Wednesday, January 4th 2017

No GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Announcement at CES

When NVIDIA bought itself the 2017 International CES keynote, the expectations were through the roof. The company announced GeForce Now, a service that lets just about anyone play games on their PC without the necessary hardware, by streaming them from remote GPU farms that you rent; a new-generation NVIDIA Shield, which now comes with 4K HDR video support; NVIDIA Spot, a tiny IoT microphone that takes Google Assistant to the far reaches of your home; and some big-ticket announcements in the way of the company's self-driving cars initiative that taps into AI deep-learning.

The announcement hundreds of thousands of users thronged to Twitch for, and the announcement we in non-US time-zones stayed up late at night for, was surprisingly missing - the company did not announce the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. The GTX 1080 Ti is expected to be NVIDIA's new high-end SKU positioned between the GTX 1080 and the TITAN X Pascal, bringing 4K Ultra HD gaming to even more people. Perhaps NVIDIA feels it's already dug in deep with the $599 GTX 1080 and the $1299 TITAN X Pascal, that it doesn't need a faster card that's pricier to build at this time.

The focus now shifts to the AMD camp, where later today, the company is expected to make big announcements specific to its next-generation "Vega" GPU architecture. Since AMD isn't spending nearly as much money earned from PC gamers on non-PC gaming stuff, AMD's announcements are expected to be more relevant to the people who watched NVIDIA's live-stream.
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53 Comments on No GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Announcement at CES

#1
blu3flannel
Well that's a little disappointing. Hopefully AMD's Vega GPUs offer a competitive (and affordable) alternative in that performance bracket.
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#2
theonedub
habe fidem
That keynote shoved AI down our throats. Its only Jan and I would be OK not hearing about AI at all for the remainder of 2017 :laugh:
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#3
gigantor21
btarunr said:
Since AMD isn't spending nearly as much money earned from PC gamers on non-PC gaming stuff, AMD's announcements are expected to be more relevant to the people who watched NVIDIA's live-stream.
Do I detect just a twinge of bitterness? :p

Can't say that I blame you, though. That keynote was a slog with no real payoff.
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#5
Kohl Baas
My guess is, they couldn't fine-tune the settings againt the VEGA cards, because AMD made a pretty good job regarding the NDA.
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#6
renz496
overall it's better presentation than the one they did last year. at least they still talk a bit of gaming this time. last year CES? it is strictly about AI and self driving car only.
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#7
Camm
Ti will be a reactionary card against Vega, priced and core counted against what Vega highend is.
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#8
renz496
Kohl Baas said:
My guess is, they couldn't fine-tune the settings againt the VEGA cards, because AMD made a pretty good job regarding the NDA.
also AMD don't even have real competitor to 1080 on the market yet so they don't need to rush 1080ti to the market.
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#9
Camm
renz496 said:
also AMD don't even have real competitor to 1080 on the market yet so they don't need to rush 1080ti to the market.
That being said, they do risk losing Ti sales from enthusiasts moving up from 980 Ti's and 1080's depending on where Vega lands.
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#10
renz496
Camm said:
That being said, they do risk losing Ti sales from enthusiasts moving up from 980 Ti's and 1080's depending on where Vega lands.
i dare to bet many will wait for 1080ti first before jumping on vega.
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#11
Camm
renz496 said:
i dare to bet many will wait for 1080ti first before jumping on vega.
That is certainly one bracket, but I've seen a strong pickup of people flipping cards as soon as something faster is out to try and preserve resale value as much as possible. This is especially pertinent since a good chunk of the world can't buy Titan-X-P.
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#12
Prima.Vera
Camm said:
Ti will be a reactionary card against Vega, priced and core counted against what Vega highend is.
Indeed. You'll see this announcement 1 week after AMD's one, if their top card beats or equals the 1080.
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#13
the54thvoid
Odd how a CES keynote doesn't mention something and then news is posted about the 'missing' part even though it isn't missing because it was never intended to be spoken of. Like AMD didn't mention potatoes.
However, FWIW, technically 1080ti is boring. We know it's weaker than Titan X in core count and that Titan X under water hits about 2000Mhz.

