F2P game out there
I must disagree. Team Fortress 2 is the best F2P game out there by rather a very large margin :laugh:


(and as for the HL2: Ep3 side-thread going, Valve stated in an interview that was 'supposedly' about Ricochet that they are constantly changing and updating games and they would prefer not to release details that might just change three months from now. Also, comparing Ep3 to D3 is such a huge mistake. Blizzard doesn't have near the track record of Valve, especially long-term)
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#16
okidna
After the store update, I got this texture corruption :



LOL :laugh::laugh: Happened with WD, VS, Zeus, and couple more..

Also, if you won a match, you'll get free item/accessories. And you'll also get free item if you got the highest kill count
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#17
Hilux SSRG
Good to hear DOTA2 is going to be F2P. I've been waiting forever to get into the Beta. Did Valve provide any release date yet?
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#18
okidna
Hilux SSRG said:
Good to hear DOTA2 is going to be F2P. I've been waiting forever to get into the Beta. Did Valve provide any release date yet?
Do you want Beta invitation? PM me if you want, I got plenty to be gifted :laugh:
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#19
Hilux SSRG
okidna said:
Do you want Beta invitation? PM me if you want, I got plenty to be gifted :laugh:
Sent you a PM. Many thanks!! :D
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#20
Fourstaff
I want a Beta key too! :D PM sent too.
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#21
popswala
the trailer looks pretty cool. I'll be keeping an eye out for this one.
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#22
okidna
Hilux SSRG said:
Sent you a PM. Many thanks!! :D
Fourstaff said:
I want a Beta key too! :D PM sent too.
Mussels said:
i'd like one
Isenstaedt said:
Me too!
Enjoy the game :laugh:

EDIT : it's all gone. popswala, Mussels, and Isenstaedt got the last 3 hehehe. Enjoy!
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#24
Isenstaedt
Me too!

Fourstaff said:
Can't wait for this game to be released, definitely an incentive to get a new rig :toast:
It uses the Source engine = low system requirements.
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#25
n-ster
1Kurgan1 said:
You obviously haven't played League of Legends. Same genre of game and it's amazing, Valve most likely had to go F2P just like every other game in that genre simply because LoL is that good, and has the best F2P model I've ever seen. The way it basically works is you Earn IP playing games, that can be used to buy Heroes and Runes. Real World money can be used to buy RP (Riot Points) those points can be used to buy IP boosts (meh not that huge of a deal) characters, or character skins. Runes are the largest IP sink in the game and you can't use RP to buy Runes. And unlocking characters through IP doesn't take that long, but if your impatient you can use RP for it. If Valve follows that model it will be great, basically all you will spend money on is cosmetic items, and spending money won't get you anything exclusive that gives you an advantage.
difference is you gotta either play a ton to try a lot of chars (or wait till they end in free week but many have been missing from free week since a long time) or you gotta pay. I do think it is fair, but DOTA brings it a step further by allowing all hereos to be played if I understand correctly (I'm a LoL player :p)
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