$499+ is a reasonable price if they want to compete with the consoles, however $1,469+ is not!

...This is just a ordinary PC in a smaller case running on steamOS. this is hardly a steambox.

Steam Machine = SteamOS + PC + Controller supported, isn't it?

install SteamOS or Ubuntu Linux (get steam installer)
install controller driver or via this one
and it's done.

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sweet.

This thing looks so slick. Sell the case separately pls!

Ikaruga$499+ is a reasonable price if they want to compete with the consoles, however $1,469+ is not!

But steambox/steam machine is just a PC. It is a lot more than gaming machine. I don't think it is supposed to compete with consoles.

Darklyspectre...This is just a ordinary PC in a smaller case running on steamOS. this is hardly a steambox.

But that what steambox is - just a PC with steam preinstalled and with valve controller (steamos is optional). What did you expect? Another console? It is not.

No thanks. I will build my own for $500 and install the OS and set everything up at the Linux level myself.

teheheBut steambox/steam machine is just a PC. It is a lot more than gaming machine. I don't think it is supposed to compete with consoles.

Those who understand this can just buy their hardware of choice and install everything as they see fit. So yes, if Valve wants to set foot in the living room, they will find themselves on a territory already occupied by latest-gen consoles. A very aggressive pricing would be paramount in such competition imho.

IkarugaThose who understand this can just buy their hardware of choice and install everything as they see fit. So yes, if Valve wants to set foot in the living room, they will find themselves on a territory already occupied by latest-gen consoles. A very aggressive pricing would be paramount in such competition imho.

Well the brilliant thing is Valve doesn't make any money off of those third party steam machines. Valve is just providing another platform for people to purchase games on and provide nice media center software. I can't wait to build a tight little box for steam and set it in my living room.

IkarugaThose who understand this can just buy their hardware of choice and install everything as they see fit. So yes, if Valve wants to set foot in the living room, they will find themselves on a territory already occupied by latest-gen consoles. A very aggressive pricing would be paramount in such competition imho.

Aggressive pricing promotes shit hardware. I can make you 300 usd steambox no problem. It will run any movie/music and 2d/simple 3d indie game you throw on it. Strength of a PC comes from cheaper and more powerful software so higher initial investment is offset over time by it (as compared to consoles or standard AV living room equipment). If you play a lot of games then consoles are a lot more expensive.

Easy RhinoWell the brilliant thing is Valve doesn't make any money off of those third party steam machines. Valve is just providing another platform for people to purchase games on and provide nice media center software. I can't wait to build a tight little box for steam and set it in my living room.

teheheAggressive pricing promotes shit hardware. I can make you 300 usd steambox no problem. It will run any movie/music and 2d/simple 3d indie game you throw on it. Strength of a PC comes from cheaper and more powerful software so higher initial investment is offset over time by it (as compared to consoles or standard AV living room equipment). If you play a lot of games then consoles are a lot more expensive.

You both misunderstod me I think. This is not about PCs vs Consoles and also not about what Valve has in mind with the Steambox, but about how they can gain a share on an "alien" market they are about to enter. We here are all know the good sides of PC and all the "obvious" things you are throwing at me now, but the average costumers do not! Most of them will think twice before they will give out $1500+ when they already have a SmartTV in their living room and a Tablet/Smartphone in their pockets (not to mention if they also have a last-gen console as well). This is gonna be a price/value ratio war for the casual gamers who also want to have a computer, and not the other way around, so the (deciding) "value" part here is not what you think it is (imo).

Ikaruga$499+ is a reasonable price if they want to compete with the consoles, however $1,469+ is not!

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I think TITAN is totally unnecessary for this.

A 770 GTX would bring down the price A LOT and still be very effective.

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I think TITAN is totally unnecessary for this.

A 770 GTX would bring down the price A LOT and still be very effective.

Heck, a GTX660 would be just fine. Why people think they need a modern beefy gpu card to play games at 1080p on high settings is beyond me. A low end i5 paired with 8 gigs ram, a 660 (or similar powered card) and a 256 gig ssd would make game loading times fly and run smoothing @ 1080p.

Easy RhinoHeck, a GTX660 would be just fine. Why people think they need a modern beefy gpu card to play games at 1080p on high settings is beyond me. A low end i5 paired with 8 gigs ram, a 660 (or similar powered card) and a 256 gig ssd would make game loading times fly and run smoothing @ 1080p.

Reason why I said 770 is because when I read the article and I saw TITAN, I immediately realized the purpose of this machine and the company.

I would go down as far as 760 GTX. I think these people are trying to show some eye candy on purpose to kinda "kill" that hype on gaming consoles.