Wednesday, March 13th 2024

Qubic Cryptocurrency Mining Craze Causes AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Stocks to Evaporate

It looks like cryptocurrency mining is back in craze, as miners are firing up their old mining hardware from 2022 to cash in. Bitcoin is now north of $72,000, and is dragging up the value of several other cryptocurrencies, one such being Qubic (QBIC). Profitability calculators put 24 hours of Qubic mining on an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-core processor at around $3, after subtracting energy costs involved in running the chip at its default 170 W TDP. "Zen 4" processors such as the 7950X tend to retain much of their performance with slight underclocking, and reducing their power limits; which is bound to hold or increase profitability, while also prolonging the life of the hardware.

And thus, the inevitable has happened—stocks of the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X have disappeared overnight across online retail. With the market presence of the 7950X3D and the Intel Core i9-14900K, the 7950X was typically found between $550-600, which would have added great value considering its low input costs. CPU-based cryptocurrency miners, including the QBIC miner, appear to be taking advantage of the AVX-512 instruction set. AMD "Zen 4" microarchitecture supports AVX-512 through its dual-pumped 256-bit FPU, and the upcoming "Zen 5" microarchitecture is rumored to double AVX-512 performance over "Zen 4." Meanwhile, Intel has deprecated what few client-relevant AVX-512 instructions its Core processors had since 12th Gen "Alder Lake," as it reportedly affected sales of Xeon processors. What about the 7950X3D? It's pricier, but mining doesn't benefit from the 3D V-cache, and the chip doesn't sustain the kind of CPU clocks the 7950X manages to do across all its 16 cores. It's only a matter of time before the 7950X3D disappears, too; followed by 12-core models such as the 65 W 7900, the 170 W 7900X, and the 7900X3D.
Sources: MEGAsizeGPU (Twitter), Wccftech
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61 Comments on Qubic Cryptocurrency Mining Craze Causes AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Stocks to Evaporate

#1
Xuper
You need AI chip so this doesn't work with Zen3.
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#3
Dr. Dro
Majestic, spend $600+ on a processor (and at least $250 on a relevant motherboard) so you can make up to 3 dollars a day on some volatile as all hell shitcoin no one ever heard of before. Provided this doesn't flop like Chia did (another scheme that turned out to be), maybe you get initial ROI by next year.

You know I often have to question the sanity of these morons still insisting on getting into the crypto scam.
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#4
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Dr. DroMajestic, spend $600+ on a processor (and at least $250 on a relevant motherboard) so you can make up to 3 dollars a day on some volatile as all hell shitcoin no one ever heard of before. Provided this doesn't flop like Chia did (another scheme that turned out to be), maybe you get initial ROI by next year.

You know I often have to question the sanity of these morons still insisting on getting into the crypto scam.
I remember when using hard drives for mining the newest hype coin happened, it did raise HDD spin drive prices too... so pathetic. Just one of the thousands in the dust bin of history pump and dump schemes. Such a waste of resources in so many ways... it's really sad.
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#5
R0H1T
Meh the pumpers/dumpers will get rich way earlier! I wish there was a way to track these MLM scammers & prosecute them because crypto is basically just that right now.
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#6
Dr. Dro
R0H1TMeh the pumpers/dumpers will get rich way earlier! I wish there was a way to track these MLM scammers & prosecute them because crypto is basically just that right now.
I'm afraid it had always been just that from the very beginning. The lockdowns of 2020-2022 only took that to new heights. It all came down when people began being able to have jobs again and gambling your resources on volatile cryptocurrencies lost most of the appeal in favor of far safer options that are on the books.
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#7
Nostras
Dr. DroMajestic, spend $600+ on a processor (and at least $250 on a relevant motherboard) so you can make up to 3 dollars a day on some volatile as all hell shitcoin no one ever heard of before. Provided this doesn't flop like Chia did (another scheme that turned out to be), maybe you get initial ROI by next year.

