Wednesday, April 23rd 2014

GeForce GTX TITAN-Z Market Availability Detailed

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btarunr
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NVIDIA's upcoming flagship graphics card, the dual-GPU GeForce GTX TITAN-Z, could see the light of the day (well, lights of a hardware store/warehouse), on April 29, 2014. That's when you'll be able to buy the card from ground stores off the shelf, or order one online. It's expected to stick to the price NVIDIA announced when it was unveiled at GTC 2014, which is a wallet-scorching US $2,999 (excl. taxes). Depending on your country's taxation and import excise, you could be paying anywhere between 10 and 33 percent over that. In Japan, for instance, the card is expected to be priced around 400,000¥ (incl. taxes), which converts to about $3,900.

The GeForce GTX TITAN-Z is a dual-GPU graphics card with a pair of 28 nm GK110 GPUs. The chips are configured to feature all 2,880 CUDA cores, 240 TMUs, and 48 ROPs at their disposal; and are each wired to 6 GB of GDDR5 memory across their 384-bit wide memory interfaces, totaling 12 GB on the card. The best part? Unlike AMD's Radeon R9 295X2, the GTX TITAN-Z is air-cooled. Just be ready with three slots in your system, and give up on your dream of equipping your ITX rig with it.
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41 Comments on GeForce GTX TITAN-Z Market Availability Detailed

#1
johnspack
Here For Good!
Dam, guess I can only run 2 of them.....
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#2
manofthem
WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
btarunrThe best part? Unlike AMD's Radeon R9 295X2, the GTX TITAN-Z is air-cooled. Just be ready with three slots in your system, and give up on your dream of equipping your ITX rig with it.[/small]
I think that complete air cooling is a much better way to go, and I'm glad Nvidia did it; I wish AMD could have.

But I'm guessing wait for a water block for your ITX system! :)
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#3
HalfAHertz
I'm sure that the 3 people that will buy this for gaming will be really happy with their purchase.
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#4
Steevo
Man, this makes me want to trade in my liquid cooling for air, since its superior!!!!


While I am at it someone please beat me over the head with a two foot pink dildo!!!
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#5
Disparia
I pay $3000 for a Titan, but for some reason I'm going to let a little metal get in my way when using it in an ITX rig? If I was that type of person I'd punch myself.

Or, I'd buy one of the available 3-slot ITX cases already available.
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#6
HumanSmoke
SteevoWhile I am at it someone please beat me over the head with a two foot pink dildo!!!
Why, did your regular quit because of carpal tunnel syndrome ?

Hard to find good help these days :eek:
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#7
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
JizzlerOr, I'd buy one of the available 3-slot ITX cases already available.
Those would be almost as big as micro-ATX small-towers (for narrow micro-ATX motherboards with 3 slots). You'd much rather just buy micro-ATX.
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#8
jigar2speed
The best part? Unlike AMD's Radeon R9 295X2, the GTX TITAN-Z is air-cooled

What the hell did i just read...
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#10
Jack1n
Im pretty sure what he meant was that the TDP is low enough that water cooling is not a must,unlike the 295x.
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#12
HalfAHertz
Ok so unfortunately you don't get access the professional drivers when you use this. And that would be a huge downer for professional users because some softwares require those drivers just to start up.

What I'd like to know is what is the non-gaming market for this? Do cuda developers need the professional drivers or can they just use the standard enthusiast ones for their work? Or is the market universities that try to do HPC calculations on these things? Again can they run their models with the less reliable enthusiast drivers?
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#13
HumanSmoke
HalfAHertzOk so unfortunately you don't get access the professional drivers when you use this. And that would be a huge downer for professional users because some softwares require those drivers just to start up
If you need professional drivers then most people would buy a cheap Quadro NVS for display, and use the GeForce card(s) for the heavy lifting (so, Quadro + ForceWare). Depends upon the application- there are plenty of CG threads that ask and address the same query. Obviously Nvidia wouldn't condone using a consumer card where they could sell a more expensive pro option, so it would be heavily application and driver revision dependant.

A lot of CG render engines and CAD software run OK with GeForce cards as it is. I'm guessing that the Titan Z would be aimed at single+double precision mixed workloads (AutoCAD for example)
HalfAHertzWhat I'd like to know is what is the non-gaming market for this? Do cuda developers need the professional drivers or can they just use the standard enthusiast ones for their work?
The CUDA toolkitincludes its own driverif you need it
HalfAHertzOr is the market universities that try to do HPC calculations on these things? Again can they run their models with the less reliable enthusiast drivers?
Quadro and Tesla are binned to offer the lowest runtime error rate, so I'd guess that if the workload was critical you'd stick with the professional cards.
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#14
GreiverBlade
btarunrThose would be almost as big as micro-ATX small-towers (for narrow micro-ATX motherboards with 3 slots). You'd much rather just buy micro-ATX.
if you say so .... ok not dust proof and it's only a 2.5slot and the Titan-z would not fit ... raaahh whatever :roll:
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#15
Vlada011
I would rather both EVGA GTX780Ti 6GB Classified x2 + CASELABS Merlin SM8 + completely watercooling system with best components than NVIDIA Titan Z.

