Tuesday, March 5th 2019

Maxon Releases Cinebench R20 Benchmark

Maxon Tuesday unveiled its Cinebench R20 benchmark designed to test CPU performance at photorealistic rendering using the company's Cinema 4D R20 technology. The benchmark runs on any PC with at least 4 GB of memory and SSE3 instruction-set support, although it can scale across any number of cores, memory, and supports exotic new instruction-sets such as AVX2. Maxon describes Cinebench R20 as using four times the memory, and eight times the CPU computational power as Cinebench R15. The benchmark implements Intel Embree ray-tracing engine. Maxon is distributing Cinebench R20 exclusively through the Microsoft Store on the Windows platform.

Unlike its predecessor, Cinebench R20 lacks a GPU test. The CPU test scales by the number of CPU cores and SMT units available. It consists of a tiled rendering of a studio apartment living room scene by Render Baron, which includes ray-traced elements, high resolution textures, illumination, and reflections. The number of logical processors available determines the number of rendering instances. The benchmark does indeed have a large memory footprint, and rewards HTT or SMT and high clock-speeds, as our own quick test shows. A 4-core/8-thread Core i7-7700K beats our Core i5-9400F 6-core/6-thread processor.

Update (11th March): We have removed the portable version download at Maxon's request.
DOWNLOAD: Maxon Cinebench R20 (Microsoft Store)
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80 Comments on Maxon Releases Cinebench R20 Benchmark

#1
Fouquin
User Ultra Male on the NotebookReview forums has a portable download available to avoid the Microsoft Store if anyone has an aversion to it but would still like to run this benchmark.

Edit: Portable version now available here on TPU as per the edited article, use it instead.
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#2
Wavetrex
If walled garden stores are the future of computing, I will find something else to do with the rest of my life...

... nature, art, learn to play a musical instrument, paint, do anything else than stare into pixels.
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#3
Athlonite
Maxon is distributing Cinebench R20 exclusively through the Microsoft Store on the Windows platform.


Well it's out for me as I can't install anything from the store without getting this error Code: 0x80070015 and I've tried everything to fix it including a clean install of windows 10 build 1809 something is just F'd up
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#4
ToiletPaper
Athlonite said:
Maxon is distributing Cinebench R20 exclusively through the Microsoft Store on the Windows platform.
Well it's out for me as I can't install anything from the store without getting this error Code: 0x80070015 and I've tried everything to fix it including a clean install of windows 10 build 1809 something is just F'd up
You have a program that blocks the Store download system from working including some that replaces system files (example: PowerISO)
So check your security software, system tweak tools, and any other software that might not seem related like the one mentioned above.
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#5
ArbitraryAffection
The MS store really isn't that bad. I find a MS account really useful, synced settings across the MANY Windows PC's I have and Onedrive and emails all rolled into one. ~shrug~

So the R20 version can use AVX but Zen is doing very well in it. So the data used in a single SIMD operation is at or less than 128bits in size (so not really AVX2) or its using a mixed workload instead of pure AVX. Otherwise Intel would have a marked advantage greater than the normal IPC difference (<10%). Right?
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#6
Caring1
Took around a minute to download and then I was able to run it immediately.
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#7
sam_86314
I removed the store from my PC. Gonna risk it with the portable download.

I find the auto installing apps and games when I first install Windows absolutely disgusting.
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#8
Wavetrex
Well, the "portable" version works:

6800K @ 4.2


Ryzen 7 @ 3.6 on Windows 7, so ... confirmed working without Windows store or even Windows 10
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#9
HimymCZe
FeelsWeirdMan scoring more in R20 than R10+R15 combined.
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#10
sam_86314
Portable version works for me too...
Ryzen 5 2600X boosting from 3.9 to 4GHz on all cores.

I kinda miss the OpenGL benchmark (despite its inconsistent results)
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#11
Athlonite
ToiletPaper said:
You have a program that blocks the Store download system from working including some that replaces system files (example: PowerISO)
So check your security software, system tweak tools, and any other software that might not seem related like the one mentioned above.
Ah yes I do have PowerISO running I shall try shutting it down first I don't kow why I didn't think of that be the problem (even though it really shouldn't be)

Hmmm nope that didn't sort it out at all Buggar now I get an Code: 0x80070005 error instead
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#12
Solaris17
Dainty Moderator
I wonder why they are saying they are "making a portable version" Really its not rocket science..(for this app) for those interested in the technical.

I just downloaded it from MS store.

Ran it and opened the containing folder for the executable and went up a directory.

Path created is

code:
C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\MAXONComputerGmbH.Cinebench_20.0.4.0_x64__rsne5bsk8s7tj


File structure is the following.



minus path.txt which is what I just pasted the path in to save it.

inside of bin is Cinebench.exe. Copy the entire root structure and all containing folders like above.

No modifications are needed for it to run.
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#13
Wavetrex
I wonder ... would it be allowed to have an approved (and confirmed clean) downloadable self-unpacking "zip.exe" here https://www.techpowerup.com/download/benchmarking/ ?
Is there a contract with Maxxon or something that would disallow TPU to provide this ?

Why some of us might risk downloading something from a forum link and MEGA, not many are willing to do so.

