Tuesday, April 23rd 2019

Intel Expands 9th Gen Core Desktop and Mobile Processor Families

Today, Intel launched the most powerful generation of Intel Core mobile processors ever: the new 9th Gen Intel Core mobile H-series processors, designed for gamers and creators who want to push their experience to the next level. "Our new 9th Gen platform is designed to delight gamers, creators and performance users by giving them more of what they want. We are bringing desktop-caliber performance with up to 5 GHz and 8 cores in a range of thinner systems and new level of connectivity with Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) so users can game or create where they want," said Fredrik Hamberger, general manager of the Premium and Gaming Laptop Segments at Intel.

There are 580 million enthusiast PC gamers and 130 million PC-based content creators today who care about raw performance as much as they do responsiveness of their PC. They require PCs that can handle everything from demanding AAA games to taxing creative workloads like editing, rendering and transcoding massive 4K video - all while on the go. The 9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors deliver desktop-caliber performance in a mobile form factor and feature amazing performance; the fastest, most reliable wireless with Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (Gig+); the most versatile wired connectivity with Thunderbolt 3; and support for Intel Optane memory technology.
At the top of the stack is the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9980HK processor, the first Intel Core i9 mobile processor with up to 5 GHz with Intel Thermal Velocity Boost, 8 cores and 16 threads, and supporting 16 MB of Intel Smart Cache. The 9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors are designed for the most demanding workloads to deliver:
  • A full range of processors including Intel Core i5, i7 and the unlocked Intel Core i9-9980HK for even more performance.
  • Up to 33% overall performance leap compared with a 3-year old PC.
  • Up to 28% increased responsiveness.
  • Continuous performance optimization with Intel Dynamic Tuning for all types of laptops.
9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors deliver desktop-caliber AAA gaming you can take anywhere, even while recording and streaming. With optimized performance on battery and Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 supporting multi-Gigabit Wi-Fi speed - based on the latest Wi-Fi standard offering low latency and ultra-fast connection speeds - laptop gaming gets a whole lot better. Gamers will be able to:
  • Play immersive AAA gameplay with up to 56% FPS improvement on games like "Total War: Warhammer II".
  • Experience up to 38% faster turn time on games like "Civilization 6".
  • Game, record and stream without compromise and broadcast HD live streams up to 2.1 times faster, gen-over-gen.
  • Break the gigabit barrier with the latest Wi-Fi 6 standard running on the Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (Gig+) solution offering almost three times faster throughput and up to 75% latency reduction - pair it with Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) routers based on Intel technology to unleash a great gaming experience.
9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors power faster video editing to tackle heavyweight creative tasks on the go. New Intel Optane memory H10 with solid-state storage provides the responsiveness of Intel Optane memory with the capacity of a QLC NAND SSD, speeds application and content loading, and Thunderbolt 3 enhances home and office creation via fast single-wire access to multiple 4K monitors, additional external storage and system charging. 9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors will deliver:
  • Up to 54% faster 4K video editing versus a 3-year-old PC.
  • With up to 1TB of total storage, Intel Optane memory H10 with solid-state storage will have the capacity users need for their apps and files.
  • Up to 63% faster content creation versus a 3-year-old PC via Intel Optane memory H10 with solid-state storage versus a standalone TLC NAND SSD.
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) lets you share your 10GB multimedia files in less than one minute (almost three times faster than standard 2×2 AC Wi-Fi). When connected to a new Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) router powered by Intel technology it is now possible to create, edit and share faster than ever before.
Starting April 23, 2019, laptops powered by the 9th Gen Intel Core mobile processors will launch from OEMs including Acer, ASUS, Dell, HP, Lenovo and MSI, as they introduce the most compelling laptops for gaming and content creation.