Because that must be specific type of customer, someone who have everything and money for everything to invest 3000$ in less performance than 2xGTX780Ti 6GB Classified.
And who will buy Titan Z near GTX780Ti 6GB SLI.
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#16
blibba
Vlada011I would rather both EVGA GTX780Ti 6GB Classified x2 + CASELABS Merlin SM8 + completely watercooling system with best components than NVIDIA Titan Z.

Because that must be specific type of customer, someone who have everything and money for everything to invest 3000$ in less performance than 2xGTX780Ti 6GB Classified.
And who will buy Titan Z near GTX780Ti 6GB SLI.
It's not aimed at gamers. Yes, it can game, but the primary market is Prosumers, who'll buy it for the DP performance.
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#17
64K
blibbaIt's not aimed at gamers. Yes, it can game, but the primary market is Prosumers, who'll buy it for the DP performance.
According to Nvidia this card is a "gaming monster"

www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z

They are aiming this card at gamers. I hold to the opinion that it would be a lot cheaper to buy 2 Titan Blacks and SLI them and if someones case is too small then buying a new case and SLI capable mobo still works out to be cheaper. Chances are that if anyone has $3,000 to spend on a graphics solution then they already have very good components to begin with.

I hope they send 1 to W1zzard to bench. I have no plans to buy the card but I am curious what it's capable of doing.
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#18
Fluffmeister
Still, I think it's safe to say two Titan Blacks do fall into the category of "gaming monster".
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#20
GreiverBlade
evilacgTry Ncase M1, which is a Mini-ITX/Mini-DTX case that had 3-slot PCI space. And the size is just 160mm x 328mm x 240mm (12.5952 litre).


www.ncases.com/
www.indiegogo.com/projects/ncase-m1-mini-itx-pc-case
hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1717132
well it is not a Node304 and ... too high ;) i think i can stack 2 Node304 in the same space as that case :D ok ... 3 slot

but the day i will take a Titan Z will be the end of the world ... we are all doomed o_O
wait ... i rather take a full ATX case and 2 295X2 for the same price and even throw some more cash to get a custom loop with 2 aqua computer block so, no end of the world :laugh:

actually i have a Sugo SG09B µATX who seems to be likely the same size as that case :toast:
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#21
blibba
64KAccording to Nvidia this card is a "gaming monster"

www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z

They are aiming this card at gamers. I hold to the opinion that it would be a lot cheaper to buy 2 Titan Blacks and SLI them and if someones case is too small then buying a new case and SLI capable mobo still works out to be cheaper. Chances are that if anyone has $3,000 to spend on a graphics solution then they already have very good components to begin with.

I hope they send 1 to W1zzard to bench. I have no plans to buy the card but I am curious what it's capable of doing.
Marketing bumf for the gullible and/or very rich (quad SLI?). The sensible use case for this card makes Titan Black SLI the only sensible comparison, and on that one (as opposed to 780Ti), I can agree with you - there are a few workstations out there with room for two of these but not 4 Titans, or room for 1 of these but not 2 Titans.
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#23
acekombatkiwi1
GreiverBladewell it is not a Node304 and ... too high ;) i think i can stack 2 Node304 in the same space as that case :D ok ... 3 slot

but the day i will take a Titan Z will be the end of the world ... we are all doomed o_O
wait ... i rather take a full ATX case and 2 295X2 for the same price and even throw some more cash to get a custom loop with 2 aqua computer block so, no end of the world :laugh:

actually i have a Sugo SG09B µATX who seems to be likely the same size as that case :toast:
Actually you can fit the Ncase M1 in the Node 304. Node 304 Case dimensions (W x H x D): 250 x 210 x 374 mm, Ncase M1 Case dimensions (W x H x D): 160 x 240 x 328 mm
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#24
heydan83
HalfAHertzI'm sure that the 3 people that will buy this for gaming will be really happy with their purchase.
I think they will be sad when they realize that a GTX Titan Black SLI solution perform the same or even better spending $1000 less.
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#25
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Vlada011I would rather both EVGA GTX780Ti 6GB Classified x2 + CASELABS Merlin SM8 + completely watercooling system with best components than NVIDIA Titan Z.

Because that must be specific type of customer, someone who have everything and money for everything to invest 3000$ in less performance than 2xGTX780Ti 6GB Classified.
And who will buy Titan Z near GTX780Ti 6GB SLI.
If your only concern is gaming sure.
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