Vega. That's what people, even Nvidia people are really interested in.

Bring it to us!
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#14
Xzibit
Lets hope AMD doesn't announce RyZen + Vega at $25 per 20hrs
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#15
RejZoR
So, "VR" was the pointless buzzword for 2016, for 2017, it'll apparently be "AI"...
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#16
ppn
Maybe just call it 1180 and release it in July. Following the 680-780-780Ti pattern.
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#17
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
So NVIDIA couldn't be bothered with a flagship 1080 Ti card that there's pent up demand for? They must really not be afraid of AMD. :shadedshu:

Hopefully AMD will surprise everybody and release a card that handily beats the 1080 and forces NVIDIA's hand, but I'm not holding my breath.
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#18
cryohellinc
lol the amount of ignorant people in the comments. 1080Ti will come as soon as AMD releases Vega. It will sit above Vega and below Titan Pascal. Question is - prices.
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#19
dbc
well... NVIDIA trolled us for months on the 1080 ti. I held off christmas just for this. They lost my business. Im goin AMD.
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#20
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Not sure why people are puzzled or upset by this. Until/if AMD can match or exceed 1080, there is zero reason for NVIDIA to release a Ti. They've used that the last couple of gens as a big F#*k you, essentially saying "oh yeah? Top THIS!"

But that situation does not exist. And if it doesn't come to pass that AMD is competing with the 1080, then we won't even see a Ti this gen.
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#21
dbc
i guess they dont like money. people with a 980 ti like me were ready to drop $750 on a "1080 ti" but i see no benefit in dropping $650 on a regular 1080 when there is little improvement over the 980 ti.

edit: if AMD drops the rx 490 soon they got my money. screw nvidia.
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#22
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
dbc said:
i guess they dont like money. people with a 980 ti like me were ready to drop $750 on a "1080 ti" but i see no benefit in dropping $650 on a regular 1080 when there is little improvement over the 980 ti.
It is the 1070 that is only a little improvement. The 1080 easily beats the 980Ti. I'm there with you though. I'm at the plateau for a generation, and don't really want to step down a level. It becomes even harder to climb back up to a flagship later.
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#23
dbc
rtwjunkie said:
It is the 1070 that is only a little improvement. The 1080 easily beats the 980Ti. I'm there with you though. I'm at the plateau for a generation, and don't really want to step down a level. It becomes even harder to climb back up to a flagship later.
its only a 30% improvement. thats not worth $650 to me. the 1080 ti was going to be almost a 60-70% improvement over the fake leaked specs.
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#24
the54thvoid
dbc said:
well... NVIDIA trolled us for months on the 1080 ti. I held off christmas just for this. They lost my business. Im goin AMD.
Point one: Nvidia didn't troll anyone. We keep doing that in forums and by listening to rumours sites like Videocardz and WCCFTech.
Point two: You held off christmas for this, you're going AMD. So you'll go AMD with what? A RX480? Because Vega is vaporware as we speak. It's not out and it's still some way off, otherwise, they'd have announced it formally. And guess what, wait for Vega because that's when we 'might' see a 1080ti.
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#25
Ungari
the54thvoid said:
Point one: Nvidia didn't troll anyone. We keep doing that in forums and by listening to rumours sites like Videocardz and WCCFTech.
Point two: You held off christmas for this, you're going AMD. So you'll go AMD with what? A RX480? Because Vega is vaporware as we speak. It's not out and it's still some way off, otherwise, they'd have announced it formally. And guess what, wait for Vega because that's when we 'might' see a 1080ti.
Perhaps it's because the RX 490 was supposed to be a Polaris chip, and not Vega.
While the RX 490 has been rumored for way too long without confirmation, whatever tier Radeon used in the Star Wars demo; they are calling that Vega.
While the engine used for Battlefront is not difficult for most cards to run at High settings, it was impressive to see that Vega demo run 4K resolution on Ultra at 60fps.
I have never heard anyone call Vega "vaporware" until now. That is an interesting take on the delays.
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