New Desktop Processors
New additions to the 9th Gen Intel Core desktop processor family were also introduced today. The 9th Gen Intel Core desktop processor lineup now includes more than 25 total products with options ranging from Intel Core i3 up to Intel Core i9 with amazing performance and flexibility to meet a range of consumer needs from everyday productivity to gaming to content creation. The family also brings Pentium Gold and Celeron products to market for entry-level computing, giving consumers even more options to find the right desktop to fit their specific need and budgets. New capabilities include:
  • Up to 47% more FPS while gaming.
  • Up to 2.1 times faster video editing compared with a 5-year old PC for 4K and 360 video editing experiences.
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) with gigabit Wi-Fi speeds delivering almost three times faster than standard 2×2 AC, and 40% faster than Intel Wireless-AC (Gigabit).
  • Up to 8 cores and 16 threads, up to 5 GHz maximum turbo frequency, up to 16 MB Intel Smart Cache and up to 40 platform PCIe lanes.
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46 Comments on Intel Expands 9th Gen Core Desktop and Mobile Processor Families

#1
bpgt64
...Up to 40 PCIe lanes. But it only has 24? I am confused, it either has it or doesn't right?
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#2
btarunr
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bpgt64, post: 4035351, member: 60142"
...Up to 40 PCIe lanes. But it only has 24? I am confused, it either has it or doesn't right?
16 lanes from CPU + [up to] 24 lanes from the chipset.
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#4
Vayra86
H is for Hot
K is for much Klock
F is for freaking avoid the ...ucker

Bottom line, not much changed, this is just 8th gen all over again with more cut down parts in the stack.

I'll see myself out
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#5
HD64G
Cheap marketing. They are just trying hard to get as many customers as possible before Zen2 cpus arrive. After that, they might end up heavily discounting their cpus just to push their stock pile. Let's see how that will go.
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#6
ShurikN
That 9980HK will boost to 5GHz for about 0.5 of a second and then throttle.
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#8
Caring1
TheLostSwede, post: 4035411, member: 3382"
No rumoured KFC version? :p
They've managed to make the hot part, but not the spicey. ;)
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#10
efikkan
HD64G, post: 4035399, member: 95052"
Cheap marketing. They are just trying hard to get as many customers as possible before Zen2 cpus arrive. After that, they might end up heavily discounting their cpus just to push their stock pile. Let's see how that will go.
We should expect some realignment when Zen 2 arrives, but it's not likely that these products will be hard to sell when Zen 2 arrives, given the right price of course.
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#11
Tomgang
I have a hard time with the tdp to be right. 45 watt for all of them no matter if its 4, 6 or 8 cores:wtf: and base clock are even close to.

Some thing tells me those 8 core chips gonna need some pretty good cooling for not to thermal throttle.
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#12
danbert2000
Intel must think we're idiots. They're selling these F processors for the same exact price as the SKUs with an iGPU. Why would anyone buy an F processor instead of just disabling the iGPU in the regular processor and then having the ability to run the system without a graphics card in the event of an upgrade or failure? These chips still have the silicon onboard, it's just disabled. Even a $10 discount would be enough to justify the F series, but at the same price it's pointless.
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#13
TheLostSwede
danbert2000, post: 4035458, member: 165365"
Intel must think we're idiots. They're selling these F processors for the same exact price as the SKUs with an iGPU. Why would anyone buy an F processor instead of just disabling the iGPU in the regular processor and then having the ability to run the system without a graphics card in the event of an upgrade or failure? These chips still have the silicon onboard, it's just disabled. Even a $10 discount would be enough to justify the F series, but at the same price it's pointless.
Because Intel has a CPU shortage right now, so you can get an F SKU part today, or a regular part in a month...
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#14
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
TheLostSwede, post: 4035411, member: 3382"
No rumoured KFC version? :p
Thank God you stopped at KFC and didn't use AMD extensions like "Black Edition."
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#15
Penev91
It's something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#16
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Tomgang, post: 4035453, member: 154607"
I have a hard time with the tdp to be right. 45 watt for all of them no matter if its 4, 6 or 8 cores:wtf: and base clock are even close to.
Why? I have an HP Spectre for work that has an i7 8550u in it, that's a 4c/8t chip with a configurable TDP betweeen 15w and 25w. The reality is that these chips clock less as temperature rises. By the time you've hit 75-80*C, these CPUs are at base clocks, but I'm not surprised that they can get an 8c/16t CPU at ~2.0Ghz to run at 45 watts under some sort of load.