You know I often have to question the sanity of these morons still insisting on getting into the crypto scam.
I'm not saying I'm supporting this, but you're totally ignoring the value of the hardware itself. You can recoup a large amount of your investment by selling second hand.
I'd wager you'd break even within a month, even sooner if prices go up like the GPU shitshow.
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#8
the54thvoid
Intoxicated Moderator
It's not a climate discussion - stay on topic. No more warnings.
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#10
LabRat 891
This is fantastic for those holding off on upgrades.
As soon as this boom is over w/, the used 7950x will probably be cheaper than most new AM5 CPUs. :laugh:

Seriously, who doesn't want a 'Ellesmere-Polaris situation' with 16core Zen4s?
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#11
Dr. Dro
NostrasI'm not saying I'm supporting this, but you're totally ignoring the value of the hardware itself. You can recoup a large amount of your investment by selling second hand.
I'd wager you'd break even within a month, even sooner if prices go up like the GPU shitshow.
It's no secret cryptocurrency mining erodes the hardware in record speed because it's a constant high current workload. "You can sell it later" counts on there being a sucker out there to buy this e-waste, which unfortunately tends to be true.

For example, even if you were to completely refurbish it by taking the processor core from a mining GPU and installing it on a completely new PCB (Chinese counterfeit 101: look at the sheer volume of people asking for help with counterfeit Polaris cards from Aliexpress on the forum), the hardware is simply going to fail, it's already spent.
LabRat 891This is fantastic for those holding off on upgrades.
As soon as this boom is over w/, the used 7950x will probably be cheaper than most new AM5 CPUs. :laugh:

Seriously, who doesn't want a 'Ellesmere-Polaris situation' with 16core Zen4s?
If it means I have to read threads daily about how their mined counterfeits need a new bios except this time it's that they get BSOD's at stock clocks no thank you
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#12
Chomiq
Luckily I'm already at the endgame for AM4 and don't see a reason to upgrade until AM6.
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#14
Wirko
Does this mean Zen 5 is already sold out?
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#15
mb194dc
Looking forward to the bust when they all go on Ebay at 50% discount ?
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#16
Daven
Is it $3 per day per machine in profit? If it is, that’s over $30,000 per year for 30 PCs or one internet cafe!
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#17
Denver
I hope they go after Epyc and leave the desktop Zen5 models alone.

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#18
Wirko
DavenIs it $3 per day per machine in profit? If it is, that’s over $30,000 per year for 30 PCs or one internet cafe!
And in cold climates, the internet cafe will be excessively warm in the morning, which will attract more guests!
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#19
Readlight
How much bitcoins I would get in 2008 with core 2 Quadro, fastest RAM, HD 4870X2?
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#20
pavle
DenverI hope they go after Epyc and leave the desktop Zen5 models alone.
You know they'll go after the highest performance/price ratio chip.
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#22
Dr. Dro
DenverI hope they go after Epyc and leave the desktop Zen5 models alone.

You should hope this is not happening. AMD offers consumer HEDT (non Pro Threadrippers) starting at $1500 all the way up to $5000. EPYC pricing goes even higher. If demand on either of these high margin segments surges, AMD will respond by manufacturing less socket AM5 desktop grade chips that don't make them nearly as much cash. Then it won't be just a 7950X shortage.
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#23
Metroid
At this time, price/hardwaredevaluation/reward/volatility is not worth the effort, people doing this are morons because 3 usd gross is net 2$ per day right now per 1200 usd, that is 600 days to roi as soon as more people get in, that 2$ will become cents, in the end you will pay to mine and once you sell your hardware to recoup some of it then you will have to sell for 50% off, then that becomes 600 usd, in the end you will lose time, money and you will learn to never do that again.
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#24
kapone32
Dr. DroMajestic, spend $600+ on a processor (and at least $250 on a relevant motherboard) so you can make up to 3 dollars a day on some volatile as all hell shitcoin no one ever heard of before. Provided this doesn't flop like Chia did (another scheme that turned out to be), maybe you get initial ROI by next year.

You know I often have to question the sanity of these morons still insisting on getting into the crypto scam.
You don't need a $250 MB. Any A620 of B650 MB will run that chip. You can call it a scam all you want all I know is that I have made a nice return with my mining rigs, I will be getting another 7900 series CPU as one of the secrets to AM5 mining is that you do not need a discrete GPU to run. With the way Bitcoin is going it may not take long to recoup.
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