Monday, August 15th 2016

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Equipped with Fewer CUDA Cores

NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB is a little more than a variant of last month's GTX 1060 with half the memory. The SKU is positioned to compete with the Radeon RX 480 4 GB, at a price-point close to $200, and is expected to feature fewer CUDA cores. NVIDIA could even have a crack at $199. While the 6 GB variant launched last month features 1,280 CUDA cores spread across 10 streaming multiprocessors (SM), the 3 GB variant will feature 1,152 CUDA cores across 9 SM. This could also lower the TMU count from 80 to 72. The clock speeds appear to be unchanged, with the GPU core being clocked at 1506 MHz, with 1709 MHz GPU Boost, and 8 GHz (GDDR5-effective) memory, churning up 192 GB/s of memory bandwidth.
Sources: WCCFTech, ITHome
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55 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Equipped with Fewer CUDA Cores

#26
medi01
NaitoNvidia's naming schemes never make sense. Normally they use some sort of suffix/prefix to denote a variant - this one just says '3GB'. An end-user could easily assume that the only difference between this and the GTX 1060 6GB is the memory capacity and end up with a lesser GPU.
I guess 3.5Gb 970 (yeah yeah, "it didn't matter", US judges think it is, 30$ is the cost) didn't teach them a lesson.
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#27
dyonoctis
Mmmmh...only 128 cuda core less...the full 1060 was already faster than a 480, so this one would be slitghly slower than a 480 at stock, and faster with the 2Ghz Oc. The pricing will be the point were everything will be decided.
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#28
GhostRyder
Call it the 1060 SE and all will be good. At least it will denote a difference because just calling it the 1060 3gb is not enough to let consumers know what else is different.

Either way though, even though we know its going to be below the 1060 6gb, its only going to matter alot comparing how much performance it actually has.
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#29
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
dyonoctisMmmmh...only 128 cuda core less...the full 1060 was already faster than a 480, so this one would be slitghly slower than a 480 at stock, and faster with the 2Ghz Oc. The pricing will be the point were everything will be decided.
Apparently only the minority overclock, so possibly slightly slower with less memory for possibly a little more price..... success! :D
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#30
ZeppMan217
Tatty_OneWhilst you are quite possibly right, they won't sell many at that price because based on these specs I doubt that this 1060 will match the 480, even if it does (just) the lesser memory will put many off.
Don't you think the very reason they decided to cut the specs is because they can compete with RX480 even with those cuts?
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#31
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
ZeppMan217Don't you think the very reason they decided to cut the specs is because they can compete with RX480 even with those cuts?
Well time will tell of course, even if the card is equally as fast, even if the card is the exact same price it still has less memory and some could argue therefore technically it would not compete, if it does then well done to them, ultimately sales will show.
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#32
Captain_Tom
I have to say that I don't understand why so many people are saying things like "And yet this will outsell the 480 2:1."


I mean it could, sure (No one here can predict the future). But right now it seems like the 480/470 are selling WAY better than the 1060.

Comments from people working retail said they had dozens more 480's being supplied to stores compared to 1080's/1070's, and new rumors tell of shipments of 100,000 480's on boats from China. Also look at newegg: 480 CONSTANTLY sold out, 470 near-constant out-of-stock, and there are always 1 or 2 1060 models for sale.

From where I am sitting Polaris looks like the roaring success AMD needed. They are flooding the market and yet can't keep them in stock.
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#33
ensabrenoir
^ anybody know of any actual sales data?
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#34
jabbadap
ZeppMan217Don't you think the very reason they decided to cut the specs is because they can compete with RX480 even with those cuts?
Performance vice this should go against RX 470, though if it beats RX 480 then it beats(Probably some dx11 game it will beat it).

I don't really know how much gtx1060 costs on china. But those chinese oddball sites says 1999¥ for gtx1060 6GB and 1499¥ for 3GB(Domestic price so I assume 17% VAT included, so that would be 202€ including VAT for 3GB version and 6GB version 270€ inc. VAT). RX 470 is ~210€ inc. VAT in Europe so I expect this one to be close that too. Hopefully we see some price war...
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#35
Octavean
IMO there is plenty of room in the market for the the GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB. Especially since the GTX 1060 6GB and RX 480 (4GB and 8GB) are like hens teeth. If you find one it will probably be at inflated prices. The GTX 1060 6GB and RX 480 may be the new cards but they are quickly becoming old news well before the masses are able to get their hands on them.

Maybe when the GTX 1100 series comes out there will be plenty of GTX 1060 series cards
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#36
Nordic
If they price it right, to have leading price/performance this may be my next gpu.

I am looking for a lower power usage side grade from my 970 I managed to sell for an unreasonably good price.
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#37
Grings
I think this is the original 1060 nvidia had in mind (but probably with 6gb), but they released what was going to be the 1060ti instead when they saw the rx480 looked slightly better
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#38
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
I'm waiting for a super weedy "GT 1010" with a tiny Pascal core and an even tinier price to play around with. :) Alas, it may never happen, because IGPs have that level of rendering power nowadays.
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#39
Dimi
Captain_TomI have to say that I don't understand why so many people are saying things like "And yet this will outsell the 480 2:1."


I mean it could, sure (No one here can predict the future). But right now it seems like the 480/470 are selling WAY better than the 1060.

Comments from people working retail said they had dozens more 480's being supplied to stores compared to 1080's/1070's, and new rumors tell of shipments of 100,000 480's on boats from China. Also look at newegg: 480 CONSTANTLY sold out, 470 near-constant out-of-stock, and there are always 1 or 2 1060 models for sale.

From where I am sitting Polaris looks like the roaring success AMD needed. They are flooding the market and yet can't keep them in stock.
Can you do me a favor and count how many newegg user reviews the most sold RX480 and GTX 1060 have?

I'll spare you the trouble,

$259.99 EVGA GTX 1060 SC = 49 reviews (aftermarket) Zero 1 and 2 star reviews
$239.99 Powercolor RX480 = 25 reviews (reference) Six 1 star reviews.

It seems to me, from seeing the amount of reviews on most of the cards, nvidia is outselling amd by quite a margin.
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#40
dj-electric
ViperXTRUh so this is not the GTX 1050? Or GTX 1050 be 128bit and 2GB instead?
If I would have to imagine a gtx1050 / Ti sku it will feature 768 cores and 4gb of gddr5 memory on a 128bit controller with a smaller brother running with 512 cores
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#41
TheoneandonlyMrK
btarunrNVIDIA's upcoming GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB is a little more than a variant of last month's GTX 1060 with half the memory. The SKU is positioned to compete with the Radeon RX 480 4 GB, at a price-point close to $200, and is expected to feature fewer CUDA cores. NVIDIA could even have a crack at $199. While the 6 GB variant launched last month features 1,280 CUDA cores spread across 10 streaming multiprocessors (SM), the 3 GB variant will feature 1,152 CUDA cores across 9 SM. This could also lower the TMU count from 80 to 72. The clock speeds appear to be unchanged, with the GPU core being clocked at 1506 MHz, with 1709 MHz GPU Boost, and 8 GHz (GDDR5-effective) memory, churning up 192 GB/s of memory bandwidth.


Sources: WCCFTech, ITHome
Bit mental tagging it as a 1060 imho.
Oops nearly a misquote.
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#42
Basard
How bout.... 1080 Vanta?!?!
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#43
xorbe
btarunrNVIDIA's upcoming GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB is a little more than a variant of last month's GTX 1060 ...
Well ... is a little less than ... ba-dum, tsh!
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#44
dwade
This "gimped POS" will still smoke a fully-loaded Polaris. Reality sucks.
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#45
Captain_Tom
DimiCan you do me a favor and count how many newegg user reviews the most sold RX480 and GTX 1060 have?

I'll spare you the trouble,

$259.99 EVGA GTX 1060 SC = 49 reviews (aftermarket) Zero 1 and 2 star reviews
$239.99 Powercolor RX480 = 25 reviews (reference) Six 1 star reviews.

It seems to me, from seeing the amount of reviews on most of the cards, nvidia is outselling amd by quite a margin.
Haha the number of user reviews mean absolutely nothing compared to what I said. Look no method is scientific (We need actual sales data), but I have seen plenty of retailers say they had 10 - 25x as many 480's for sale... And they are all sold out.

P.S. As for the 1 star reviews. LOL when an AMD customer has a card break they tend to complain. When an Nvidia/EVGA customer has a card break they give the card 5/5 stars for "Great customer service". I have never figured out why EVGA fans see a broken card as a plus, but they seem to.
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#46
Captain_Tom
dwadeThis "gimped POS" will still smoke a fully-loaded Polaris. Reality sucks.
When? 480 = 1060. In Vulkan the 480 is 32% stronger lmfao!
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#47
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
Captain_TomWhen? 480 = 1060. In Vulkan the 480 is 32% stronger lmfao!
I continue to admire the performance focus on a few DX12 titles in relation to the hundreds of DX11 games that people are playing, let alone all of those probably millions that are gaming with Windows 7 and 8 where DX12 does not even factor, personally I think the competition is good for everyone but it would not sit easy with me to recommend to a friend on Windows 8 the 480 based on your specific pitch, and I happen to think the 480 is a fine card.
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#48
Nergal
What a piece of cr*p.

You have to be INSANE to prefer that above the x480 4GB.

Costs more and is slower.
Then there is the 3GB....

Perhaps it will compete with the x470, but not the x480.

At this point I think a 970 will be a better buy than a 1060 3GB
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#49
Assimilator
NergalWhat a piece of cr*p.

You have to be INSANE to prefer that above the x480 4GB.

Costs more and is slower.
Then there is the 3GB....

Perhaps it will compete with the x470, but not the x480.

At this point I think a 970 will be a better buy than a 1060 3GB
It will compete with RX 480 in non-memory-constrained situations, i.e. lower resolutions/no AA. But yeah, 3GB graphics memory is quite low for a product in 2016. I agree that a GTX 970 is probably a better buy, since it has more graphics memory and can be got for quite a bit cheaper, especially if you go second-hand.
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#50
medi01
Reviewers complain about 4Gb on 470 not being enough, wonder what will be said about 3 Gb.

Could this "less CUDA" thing result from... yield problems?
Captain_TomI have to say that I don't understand why so many people are saying things like "And yet this will outsell the 480 2:1."


I mean it could, sure (No one here can predict the future). But right now it seems like the 480/470 are selling WAY better than the 1060.

Comments from people working retail said they had dozens more 480's being supplied to stores compared to 1080's/1070's, and new rumors tell of shipments of 100,000 480's on boats from China. Also look at newegg: 480 CONSTANTLY sold out, 470 near-constant out-of-stock, and there are always 1 or 2 1060 models for sale.

From where I am sitting Polaris looks like the roaring success AMD needed. They are flooding the market and yet can't keep them in stock.
What you describe could also be just shortages of AMD chips.
At least in EU, 480 is nowhere to be had, while there are plenty (overpriced) 470 AIBs.
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