Windows Store sucks, and so many of us enthusiasts are 1) Disabling UWP apps completely; 2) Not running Windows 10 at all
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#14
Solaris17
Dainty Moderator
Wavetrex said:
I wonder ... would it be allowed to have an approved (and confirmed clean) downloadable self-unpacking "zip.exe" here https://www.techpowerup.com/download/benchmarking/ ?
Is there a contract with Maxxon or something that would disallow TPU to provide this ?

Why some of us might risk downloading something from a forum link and MEGA, not many are willing to do so.

Windows Store sucks, and so many of us enthusiasts are 1) Disabling UWP apps completely; 2) Not running Windows 10 at all
Probably not, Maxon and Ms probably have a deal. You could always ask w1zzard though. Not sure he would be able to do anything though. He would probably need to contact both of them. In which case they would probably just say no.
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#15
spectatorx
Downloaded portable version and gave it a go. Ryzen 2700x, 32GB 3000MHz CL16 ddr4: 3976 points.

Funny thing is i'm using windows 10 enterprise and for some reason cinebench has issues with proper detection of OS as labels detected OS as "Windows 10, 64bit, unknown edition (72)".
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#16
Caring1
spectatorx said:
Downloaded portable version and gave it a go. Ryzen 2700x, 32GB 3000MHz CL16 ddr4: 3976 points.

Funny thing is i'm using windows 10 enterprise and for some reason cinebench has issues with proper detection of OS as labels detected OS as "Windows 10, 64bit, unknown edition (72)".
It's an improvement on showing it as Windows 8 like the last version did.
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#17
ArbitraryAffection
Caring1 said:
It's an improvement on showing it as Windows 8 like the last version did.
Was just thinking this ^ xD
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#18
Mistral
"The benchmark implements Intel Embree ray-tracing engine"

Good, this should ensure the benchmark is impartial and gives fair an accurate results throughout all platforms.
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#19
ArbitraryAffection
Mistral said:
"The benchmark implements Intel Embree ray-tracing engine"

Good, this should ensure the benchmark is impartial and gives fair an accurate results throughout all platforms.
To be fair Zen does pretty well in it..

Wavetrex said:
If walled garden stores are the future of computing, I will find something else to do with the rest of my life...

... nature, art, learn to play a musical instrument, paint, do anything else than stare into pixels.
It's free... and the door to the Walled Garden is wide open...;p
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#21
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
I went with the "Microsoft-free" version mentioned early in the thread. I ran 3 different scans,, it is clean of malware. It is the self-contained portable version just like R15 used to be.
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#22
Solaris17
Dainty Moderator
Wavetrex said:
Why some of us might risk downloading something from a forum link and MEGA, not many are willing to do so.
then again, If someone were curious enough to dive into my post above and get the files. I imagine someone could do something like this

In theory, by putting something like this as the SFX comment in say winrar.

code:

Path="%systemdrive%\Program Files (x86)\"
Setup="%systemdrive%\Program Files (x86)\Maxon\CreateShortcut.bat"
Silent=1
Overwrite=1



But thats assuming they named the archive "Maxon"

Then in order to make it easier to execute they would probably have the SFX execute that setup line on a file called "CreateShortcut.bat" that was in the root of the SFX with all the other folders and files.

That batch would probably look alot like this.

code:

@echo off

set SCRIPT="%TEMP%\%RANDOM%-%RANDOM%-%RANDOM%-%RANDOM%.vbs"

echo Set oWS = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell") >> %SCRIPT%
echo sLinkFile = "%userprofile%\Desktop\Cinebench.lnk" >> %SCRIPT%
echo Set oLink = oWS.CreateShortcut(sLinkFile) >> %SCRIPT%
echo oLink.TargetPath = "%~dp0Bin\Cinebench.exe" >> %SCRIPT%
echo oLink.Save >> %SCRIPT%

cscript /nologo %SCRIPT%
del %SCRIPT%



Because im sure they would want to drop a shortcut on the desktop instead of rifling through the program files directory.
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#23
Wavetrex
I meant "While some of might risk".... Apparently the autocarrot fixedized it for me into "why". Oops :)

Edit:
Now this is weird...
It's possible to mess around with the textures:

Observe how I've wrote "wavetrex" with green on the table, painted some red stuff on the couch and applied a "cat carpet" on the ground (which repeats...)

Really weird stuff ;)

Previous version was too abstract... but this one...
Make it YOUR room with a bit of Photoshop :)
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#24
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Added a portable version to TPU downloads (now linked in the article).
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#25
W1zzard
Wavetrex said:
I wonder ... would it be allowed to have an approved (and confirmed clean) downloadable self-unpacking "zip.exe" here https://www.techpowerup.com/download/benchmarking/ ?
Is there a contract with Maxxon or something that would disallow TPU to provide this ?

Why some of us might risk downloading something from a forum link and MEGA, not many are willing to do so.

Windows Store sucks, and so many of us enthusiasts are 1) Disabling UWP apps completely; 2) Not running Windows 10 at all
Just woke up and made the portable version that's now in our downloads section, I also added missing VC runtime and the manual.
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