Tuesday, May 29th 2018

Epic Games Sued by PUBG Corp Over "Fortnite" Battle Royale Mode

Epic Games has been dragged to court by PUBG Corporation, developer of "Player Unknown's Battlegrounds" (PUBG) over "copyright infringement" and "plagiarism" in its smash-hit online multiplayer game "Fortnite." PUBG dominated PC gaming in 2017, as its South Korea-based developers raked in hundreds of millions of Dollars in revenues, having sold over 45 million copies of the game. When it released in 2017, "Fotnite" wasn't anywhere near as popular as PUBG, since it only included a tower-defense mode dubbed "Save the World." The game's fortunes turned around when Epic Games introduced the "Battle Royale" mode, which is an open-world free-for-all (FFA). PUBG has a problem with that.

In its complaint, PUBG Corp alleges that "Fortnite" Battle Royale mode copies not just PUBG's gameplay, but also its USP of dropping players in arenas empty-handed, and making them scout out weapons and items so they could both survive and hunt down others. The complaint also includes allegations that the user-interface (UI) is heavily borrowed from that of PUBG. Interestingly, PUBG itself has been inspired by Japanese film "Batoru Rowaiaru," the title of which loosely transliterates to "Battle Royale." This is a fact the defense could bludgeon PUBG's lawyers with.
Source: The Korea Times
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63 Comments on Epic Games Sued by PUBG Corp Over "Fortnite" Battle Royale Mode

#51
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
efikkan...the success of the competition is "threatening the popularity of Battlegrounds".
Ha! I wasn't the only one to pick up on that. ;) I dismissed it as a rough Korean->English translation.
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#52
efikkan
This is no translation error, it has been going on for some time, as mentioned in various sources.
www.businessinsider.com/pubg-bluehole-studios-sues-fortnite-epic-games-copyright-infringement-claims-2018-5?r=US&IR=T

PUBG is basically suing Epic for copying their "look an feel" and releasing a "similar" product. I'm not familiar with Korean laws, but these claims wouldn't stand in U.S. or EU courts. PUBG Corporation is now conducting the same kind of behavior that Microsoft, Apple, etc. have been conducting in the past.
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#53
StrayKAT
efikkanThis is no translation error, it has been going on for some time, as mentioned in various sources.
www.businessinsider.com/pubg-bluehole-studios-sues-fortnite-epic-games-copyright-infringement-claims-2018-5?r=US&IR=T

PUBG is basically suing Epic for copying their "look an feel" and releasing a "similar" product. I'm not familiar with Korean laws, but these claims wouldn't stand in U.S. or EU courts. PUBG Corporation is now conducting the same kind of behavior that Microsoft, Apple, etc. have been conducting in the past.
I don't like what Apple does either, but they break down design (both hardware and interface) to maniacal levels. They've written thick books on it for years. So I can understand somewhat where their compulsion comes from. It's not just one thing they complain about nor does it come on a whim.

In any case, this isn't something I'd like to see SK copy from Americans.
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#54
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
efikkanThis is no translation error, it has been going on for some time, as mentioned in various sources.
www.businessinsider.com/pubg-bluehole-studios-sues-fortnite-epic-games-copyright-infringement-claims-2018-5?r=US&IR=T

PUBG is basically suing Epic for copying their "look an feel" and releasing a "similar" product. I'm not familiar with Korean laws, but these claims wouldn't stand in U.S. or EU courts. PUBG Corporation is now conducting the same kind of behavior that Microsoft, Apple, etc. have been conducting in the past.
They're all citing the same source I linked.
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#55
lexluthermiester
arbiterAbout only legit claim pubg corp has is the "but also its USP of dropping players in arenas empty-handed, " the rest well is and was done before pubg was released so they have no legit claim. As to add on to the end of 2nd paragraph they could use h1 as a defense as that predated pubg doing pretty much everything they claimed short using plane/bus to drop people in.

