Wednesday, January 10th 2018

NVIDIA "Pascal" and AMD "Vega" Graphics Card Prices Sizzle Stateside

Over the 2018 International CES week, prices of performance-segment and high-end graphics card prices have taken flight on US-based online retailers. Prices of the recently-launched GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ($380-ish launch price) cards are touching, $900; those of the GTX 1080 (non-Ti) are over the $1,000-mark, while the GTX 1080 Ti is out of stock in many places. Prices of the GTX 1060 series is still under the $300-mark, but are beginning to rise. AMD's Radeon RX Vega family is either out of stock, or over the $1,000-mark. A combination of crypto-currency mining craze, coupled with reports of graphics card prices rising over 2018 could be behind this rally.
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81 Comments on NVIDIA "Pascal" and AMD "Vega" Graphics Card Prices Sizzle Stateside

#1
R-T-B
timta2 said:
I don't think that's true, they are making huge profits with the limited supplies and so is everyone else involved. That's the way economics works.
But that's not the way mining works. There is only so much investor capital in crypto. The more that mine and sell, the more the coin values drop, the less profit there is for all. This is a prime example of how tragedy of the commons will break the back of crypto-mining eventually and make it unpopular again.

EDIT: Misread your post. You mean the manufacturers? You could be right on that front, actually.
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#2
silapakorn
It's a good time to leave my PC shut down for a while and focus on my backlog PS4 games.
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#3
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
tl;dr: Now is not the time for an upgrade.
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#4
hat
Enthusiast
Makes me happy I got my cards when I did... And I thought I was paying a lot then.
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#5
ppn
That is why it is best to sell them now while somebody is willing to pay triple. You don't really need them now that Ampere is so close.
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#6
R-T-B
ppn said:
You don't really need them now that Ampere is so close.
Ampere? You mean electric? Mining hasn't profited less than electric in a very very long time.
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#7
ppn
What is the best time for the launch of Nvidia Ampere GDC 2018 or Е3 2018. this current generation of pascal has been around for years.
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#8
TheOne
So what is the GTX 1070 selling for now?
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#9
Divide Overflow
TheOne said:
So what is the GTX 1070 selling for now?
Newegg has three models in stock at the moment.
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#10
Assimilator
R-T-B said:
Ampere? You mean electric? Mining hasn't profited less than electric in a very very long time.
He's talking about the successor to Pascal, which according to rumour would be called Ampere instead of Volta.
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#11
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
xkm1948 said:
Oh god I hope the pump on my FuryX AIO doesn't crap out now. I am fresh out of Sapphire warranty and these price for new GPU is just hideous.
Wbs are still made
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#12
punani
Basard said:
Fine... I'll just start playing badminton or something. DICKS.
:laugh:
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#13
HZCH
Prices are so going up in my country (Switzerland), I'm glad I found my Asus ROG 1080Ti almost at MSRP... now CHF918 instead of CHF799 for the cheapest store; some stores already selling them at more than CHF1000...
($1= CHF1)

What are the reasons behind this neverending price rise? I mean aside the mining craze?
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#14
R-T-B
Assimilator said:
He's talking about the successor to Pascal, which according to rumour would be called Ampere instead of Volta.
...and I've been off the news crew too long, thanks. :laugh:

HZCH said:
What are the reasons behind this neverending price rise? I mean aside the mining craze?
There is no aside, really. Just the mining craze.
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#16
Liviu Cojocaru
It looks like the next generation of cards will be very expensive...it looks like a sign of what is coming ... **80 series over 1000$
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#17
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Divide Overflow said:
Newegg has three models in stock at the moment.

They were 100-200 USD cheaper just about a week ago. :mad:
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#18
ppn
Well if there are only a few cards left, the highest bidder wins. The price will go up until the miners make very little profits.
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#19
trog100
ppn said:
Well if there are only a few cards left, the highest bidder wins. The price will go up until the miners make very little profits.
small individual minors will not buy them.. they cant afford to.. looking at scan UK.. they are rapidly going out of stock or onto pre-order.. when the price dosnt go up they simply become unavailable..

large miners buy them by the truck load at wholesale prices.. which means they are not reaching the retail outlets..

mining profits died a death a few months back but as crypto prices have gone up by large amounts recently its become profitable again.. hence the new shortage of cards.. i dont see this getting better any time soon..

trog

ps.. i just had a quick look at 1070 prices on ebay.. they are pretty high.. ebay is always a good place to look for pricing trends..
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#20
EarthDog
NTM2003 said:
I really hope mine will work with the newer amd cpus at the end of year when I upgrade.
why wouldnt it??? :confused:
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#21
nickbaldwin86
kuwlness said:
I have 13 GPUs running 24-7 (3 1080ti's, 7 1080's, and 7 1060's) and my power bill is ~$60 more a month. What are you talking about? I mine more than that in a day. For techies, some of you aren't too keen on maths.
where do you live? My power bill spiked so hard when I mined that it was so shocking I stopped that day. more than doubled my bill. I went from $60 to over $160... and I wasn't mining fast enough to make up the difference. also the strain that it put on my GPU just didn't seem worth it.

kuwlness said:
I have 13 GPUs running 24-7 (3 1080ti's, 7 1080's, and 7 1060's) and my power bill is ~$60 more a month. What are you talking about? I mine more than that in a day. For techies, some of you aren't too keen on maths.
OH and "keen on math" 7+7+3 = ? typo on how many cards you have or is your math a little off? epic fail either way
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#22
xorbe
+$100 at 10c/KWH would be a +1400 watt load for 30 days 24/7. +700 watts for 20c/KWH.
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#23
kuwlness
nickbaldwin86 said:
where do you live? My power bill spiked so hard when I mined that it was so shocking I stopped that day. more than doubled my bill. I went from $60 to over $160... and I wasn't mining fast enough to make up the difference. also the strain that it put on my GPU just didn't seem worth it.
USA, Arizona. I pay ~$0.10 per KW/h and use about 20 KW/h more per day than before i setup the mining rigs. So it's like $60/month. Most of your electric bill in the US is Fees, very little of your bill is actual power usage.

nickbaldwin86 said:
OH and "keen on math" 7+7+3 = ? typo on how many cards you have or is your math a little off? epic fail either way
LOL, yeah that was an epic fail. 17 GPUs. Either way, I paid off my entire setup in under 10 weeks via mining. Best thing you can do is pickup a used 1080ti around $700 on Craigslist and it'll bring in about $7/day. It'll pay for itself in ~7 months and then you got a free card.
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#24
EarthDog
Oh if only it were that easy............
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#25
kanecvr
Prices are not as high in eastern europe (still silly high tough). The problem is stock. All 1070, 1070ti and 1080 cards are out of stock at almost all e-tailers. You can still get a decently priced 1070 from some shops who keep stock - found a 1070 from evga for 490$ last week that way - or you can go the second hand route - lots of cards available SH for decent prices - some even come with box and warranty.

Glad I got my 1080 when I did.

If anyone came asking for a 1080p + setup right now, I'd probably recommend a pair of RX 580 4GB cards in crossfire. They cost much less then a 1070 or 1080, are in stock, will work on all mainboards with two PCI-E slots and the latest drivers brought huge improvements in frame-time and performance for crossfire setups. Too bad the 1060 does not support SLi (nvidia cunts)... I have nothing to offer clients who are nvidia fans.
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