Someone needs to post that dunce hat, moar cores meme, but with Intel.
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#17
Manu_PT
danbert2000, post: 4035458, member: 165365"
Intel must think we're idiots. They're selling these F processors for the same exact price as the SKUs with an iGPU. Why would anyone buy an F processor instead of just disabling the iGPU in the regular processor and then having the ability to run the system without a graphics card in the event of an upgrade or failure? These chips still have the silicon onboard, it's just disabled. Even a $10 discount would be enough to justify the F series, but at the same price it's pointless.
I5 9400f is 150€ here. 50€ cheaper than 8400.
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#18
Darmok N Jalad
danbert2000, post: 4035458, member: 165365"
Intel must think we're idiots. They're selling these F processors for the same exact price as the SKUs with an iGPU. Why would anyone buy an F processor instead of just disabling the iGPU in the regular processor and then having the ability to run the system without a graphics card in the event of an upgrade or failure? These chips still have the silicon onboard, it's just disabled. Even a $10 discount would be enough to justify the F series, but at the same price it's pointless.
My local Microcenter is selling the 9400F for $159. It’s $50 cheaper and has 100MHz more stock/boost than the 8400, so it’s actually a better buy if you don’t need the iGPU.
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#19
Octopuss
Where would the world be without the word "immersive".
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#20
TheGuruStud
Tomgang, post: 4035453, member: 154607"
I have a hard time with the tdp to be right. 45 watt for all of them no matter if its 4, 6 or 8 cores:wtf: and base clock are even close to.

Some thing tells me those 8 core chips gonna need some pretty good cooling for not to thermal throttle.
Don't worry, OEMs will impose 25/35W TDPs to make sure they always run at base clock and offer same perf as having 2 less cores lol

Almost every 8750H laptop has to be undervolted or you're temp AND power throttling nonstop.
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#21
Minus Infinity
ShurikN, post: 4035404, member: 140585"
That 9980HK will boost to 5GHz for about 0.5 of a second and then throttle.
Indeed, the throttling in laptops is a sick joke thanks to Intel's BS TDP ratings based on one core. Anandtech did a great write up on this. Doesn't help laptops keep getting thinner, heat dissipation is much worse now.
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#22
timta2
Darmok N Jalad, post: 4035638, member: 170588"
My local Microcenter is selling the 9400F for $159. It’s $50 cheaper and has 100MHz more stock/boost than the 8400, so it’s actually a better buy if you don’t need the iGPU.
Micro Center isn't really a fair comparison. It's an in-store only deal, that they sell below normal price, to sucker people into coming into the store, so that their commissioned salespeople can try and harass them for more sales. They are also in limited geographic areas.
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#23
Darmok N Jalad
timta2, post: 4035739, member: 47844"
Micro Center isn't really a fair comparison. It's an in-store only deal, that they sell below normal price, to sucker people into coming into the store, so that their commissioned salespeople can try and harass them for more sales. They are also in limited geographic areas.
Wow, I haven’t met someone who hated Microcenter before. I’ve never felt pressured by their staff. I think they are better trained to leave the knowledgeable alone and help along the rest. You also get $30 off if you buy a motherboard too. I’ve never minded saving money, but to each their own, I suppose.

Anyway, even Newegg sells the 9400F for $169 vs the 8400 at $228, so anyone can get the savings.
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#24
notb
danbert2000, post: 4035458, member: 165365"
Intel must think we're idiots. They're selling these F processors for the same exact price as the SKUs with an iGPU. Why would anyone buy an F processor instead of just disabling the iGPU in the regular processor and then having the ability to run the system without a graphics card in the event of an upgrade or failure? These chips still have the silicon onboard, it's just disabled. Even a $10 discount would be enough to justify the F series, but at the same price it's pointless.
The MSRP figures don't seem right. We'll see what happens when they hit the stores.

i5-9400F is being sold for 20-30% less than i5-8500 (with almost identical performance). The gap is even slightly larger than MSRPs would suggest.

Putting aside the weird F pricing, everything else looks as expected. I'll be a happy owner of a 9700/9900 one day, possibly after Zen2 arrives and these prices go down a bit.
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#25
HwGeek
Intel CPU 2018-2021 Roadmap Leaks Out – Up To 10 Core Comet Lake-S Desktop CPUs in 2020, 14nm Rocket Lake-S in 2021, No 10nm LGA Parts Till 2022
https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-mobile-cpu-roadmap-leak-14nm-comet-lake-10nm-ice-lake-tiger-lake/

We all know that AMD can go upto 16 cores, and we also know how hard was for Intel to make Core i9 9990XE 14C 5.0Ghz, this can give you an Idea that there is no more Clock speed bump to save Intel with New Refresh.
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