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Pre-ordering needs to end. It makes the market very unfair.

Originally Posted by Darksaber
people are willing to spent much more to get their hands on a PlayStation 3 right of the bat.

Typo! Should be spend!

And $1m US? No way should anyone even CONSIDER paying a tenth of that, you'd have to be really sad.

Edit: And why does that reciept only say 100? Sounds a little low.

I think what it all comes down to is that if your willing to pay that much to get one, then i guess its worth it to that person :P. It seems that the ps3 may not bomb out like a lot of people expected.

I dunno...i guess I just don't know many people who game. I don't personally know anyone who owns an xbox 360. Through my friends I know of two people that have one, otherwise, I never hear about it. The ps3 is even less known to the average "gamers" i know. Just because they sold out, doesn't mean it's going to have a sparkling future, don't they all practically sell out initially?

magibegI think what it all comes down to is that if your willing to pay that much to get one, then i guess its worth it to that person :P. It seems that the ps3 may not bomb out like a lot of people expected.

it seems so, pre-ordering should be stopped though

Anyone foolish enough to spend a grand on a PS3 has more money than brains...well at least until they pay for it. Then they have no money and no brains.

Jimmy 2004Typo! Should be spend!

And $1m US? No way should anyone even CONSIDER paying a tenth of that, you'd have to be really sad.

Edit: And why does that reciept only say 100? Sounds a little low.

1. thanx for pointing the typo out..fixed it before reading your post
2. 100 bucks is just the down payment...
3. sorry bout the edit on your post. I hit the wrong button.... :respect:

cheers
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Haha, 1,000 is a low price point on Ebay. Just sit back and watch. I work at a Gamestop and two of the employees preordered 2 of the 16 we are receiving. I wish I could have got one just to resell it.

LOL what a retard, $1m for a piece of paper, if he had the console first it would be different but still would NEVER, EVER spend $1m on a console, hilarious thing is that some idiot actually buys it then sony find a gigantic flaw in the ps3's and have to withdraw everyone of them :roll: :roll: :roll:

The guy who bought it has 0 feedback and will not be paying. (If the transaction had already occurred he would have feedback from the seller already.

Also, I work at Toys R' Us, I like being able to pre order stuff ahead of time. BUT I think the people who work at the stores should have to sign ontracts saying they will not resell the presales or items on ebay.


Edit: Also, he (The Buyer) has had One bid retraction and sence this is the only item he has bid on in the past year...

LOL people are so stupid. Why would you want a ps3 right off the back? Remember the 360 and overheating and death... yeah

The pre-order thing is a hoax, that's an original playstation on the receipt (nobody is foolish enough to sell a PS3 for $100).

How come the managers at EB games and Gamespot let their employees preorder almost all PS3s before even opening the stores? I heard some ppl were waiting in line just to hear preorders were sold out as the stores opened their doors. :wtf:

Geez, what about the consumer rights? I bet even most of those store managers preordered a couple or more PS3s to sell them off at ebay as well. :twitch:

Now ebay is flooding with ppl offering their preordered systems (not surprisingly I guess most of those offers coming from employees from both those stores) at insane prices: $1,000, $1,500 and even $1,999! :eek: Geez, consumers should boycott those stores until the managers receive the order to cancel such unethical practices! Shame on all of them :shadedshu :(

Holy shit I should have preordered one.

15th WarlockHow come the managers at EB games and Gamespot let their employees preorder almost all PS3s before even opening the stores? I heard some ppl were waiting in line just to hear preorders were sold out as the stores opened their doors. :wtf:

Geez, what about the consumer rights? I bet even most of those store managers preordered a couple or more PS3s to sell them off at ebay as well. :twitch:

Now ebay is flooding with ppl offering their preordered systems (not surprisingly I guess most of those offers coming from employees from both those stores) at insane prices: $1,000, $1,500 and even $1,999! :eek: Geez, consumers should boycott those stores until the managers receive the order to cancel such unethical practices! Shame on all of them :shadedshu :(

Thats why I said that they should make employees sign a contract, its not a bad idea at all, im just to lazy to start a petition. Toys' R Us Can also do pre orders I think, but I don't think anyone really took advantage of it.

preordering shouold stop, but if it isn't, more power to the employees for doing that

if there is loophole, it should be used, imo

retail employees don't get paid enough as it is, let them get some benefits sheesh

i_am_mustang_manpreordering shouold stop, but if it isn't, more power to the employees for doing that

if there is loophole, it should be used, imo

retail employees don't get paid enough as it is, let them get some benefits sheesh

While I agree that retail employees don't get paid enough, I don't totally agree on them getting benefits without a care for consumers rights.

