Thursday, June 4th 2020

Microsoft's New Chromium Based Edge Browser Now Rolling Out Via Windows Update

Microsoft released the first preview of its overhauled chromium-based edge browser back in January, but users had to navigate to Microsoft's site to install the browser. The new browser will now automatically roll out to versions of Windows 10 from version 1803 onwards, this will mean up to a billion installs of the updated browser. The New Edge browser when installed via windows update completely replaces the previous Edge browser whereas the website install coexists with the existing Edge browser.
Source: Microsoft
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76 Comments on Microsoft's New Chromium Based Edge Browser Now Rolling Out Via Windows Update

#1
Caring1
No need to navigate to a Microsoft site, as opening Edge, a tab opens up and allows you to download and install directly from it, no W.U. involved.
Now I have Edge and Chromium based Edge.
I would have preferred if it replaced the original Edge altogether.
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#2
Chomiq
Hold on, there are now search "rewards" in W10 search bar? Since when?
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#3
kayjay010101
I've been testing new Edge since March, and it's really not bad. It feels identical to Chrome in every way except for the theme. Every button, every setting, every shortcut is the same as Chrome. So I personally use it to have multiple accounts logged into a service at the same time on one computer, as I'm most comfortable with Chrome so it's essentially like having two (separate) instances of Chrome open.
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#5
TheDeeGee
cucker tarlson
pc - firefox
android - opera

that is all.
But you're still using Windows?
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#6
ARF
cucker tarlson
pc - firefox
android - opera

that is all.
No.

Edge is the best, it works with all features present on hardware level in the chips - for example Radeon Image Sharpening.

While the others are blurry, Edge is very crisp and clear, and super responsive.
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#7
cucker tarlson
TheDeeGee
But you're still using Windows?
yes,I'm sitting next to one right now.
ARF
Edge is the best, it works with all features present on hardware level in the chips - for example Radeon Image Sharpening.
lol
ARF
While the others are blurry, Edge is very crisp and clear
lol x2

I honestly hope you're getting paid for that
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#9
cucker tarlson
if that your criteria for choosing a browser is radeon sharpening then please change your criteria.

it's not CHROME that's blurry in the pcitures,it's THE PICTURE you're viewing in chrome.

and it's not even blurry,it's that the 1st one is way oversharpened.
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#10
ARF
cucker tarlson
if that your criteria for choosing a browser is radeon sharpening then please change your criteria.

it's not CHROME that's blurry in the pcitures,it's THE PICTURE you're viewing in chrome.
It's everything - the images and the text fonts.
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#11
cucker tarlson
ARF
It's everything - the images and the text fonts.
okay.
can we stop talking about radeon or amd ?
in one thread you or ratit comment on ?
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#12
ARF
cucker tarlson
okay.
can we stop talking about radeon or amd ?
Why? You get higher resolution and better pictures with it. We are not biased, just comparing apples to apples.
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#13
cucker tarlson
ARF
Why? You get higher resolution and better pictures with it. We are not biased, just comparing apples to apples.
no,you're comparing gpu features in a thread about browsers.
and how are you getting higher resolution via sharpening ?
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#14
Vayra86
ARF
Why? You get higher resolution and better pictures with it. We are not biased, just comparing apples to apples.
Sharpening is an effect that distorts the original image. It does not create a higher resolution. It does not provide detail that wasn't there before. It only brightens and darkens the pixels of edges to create an illusion of sharpness. What you are really seeing, is more aliasing.

The below is a screengrab from Firefox running over a GTX 1080. Text is 100% crisp as you can see. There are no sharpening artifacts, Contrast is accurate. Generated model images are pixel perfect.



Here's your fantastic sharpening pass

Hideous


This is my text enlarged, no sharpening: no edge artifacts, just interpolation and Windows TrueType (or whatever it is under 10) settings.



Here is an example of how sharpening causes loss of color information

Left is not sharpened. Note also how left has almost no aliasing, and the right clearly does, while missing tints of blue, and oversaturating the image.



Either stop making BS claims in topics where they absolutely do not belong, or just educate yourself.
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#15
Mats
ARF
You get higher resolution and better pictures with it.
Even coming from you, that's new low.
ARF
We are not biased, just comparing apples to apples.
I don't think you're aware of being biased.
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#16
cucker tarlson
Vayra86
Sharpening is an effect that distorts the original image. It does not create a higher resolution. It does not provide detail that wasn't there before. It only brightens and darkens the pixels of edges to create an illusion of sharpness. What you are really seeing, is more aliasing.

The below is a screengrab from Firefox running over a GTX 1080. Text is 100% crisp as you can see. There are no sharpening artifacts, Contrast is accurate. Generated model images are pixel perfect.



Here's your fantastic sharpening pass

Hideous


This is my text enlarged, no sharpening: no edge artifacts, just interpolation and Windows TrueType (or whatever it is under 10) settings.



