Thursday, September 29th 2016

NVIDIA Preparing GeForce GTX 1080 Ti for 2017 CES Launch

NVIDIA is preparing its next high-end graphics card under the GeForce GTX brand, the GTX 1080 Ti, for launch along the sidelines of the 2017 International CES, early next January. The card will be positioned between the $599-$699 GeForce GTX 1080, and the $1199 TITAN X Pascal, and will be based on the 16 nm "GP102" silicon.

Chinese tech publication Zol.com.cn reports a few possible specifications of the SKU, adding to what we know from an older report. NVIDIA is carving the GTX 1080 Ti out from the GP102 silicon by enabling 26 out of 30 streaming multiprocessors, resulting in a CUDA core count of 3,328. This sets the TMU count at 208. The ROP count is unchanged at 96. The card features a 384-bit wide GDDR5X memory interface (and not the previously-thought GDDR5). It will have an identical memory bandwidth to the TITAN X Pascal, of 480 GB/s. The card will feature 12 GB of standard memory amount. Its GPU clock speeds are expected to be 1503 MHz core, with 1623 MHz GPU Boost.

Source: Zol.com.cn
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50 Comments on NVIDIA Preparing GeForce GTX 1080 Ti for 2017 CES Launch

#1
Estaric
So real price is gonna be 850-900?
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#2
efikkan
I'm so much looking forward to this.

I'll probably grab an EVGA 1080 Ti.
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#3
ppn
The source mentions DDR5 without X. And no pricing.
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#4
Captain_Tom
Hmmm. Yep unsurprisingly Nvidia sees no reason to release this until Vega is out.


I expect a Vega paper launch around this cards release date.
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#5
bogami
Like every year, will once again Ti model is based on a the failed cut processors !, and that such trash then sold so expensive is the crime ! We can expect an even better performance then Titan X pascal (is also the failed cutout ! with This year a removed circuits on board as well .) ! A performance is the good. and we can expect the panel with higher frequencies and salted price from cooperatives (MSI ASUS ..).
In AMD, at least they do not sell such a processor as a superior product because it is not and get a proper cut the whole article without missing circuits . Anyway I have to exchange my graphics and AMD, there is no competing products and that s rely bothers me.
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#6
the54thvoid
Captain_Tom said:
Hmmm. Yep unsurprisingly Nvidia sees no reason to release this until Vega is out.


I expect a Vega paper launch around this cards release date.
I would love to see a Vega paper launch, prior to the hard launch with pricing such that Nvidia will be forced to lower their MSRP. AMD may however choose to 'ape' Nvidia's pricing if they believe Vega will top Titan X or 1080ti. From the 7970 onwards, AMD's top card has always been closer to Nvidia than we were used to in the 48xx and 58xx days.
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#7
Steve1080
The source ZOL is full of bull****, I don't trust anything it says unless when it steals news from other sources which are more trustworthy.
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#8
Captain_Tom
the54thvoid said:
I would love to see a Vega paper launch, prior to the hard launch with pricing such that Nvidia will be forced to lower their MSRP. AMD may however choose to 'ape' Nvidia's pricing if they believe Vega will top Titan X or 1080ti. From the 7970 onwards, AMD's top card has always been closer to Nvidia than we were used to in the 48xx and 58xx days.
If Vega 10 has a 1500 MHz clock and 768 GB/s HBM it will stand a good chance of matching or beating the Titan. However if it only has 512 GB/s and 1400MHz it will just be in-between the 1080 and Titan (Although probably winning in DX12/Vulkan). It all comes down to price too - if AMD can price the weaker option at $500 then it will be worth giving up the performance crown by a measly 10%.


Personally I think a lot of these tech sites are making a MAJOR logic error when it comes to these leaks. Up until now we have kept hearing 1 TB/s and 8GB for Vega specs. The current leaks are for the PROFESSIONAL version of Vega cards, and as such it would make sense if it had less bandwidth but more RAM. I expect:

-Firepro Vega = 1400MHz, 512 GB/s, 16GB HBM2, January - February launch
-RX Fury Vega = 1500MHz, 768 - 1TB /s, 8GB HBM2, February - March launch
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#9
xorbe
Perhaps they pushed the Titan price up, so they don't have to push the 1080 price down as usual.
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#10
Captain_Tom
xorbe said:
Perhaps they pushed the Titan price up, so they don't have to push the 1080 price down as usual.
Honestly even at $1000 the Titan's have always sold incredibly well, and supply was an issue.

Then Nvidia tried selling a Titan for $3000 and everyone laughed (It was just a terrible card in general).

So now they are trying $1200. If supply is an issue they will try $1500 next time.
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#12
64K
Captain_Tom said:
Honestly even at $1000 the Titan's have always sold incredibly well, and supply was an issue.

Then Nvidia tried selling a Titan for $3000 and everyone laughed (It was just a terrible card in general).

So now they are trying $1200. If supply is an issue they will try $1500 next time.
The $3,000 Titan Z that you are referring to was a dual GPU GK110 card and it was indeed laughable since you could buy a pair of Titan Blacks that outperformed it for about $1,000 less.