To be fair, I bet a lot of ppl waiting in line to get a PS3 preorder were going to do the same thing: auction their overpriced systems over ebay, but I also bet a lot of them were kids that have been waiting a long time to preorder a PS3 for christmas.

While a lot of the guilt rests on Sony shoulders by cuttiing the amount of systems available for launch by more than half, meassures should have been taken to prevent this from happening, but with only 400,000 systems available for preorder, I guess it was inevitable that this launch was going to be a mess anyway. What a fiasco.

Unfortunately, while this didn't happen in all the stores, it happened in a lot of them, I'm not saying the employees of EB Games and Gamestop are totally guilty, the managers and owners of those stores are guilty too by: a) paying those guys a very low salary, and pushing them to these practices in order to make more money and b) Allowing these practices to take place.

As if they weren't profitting enough by buying used games from kids at $1 and then selling the same games for $15~$29 dollars.

first i am spending my monay on a 50 or so inch HD tv, then i will think about a nextgen console.

15th WarlockWhile a lot of the guilt rests on Sony shoulders by cuttiing the amount of systems available for launch by more than half, meassures should have been taken to prevent this from happening, but with only 400,000 systems available for preorder, I guess it was inevitable that this launch was going to be a mess anyway. What a fiasco.

It's not like they couldn't have been a little more moderate in processor design. They spent millions on designing the Cell, and because of it's complexity, yeilds suck. On top of all that, they hadn't even finalized all the hardware until a month or two ago. Manufacturing should have begun a few months ago, not a month and a half before launch.

rybotoIt's not like they couldn't have been a little more moderate in processor design. They spent millions on designing the Cell, and because of it's complexity, yeilds suck. On top of all that, they hadn't even finalized all the hardware until a month or two ago. Manufacturing should have begun a few months ago, not a month and a half before launch.

Yes, they should've bit the bullet and delay launch for Q1'07, but I guess the pressure was way too high, what with the Wii coming on full force at launch and Xbox360 being ahead in sales by almost a full year.

Yields of the Cell chip have not been as bad as some ppl suggest, as Sony dissabled a SPE for the PS3 and only silicon with defects on two or more SPEs, or on the PPC are not being used for the PS3, and even a lot of those chips are being saved for future use in appliances that won't need all SPEs.

The reason behind the shortages it seems, was the laser diode used for the BD drive. A lot of ppl is saying Sony should have equiped the first gen PS3s with a cheap DVD drive, and then offer an update to a BD drive later on to early adopters, just as MS is doing with HD-DVD. There are only about 2 launch games that are supposed to take advantage of the storage space of a single layer BD-ROM.

That way they could have launched about 2 months ago and at a lower entry price. Now they are following the same road Sega followed with the SegaCD, very expensive at launch and only 100,000 were available in the first batch, that made them loose the advantage they had with the Genesis to never see it again. Hope Sony isn't making the same mistake, and they have a lot more cash in their pockets than Sega did about 10 years ago.

Anyway, hindsight is always 20/20 as some say.

Just go to Sam's Club or Costco early and wait at the door for them to open. I expect that just like the 360 launch, each store will get 20+ units and they don't take pre-orders. But expect to pay $800+ since they will probably only sell them in bundles with games and controllers.

Man...its crazyness.I supose if sony decide to sell PS3 at few bucks extra , everybody would start to shout "thiefs, just a bunch of thiefs" but to be the first to get one (because beeing the first is what realy matters for your consumer society) you all are welling to spent the money and the time to stay for days at the resellers door marking your turn to get a rig that will be half priced 1 or 2 months later...Can anione tell me what thinking this people have in their little brain...OH! but dont think u r the only ones,i leave in PORTUGAL and the rich people do the same.LOL.Ill get mine also , but only after u idiots pay for its construction EH.EH.EH.

Well, Wii preorders are taking place right now, and it seems the outrage about the PS3 preorders being sod out even before opening the store doors at many locations made both EB Games Gamestop change its policies:

The ground rules for tomorrow were laid out in an email from management to store employees. Stores have been directed to open at normal hours and have been prohibited from having midnite or early opening hours. In addition, in response to last Tuesdays PlayStation 3 pre-order event, stores must give priority to customers that stand in line.

Some customers standing in line for the PlayStation 3 pre-order were told that the reservations had sold out. Traditionally some stores have given reservations to store employees, friends and high-volume buyers, but management is now discouraging that practice.

"If your store is allotted 12 units for customer reservation, and there are 12 customers waiting in front of the store at opening time, those customers must be given priority to reserve," management said in a letter to employees.

www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/12/nintendo_wii_preorder/

Too bad they didn't take action in time for the PS3 preorders :shadedshu :nutkick: :mad: