Wednesday, July 26th 2017

AMD Reports Second Quarter 2017 Financial Results

AMD today announced revenue for the second quarter of 2017 of $1.22 billion, operating income of $25 million, and net loss of $16 million, or $(0.02) per share. On a non-GAAP basis, operating income was $49 million, net income was $19 million, and earnings per share was $0.02.

"Our second quarter results demonstrate strong growth driven by leadership products and focused execution," said Dr. Lisa Su, AMD president and CEO. "Our Ryzen desktop processors, Vega GPUs, and EPYC datacenter products have received tremendous industry recognition. We are very pleased with our improved financial performance, including double digit revenue growth and year-over-year gross margin expansion on the strength of our new products."
Q2 2017 Results
  • On a GAAP basis, revenue was $1.22 billion, up 19 percent year-over-year, driven by higher revenue in the Computing and Graphics segment. Revenue was up 24 percent sequentially, driven by increased sales in both business segments. Gross margin was 33 percent, up 2 percentage points year-over-year due to a richer product mix and a higher percentage of revenue from the Computing and Graphics segment, driven by the first full quarter of Ryzen processor sales. On a sequential basis, gross margin declined 1 percentage point due to a higher percentage of revenue from the Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment. Operating income was $25 million compared to an operating loss of $8 million a year ago and an operating loss of $29 million in the prior quarter. Net loss was $16 million compared to net income of $69 million a year ago and a net loss of $73 million in the prior quarter. Loss per share was $0.02 compared to diluted earnings per share of $0.08 a year ago (which included a pre-tax gain of $150 million related to our ATMP JV transaction) and a loss per share of $0.08 in the prior quarter.
  • On a non-GAAP(1) basis, operating income was $49 million compared to operating income of $3 million a year ago and an operating loss of $6 million in the prior quarter. Net income was $19 million compared to a net loss of $40 million a year ago and a net loss of $38 million in the prior quarter. Diluted earnings per share was $0.02 compared to a loss per share of $0.05 a year ago and a loss per share of $0.04 in the prior quarter.
  • Cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities were $844 million at the end of the quarter, compared to $943 million in the prior quarter.
Quarterly Financial Segment Summary
  • Computing and Graphics segment revenue was $659 million, up 51 percent year-over-year, driven by demand for graphics and Ryzen desktop processors.
  • Operating income was $7 million, compared to an operating loss of $81 million in Q2 2016. The year-over-year improvement was driven primarily by higher revenue and improved product mix.
  • Client average selling price (ASP) increased significantly year-over-year, as desktop processor ASP increased due to the first full quarter of Ryzen processor shipments.
  • GPU ASP increased year-over-year.
  • Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment revenue was $563 million, down 5 percent year-over-year primarily due to lower semi-custom SoC sales. In the quarter, AMD reached an important milestone by recognizing initial revenue from EPYC datacenter processor shipments.
  • Operating income was $42 million, compared to operating income of $84 million in Q2 2016. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to lower revenue and higher datacenter related R&D investments.
  • All Other operating loss was $24 million compared with an operating loss of $11 million in Q2 2016. The year-over-year difference in operating loss was related to stock-based compensation charges and a $7 million restructuring credit in Q2 2016.
Q2 2017 Highlights
  • AMD launched its new "Zen" architecture-based EPYC 7000 series processors, returning innovation and choice to the x86 server market with record setting single and dual-socket performance and product introductions from 10 of the world's largest server manufacturers.
  • AMD introduced its upcoming high-end desktop solution targeted at the world's fastest ultra-premium desktop systems, the Ryzen Threadripper CPU.
  • AMD unveiled new details about its upcoming Ryzen 3 desktop CPUs.
  • AMD launched its Ryzen PRO desktop processors, designed to bring reliability, security, and performance to enterprise desktops.
  • AMD announced that Radeon Instinct accelerators, including Radeon Instinct MI25, MI8, and MI6, together with AMD's open ROCm 1.6 software platform, will ship in Q3 2017.
  • AMD launched the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition graphics card which expands the capacity of traditional GPU memory to 256TB by leveraging system memory.
  • AMD introduced the Radeon RX 580 and Radeon RX 570 graphics cards, engineered using the 2nd generation Polaris architecture for smooth gaming in leading AAA games at HD resolutions and higher.
  • Microsoft unveiled new details and branding for its Xbox One X (formerly "Project Scorpio"), which features an AMD semi-custom chip.
  • AMD announced that it has been selected by the Department of Energy's Exascale Computing Project (ECP) to accelerate critical computing technology research for the development of the nation's first exascale supercomputers.
  • At Financial Analyst Day, AMD detailed the next phase of its long-term growth strategy focused on delivering products and technologies for a combined $60 billion market for PCs, immersive devices, and datacenters.
  • AMD announced the appointment of Abhi Y. Talwalkar to its board of directors.
AMD's outlook statements are based on current expectations. The following statements are forward-looking, and actual results could differ materially depending on market conditions and the factors set forth under "Cautionary Statement" below.

For the third quarter of 2017, AMD expects revenue to increase approximately 23 percent sequentially, plus or minus 3 percent. The midpoint of guidance would result in third quarter 2017 revenue increasing approximately 15 percent year-over-year. AMD now expects annual revenue to increase by a mid to high-teens percentage, compared to prior guidance of low double digit percentage revenue growth.
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43 Comments on AMD Reports Second Quarter 2017 Financial Results

#26
thesmokingman
Dave65It's fair to say, most here don't understand business.. AMD is on a good road right now!
It's ironic right? From CNBC:
  • Wall Street is surprised over AMD's strong earnings and guidance due to digital currency mining demand for its graphics cards.
  • AMD shares have rallied 102 percent through Tuesday in the previous 12 months compared with the S&P 500's 14 percent return.
  • That performance ranks No. 4 in the entire S&P 500, according to FactSet.
The most hilarious quote is from the register:
AMD shocks the world by only losing $16m
rofl

www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/25/amd_q2_fy2017/
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#27
FrustratedGarrett
deuSome people wondering about why they are in the red: If you want marketshare as a underdog you will have to invest. Right now AMD is producing more CPU that they have done in a decade and pushing on all cpu markets. Do you think that stuff comes cheap? A company will push their economy to the max for marketshare and SHOULD go to 0 or minus (if not they have not invested enough. Reestablishing infrastructure and reputation at sellers is not free! :)
Ryzen CPUs are priced terribly. Mostly because they suck at gaming workloads (muh 8-core CPUs for gaming), but also because some of the CPUs aren't priced apart well, like the 6 and 4 core ones. I mean they're selling their 4C/8T CPU for less than the 6600k. How do you expect them to make money? That company is run by people who only care about survival so that they can keep filling their deep pockets and outsourcing jobs, while the company crumbles on itself. Their thread Ripper line up won't make 'em any decent profits.

To make things worse, Vega is a failure and Volta is around the corner. If I were a stock holder, I'd want them to sell their divisions to Intel, Nvidia, or Qualcomm, and call it a good run.
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#28
Captain_Tom
FrustratedGarrettRyzen CPUs are priced terribly. Mostly because they suck at gaming workloads (muh 8-core CPUs for gaming), but also because some of the CPUs aren't priced apart well, like the 6 and 4 core ones. I mean they're selling their 4C/8T CPU for less than the 6600k. How do you expect them to make money? That company is run by people who only care about survival so that they can keep filling their deep pockets and outsourcing jobs, while the company crumbles on itself.
This is a common misconception. The CCX design and GF's cheap 14nm process make Ryzen chips cheaper to manufacture than their Intel counterparts.

Look it up - Ryzen die size is smaller, and GF's node is cheaper. AMD is getting 80%+ yields while Intel is getting 70% yields at best, and AMD's cpu is easier to make.
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#29
Ravenas
The growth over the last year and a half is an amazing story. Going from a 1.5 bil dollar market cap to a 14 bil dollar market cap in less than 2 years time. Wow.
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#30
TheinsanegamerN
FrustratedGarrettRyzen CPUs are priced terribly. Mostly because they suck at gaming workloads (muh 8-core CPUs for gaming), but also because some of the CPUs aren't priced apart well, like the 6 and 4 core ones. I mean they're selling their 4C/8T CPU for less than the 6600k. How do you expect them to make money? That company is run by people who only care about survival so that they can keep filling their deep pockets and outsourcing jobs, while the company crumbles on itself. Their thread Ripper line up won't make 'em any decent profits.

To make things worse, Vega is a failure and Volta is around the corner. If I were a stock holder, I'd want them to sell their divisions to Intel, Nvidia, or Qualcomm, and call it a good run.
Is being a whole 2-3% slower "suck" now? Please show me a gaming workload that a 1700 cannot handle well. I'll wait.

This whole comment, from the misconception of performance, the misconception of costs, that weird rambling bit about outsourcing jobs, all reads like some sort of intel shillboy/fanboy dribble.
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#31
bug
Captain_TomHave you watched the show Silicon Valley? LOL
I haven't. Why? Do you educate yourself by watching HBO?
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#32
phanbuey
FrustratedGarrettEven with Ryzen out and selling they're losing money. I don't see how they can survive in the long term. They should sell their graphics division to Intel and their CPU division to Nvidia and call it a day already.
Operationally they are making money.
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#33
thesmokingman
TheinsanegamerNIs being a whole 2-3% slower "suck" now? Please show me a gaming workload that a 1700 cannot handle well. I'll wait.

This whole comment, from the misconception of performance, the misconception of costs, that weird rambling bit about outsourcing jobs, all reads like some sort of intel shillboy/fanboy dribble.
The rise of low post count posters worrying for AMD's behalf is an interesting coincidence.
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#34
Nuckles56
thesmokingmanThe rise of low post count posters worrying for AMD's behalf is an interesting coincidence.
I think we could also say the same about the reverse, with low post count people popping out of the woodwork claiming AMD's doom will happen tomorrow because Ryzen is s**t
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#35
notb
Dave65It's fair to say, most here don't understand business.. AMD is on a good road right now!
Because? :)
JATownesMost of these comments are laughable and show a sad understanding of how to read a companies financials. Basic understanding of economics and how the financial markets work would really help people understand that these are phenomenal numbers coming from AMD and show a clear path toward long term growth and profitability.
Can you point out the phenomenal part?
I'm not saying the results are bad, but they're far from great either. The situation improved, as everyone expected. But it's not a huge jump and - since we can't easily separate CPU and GPU impact, this could all be a result of mining boom.
But by all means, listen to Goldman-Sachs if you would prefer...their last few analysts predictions have helped them increase their holdings in AMD for cheap.
GS does not own a significant (>1%) share in AMD (I'd say: no share at all).
Nuckles56I think we could also say the same about the reverse, with low post count people popping out of the woodwork claiming AMD's doom will happen tomorrow because Ryzen is s**t
I think the problem here is that people confuse 2 fundamental things: Ryzen being a good CPU and a good product.
This is not a place for discussing whether Ryzen is a good CPU for the user. But is it a good product for AMD? Especially at the price point they're currently forced to sell it? 1800X price is down $80 since launch, 1700 is -$60.
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#36
Boosnie
notbThis is not a place for discussing whether Ryzen is a good CPU for the user. But is it a good product for AMD? Especially at the price point they're currently forced to sell it? 1800X price is down $80 since launch, 1700 is -$60.
And what conclusions you make out of these pricing considerations?


It's in italian but the numbers still show 215% over a year because ryzen is not a good product for AMD


EDIT: for my part, I'm a low post user because I set myself a goal to build an all red pc for the first time in years since my last build (Athlon XP).
I went on with laptops for more than a decade and I'm now resurfacing on the gaming side of life.
Hopefully RX Vega will be better than it seems it is right now.
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#37
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
FrustratedGarrettEven with Ryzen out and selling they're losing money. I don't see how they can survive in the long term. They should sell their graphics division to Intel and their CPU division to Nvidia and call it a day already.
So much here....

AMD hemmhoraged money for so long and owed so much money that even while selling well it will take a long while to climb completely out of the red. It's a long slow process in business. Their prospects on the financials look fairly positive.