Nvidia is so predictable and yet people still struggle with their formula. Release the Titan version first for an inflated price and then release the x80 Ti for what looks like a reasonable price in comparison but really isn't a reasonable price. Going all the way back to Kepler there were people on tech sites posting that the GTX 680 was the Flagship Kepler as far as a gaming GPU and there would be no other strictly gaming high end GPU similar to the Titan and some were saying buy the Titan for these reasons. The 680 was a mid range GPU and you had to look no further than W1zzard's review of it to clearly see that. From his GTX 680 review closing page:

"Technically we'd have to compare it to GTX 560 Ti, not GTX 580."

Right here on TPU were some well respected members saying that Nvidia wouldn't release a high end 1080 Ti GPU even a few months ago.
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#13
Captain_Tom
$ReaPeR$ said:
Deja Vu..
Haha this is worse than before lol. Now it has the same amount of ram and will likely perform within 2% of the Titan.
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#14
$ReaPeR$
Captain_Tom said:
Haha this is worse than before lol. Now it has the same amount of ram and will likely perform within 2% of the Titan.
most probably, yes. but with a 900$ price to match.
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Captain_Tom
64K said:
The $3,000 Titan Z that you are referring to was a dual GPU GK110 card and it was indeed laughable since you could buy a pair of Titan Blacks that outperformed it for about $1,000 less.

Nvidia is so predictable and yet people still struggle with their formula. Release the Titan version first for an inflated price and then release the x80 Ti for what looks like a reasonable price in comparison but really isn't a reasonable price. Going all the way back to Kepler there were people on tech sites posting that the GTX 680 was the Flagship Kepler as far as a gaming GPU and there would be no other strictly gaming high end GPU similar to the Titan and some were saying buy the Titan for these reasons. The 680 was a mid range GPU and you had to look no further than W1zzard's review of it to clearly see that. From his GTX 680 review closing page:

"Technically we'd have to compare it to GTX 560 Ti, not GTX 580."

Right here on TPU were some well respected members saying that Nvidia wouldn't release a high end 1080 Ti GPU even a few months ago.
Haha ikr. The 680 is a funny story in itself - Nvidia thought it would beat the 7970 easily, but didn't realize that AMD had simply rushed the card out before the drivers were ready. By the end of 2012 AMD had added a full 20%+ performance through drivers, and by now the 680 indeed performs about at 7870 levels.


As for the Titan, I always found it comical. Nvidia somehow convinced everyone that the Titan series was a series separate from the normal graphics cards, and that if you bought one you would have the strongest card available for 2 years straight. However it was only 40% stronger than the 7970 GHz!, and so how anyone could believe that 40% would make it the strongest for 2 years is beyond me.

The sad fact is that Nvidia COULD make a card worthy of the name "Titan", they just have chosen not to. If the OG Titan in early 2013 had 3072 Cores, 6GB of 7000 MHz GDDR5, 1200MHz core clocks, and dual 8-pin connectors it would have been the strongest card until 2015.

Even now they COULD have released a Titan card with 16GB HBM2, 3840 Cores, 2000 MHz core clocks, and dual 8-pins that just destroys everything for years to come. I would have payed $1000 for it too...
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#16
Ferrum Master
Calm down TPU peps, nothing to see here... just yellow press. And grab some popcorn.
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#17
Fluffmeister
They could release this tomorrow, but as it stands there is zero need.

AMD have the $1500 Rad Pro if you bleed red ladies, and many here do.
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#18
ixi
Nvidia here comes with 1k expensive GPU, haha. I remember when i got 980 TI for 600 euros and I was happy :D
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#19
Prima.Vera
12GB seems like overkill, moreover a slap in the face of existing Titan users...
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#20
Captain_Tom
Prima.Vera said:
12GB seems like overkill, moreover a slap in the face of existing Titan users...
384-bit means they didn't have a choice (6GB isn't enough). 320-bit 10GB is an option, but they would be artificially limiting it then - and they can't nerf it because then Vega will beat it.
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#21
Prima.Vera
Captain_Tom said:
... - and they can't nerf it because then Vega will beat it.
Neh, that's just speculation. The latest rumours regarding Vega were placing it between 1080 and 1070, but then again, rumours. Rumours and speculations everywhere.
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#22
MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
bogami said:
Like every year, will once again Ti model is based on a the failed cut processors !, and that such trash then sold so expensive is the crime ! We can expect an even better performance then Titan X pascal (is also the failed cutout ! with This year a removed circuits on board as well .) ! A performance is the good. and we can expect the panel with higher frequencies and salted price from cooperatives (MSI ASUS ..).
In AMD, at least they do not sell such a processor as a superior product because it is not and get a proper cut the whole article without missing circuits . Anyway I have to exchange my graphics and AMD, there is no competing products and that s rely bothers me.
Wtf did you just say.
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#23
Captain_Tom
Prima.Vera said:
Neh, that's just speculation. The latest rumours regarding Vega were placing it between 1080 and 1070, but then again, rumours. Rumours and speculations everywhere.
Haha what rumors? You put 12 TF / 512 GB/s GCN 4.0 UNDER a 1080? Do you have Bitcoin or Paypal because I would love to bet you ;).

LMAO the Fury X already trades blows with the 1070, and the rumors are essentially a Fury X clocked 40% faster.
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#24
Captain_Tom
MxPhenom 216 said:
Wtf did you just say.
I actually do get what he is saying. But it was quite funny.
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#25
gasolina
I just check on duderamdom84 on utube the titan x pascal OC < 1080 SLI df 25% in term of fps, so pretty much 1070 SLI > 1080TI oc around 10% though........
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