Bogus Lawsuit period. Bet part of reason they are doing this is cause user base of pubg has been shrinking, even big streamers don't play it as much.
Exactly. This is the definition of "frivolous".

If the judge doesn't throw it out I'd be surprised.
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#56
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
What a bunch of garbage Last Man Standing has been around since quake and Unreal Tournament and I believe Doom too. I believe Duke Nukem as well.

Oh well so much for me thinking about playing player unknown battlegrounds I think I'll just to go play fortnite and whatever Unreal Tournament version there is out there now go back to playing Borderlands and OverWatch
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#57
Ubersonic
efikkanPUBG is basically suing Epic for copying their "look an feel"
Lol, what the look and feel of being roflstomped with aimbots by a speed boosting chinese hacker exploiting the games plethora of glitches? :P
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#58
StrayKAT
I don't even play these games, but is this right?



If so, it makes sense why Pubg is doing what they're doing. They simply can't compete and are resorting to the last thing they have...which is a long shot itself.
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#59
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
He's blowing it out of proportion. We've seen tidal waves like this before...he never mentioned Minecraft. Also that game with the physical pieces too.

He's also very wrong: it's not a game for everyone just like PUBG isn't a game for everyone. I was interested in Fortnite's original plan (apparently releasing this year some time): a tower defense game sort of like Sanctum. I have zero interest in Fortnite Battle Royale.
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#60
StrayKAT
FordGT90ConceptHe's blowing it out of proportion. We've seen tidal waves like this before...he never mentioned Minecraft. Also that game with the physical pieces too.

He's also very wrong: it's not a game for everyone just like PUBG isn't a game for everyone. I was interested in Fortnite's original plan (apparently releasing this year some time): a tower defense game sort of like Sanctum. I have zero interest in Fortnite Battle Royale.
Fair enough. I think he just meant "everyone" though in the sense of social groups (like encroaching on other FPS fanbases as well as NBA 2K's playerbase).. as well as pop culture attraction (celebrity fans). You know a game is pretty popular when the hardcore and mainstream are playing it alike (WoW, Skyrim, CoD, etc).

I had no idea they did an Infinity War tie in.. that's kind of a franchise in itself that attracts everyone too.
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#61
efikkan
StrayKATI don't even play these games, but is this right?


If so, it makes sense why Pubg is doing what they're doing. They simply can't compete and are resorting to the last thing they have...which is a long shot itself.
PUBG Corporation is suing to get a piece of Fortnite's revenue, because their income is declining. If they "can't compete", they should make a better product.
FordGT90ConceptHe's blowing it out of proportion. We've seen tidal waves like this before...he never mentioned Minecraft. Also that game with the physical pieces too.

He's also very wrong: it's not a game for everyone just like PUBG isn't a game for everyone. I was interested in Fortnite's original plan (apparently releasing this year some time): a tower defense game sort of like Sanctum. I have zero interest in Fortnite Battle Royale.
Yes, absolutely.

Minecraft is one of many good examples of these manias. Minecraft was just a poor ripoff of another game, but became immensely popular, and it spawned a whole lot of new clones, and variations on the same concept.

But this isn't new, just in the past few years the same thing have happened with Team Fortress 2 causing "everyone" to create their own variant. Before that we had years of MOBA games before DOTA 2 started to dominate, and before that we had years of tower defense games. Those of you who remember the "golden age of PC gaming" might remember the RTS genre spawned by Dune II, quickly followed by Warcraft and C&C, then a truckload of poorly made clones nobody remembers until Starcraft basically killed the genre due to serious design faults.
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#62
Keullo-e
S.T.A.R.S.
Well, isn't Fortnite just a poor man's PUBG? :D
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#63
lexluthermiester
Chloe PriceWell, isn't Fortnite just a poor man's PUBG? :D
No. They are very different games both in play-style and in concept. Fortnite is very excellent. PUBG wishes it was that good. And that is why the case was pushed. PUBG's creators are butt-hurt about how good it is and how it makes their game look like amateur-hour. And yes, I've played both..
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