As to selling off to Intel and Nvidia, they would not be allowed to do that. They are a U.S. company and regulations preventing monopolies would kick in. Until a valid 3rd competitor to CPU's and GPU's comes along, AMD will never be allowed to fail.
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#38
notb
BoosnieIt's in italian but the numbers still show 215% over a year because ryzen is not a good product for AMD
215% built on a product hype.
AMD stock was going up for a long time and maxed at $15.2 in the last week before Ryzen launch.
The actual launch stopped the positive trend. It hasn't reached the $15.2 level since.
BTW: after a short optimistic jump, the stock is back to the price from before the Ryzen 3 announcement.
rtwjunkieAMD hemmhoraged money for so long and owed so much money that even while selling well it will take a long while to climb completely out of the red. It's a long slow process in business. Their prospects on the financials look fairly positive.
Have you even read this before posting? :)
Their "prospects on the financials" is rubbish for exactly the reason you've mentioned. They've spent a lot on developing Ryzen. This could have been a huge revolution, but it turned out to be just another CPU - just cheaper than Intel's. This huge investment may not pay off.
As to selling off to Intel and Nvidia, they would not be allowed to do that. They are a U.S. company and regulations preventing monopolies would kick in. Until a valid 3rd competitor to CPU's and GPU's comes along, AMD will never be allowed to fail.
I don't think any American company would be interested in buying AMD. But there are quite a few Asian ones that could use the patents and the brand (and they can easily afford it).
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#39
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Again, Ryzen is <6 months in the market, and they have no chip with an IGP or a mobile chip yet. It's way to soon to call it in for AMD.
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#40
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
FrickAgain, Ryzen is <6 months in the market, and they have no chip with an IGP or a mobile chip yet. It's way to soon to call it in for AMD.
Actually, APU's announced today. :)
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#41
deu
FrustratedGarrettRyzen CPUs are priced terribly. Mostly because they suck at gaming workloads (muh 8-core CPUs for gaming), but also because some of the CPUs aren't priced apart well, like the 6 and 4 core ones. I mean they're selling their 4C/8T CPU for less than the 6600k. How do you expect them to make money? That company is run by people who only care about survival so that they can keep filling their deep pockets and outsourcing jobs, while the company crumbles on itself. Their thread Ripper line up won't make 'em any decent profits.

To make things worse, Vega is a failure and Volta is around the corner. If I were a stock holder, I'd want them to sell their divisions to Intel, Nvidia, or Qualcomm, and call it a good run.
So thats why they are selling like hot cake? ;)

I know the whole 'more cores' can be hard to grasp but with the comming 1-2 year you will see a shift for multicore utilization pushed by ryzenplatform on consoles, dx12 vulkan. Comparing the purcase of a new ryzen CPU to the used price is not and argument as it can be used against ANY new CPU. (my 4770K for instance decimates 7700K in cost/performance if we take mine used and 7700K as a new CPU. And trust me; the stock did not go up 639% for fun last year. It is possible that you and your friends dont attribute any progress to what is happening with AMD, but they are strong-arming intel to complete and utter panic (partly intel own fault) right now AMD can spit out CPUs cheaper than intel can. And everything in intel lineup have undergone pricedrops. 7700K cost 66% lower compare to before ryzen (eventhough 4770,4790,6700 did not move on inch during their complete cycle.) Do you think intel have decided to drop prices because they just love their customers? :D You gotta read up on alot of stuff if you dont wanna get battered on the forum :)
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#42
bug
deuSo thats why they are selling like hot cake? ;)

I know the whole 'more cores' can be hard to grasp but with the comming 1-2 year you will see a shift for multicore utilization pushed by ryzenplatform on consoles, dx12 vulkan. Comparing the purcase of a new ryzen CPU to the used price is not and argument as it can be used against ANY new CPU. (my 4770K for instance decimates 7700K in cost/performance if we take mine used and 7700K as a new CPU. And trust me; the stock did not go up 639% for fun last year. It is possible that you and your friends dont attribute any progress to what is happening with AMD, but they are strong-arming intel to complete and utter panic (partly intel own fault) right now AMD can spit out CPUs cheaper than intel can. And everything in intel lineup have undergone pricedrops. 7700K cost 66% lower compare to before ryzen (eventhough 4770,4790,6700 did not move on inch during their complete cycle.) Do you think intel have decided to drop prices because they just love their customers? :D You gotta read up on alot of stuff if you dont wanna get battered on the forum :)
Not that I disagree with you, but last year AMD's stock went up because they signed some contracts to supply GPUs for deep learning and such. Same for Nvidia. Nothing to do with Ryzen/Threadripper/Epyc.
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#43
deu
bugNot that I disagree with you, but last year AMD's stock went up because they signed some contracts to supply GPUs for deep learning and such. Same for Nvidia. Nothing to do with Ryzen/Threadripper/Epyc.
It was more less the CPU division that was the cause (I checked to stock everyday since i owned it) (bought it at 2,3$ and sold it at 14,5$ 3-4 months ago. )The AMD kept optimizing their business and centering their focus WAY more than the years before. They got the deal with the chinese goverment, CERN, consoles and so on. The chinese one resulted in a temporary 60% increase landing on about 51% as far as i remember. (biggest jump for the stock in its history) Their GPU involvement is not the solve cause for sure but i remember the agreements pushing it 10% a few times. Ryzen information kept the price rising up to the launch. If you ask me the next or the quarterly will push AMDs market share up resulting in the stock going up. :)
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