Here is an example of how sharpening causes loss of color information

Left is not sharpened. Note also how left has almost no aliasing, and the right clearly does, while missing tints of blue, and oversaturating the image.



Either stop making BS claims in topics where they absolutely do not belong, or just educate yourself.
was gonna point it out,thanks for saving me time.sharpening looks hideous on some of the thinner lines.
I avoid it in games,and certainly avoid it in home use.get a high dpi screen cause sharpening isn't subsitute for more pixels.
a good AA technique actually smoothens the image not sharpens it,and dlss is actually recreating pixels through hi-res ground truth.sharpening is neither and is inferior to both,by a mile.it's the cheapest cheat a gpu can do.
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#17
ARF
Vayra86
Sharpening is an effect that distorts the original image. It does not create a higher resolution. It does not provide detail that wasn't there before. It only brightens and darkens the pixels of edges to create an illusion of sharpness. What you are really seeing, is more aliasing.

The below is a screengrab from Firefox running over a GTX 1080. Text is 100% crisp as you can see. There are no sharpening artifacts, Contrast is accurate. Generated model images are pixel perfect.
This is irrelevant because you are using stupid levels of zoom which is not needed.
The fact is that Edge is the best looking browser out there. Full stop.

Your Firefox and GTX 1080 look worse than mine Edge and Radeon Vega.
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#18
Vayra86
ARF
This is irrelevant because you are using stupid levels of zoom which is not needed.
The fact is that Edge is the best looking browser out there. Full stop.
So you're saying you cannot see aliasing on your own screenshot there? I think multiple people clearly pointed out to you that the sharpened image was visibly inferior. No zoom required.

Full stop, indeed, just save whatever speck of credibility you have left after that comment. It ain't much, be careful before you lose that too. Soon we might question your vision.
cucker tarlson
was gonna point it out,thanks for saving me time.sharpening looks hideous on some of the thinner lines.
I avoid it in games,and certainly avoid it in home use.get a high dpi screen cause sharpening isn't subsitute for more pixels.
a good AA technique actually smoothens the image not sharpens it,and dlss is actually recreating pixels through hi-res ground truth.sharpening is neither and is inferior to both,by a mile.it's the cheapest cheat a gpu can do.
Early DLSS implementations suffered similar sharpening artifacts. I remember screenshots... This whole thing ain't new, at least to many.
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#19
Mussels
Moderprator
Whatever blur issues you're having comes from an issue with how your display is setup, and you're using a feature of edge to work around.


Edge chromium genuinely is good, its a less bloated chrome with better 3D harwdware support (hence things like image sharpening working) that means less resources are required and performance is higher.

Like someone else posted above, i use it for my 2nd gmail account and actually quite like it. You can direct install plugins from the chrome web store, too.
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#20
ARF
Mussels
Whatever blur issues you're having comes from an issue with how your display is setup, and you're using a feature of edge to work around.


Edge chromium genuinely is good, its a less bloated chrome with better 3D harwdware support (hence things like image sharpening working) that means less resources are required and performance is higher.

Like someone else posted above, i use it for my 2nd gmail account and actually quite like it. You can direct install plugins from the chrome web store, too.
I think there is problem with the Google Chrome rendering and display settings or setup has the least influence on it.
I observe it on all screens, not just one particular.

Edge just works better than Chrome and it's not just the blurriness in Chrome, it is heavier and less responsive from my observations - be the Facebook, YouTube, Edge is faster.
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#21
Mussels
Moderprator
Looking at your specs i can see why 3D GPU acceleration is going to be faster, you've got weak CPU's by todays standards (still perfectly fine for web and video playback)

That said, all these browsers look the same. You've definitely got something unique to you going on with your sharpness issue.
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#22
Vayra86
ARF
I think there is problem with the Google Chrome rendering and display settings or setup has the least influence on it.
I observe it on all screens, not just one particular.

Edge just works better than Chrome and it's not just the blurriness in Chrome, it is heavier and less responsive from my observations - be the Facebook, YouTube, Edge is faster.
See, now we're on topic. Good. Edge dóes work better than Chrome in most cases, that is absolutely true. Chrome was a bloated mess for a while now.

About that sharpening... that's really a you problem because Edge looks identical to FF here in terms of sharpness. There ARE differences though, absolutely, and interestingly, contrast seems different, and affects saturation too (FF left, Edge right). You can also observe a small difference in font (spacing or a different kind of bolding?):



Both browsers in this situation take about 8% GPU resources. Both open at 16%. One open down to 8%.
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#23
ARF
Vayra86
See, now we're on topic. Good. Edge dóes work better than Chrome in most cases, that is absolutely true. Chrome was a bloated mess for a while now.

About that sharpening... that's really a you problem because Edge looks identical to FF here in terms of sharpness. There ARE differences though, absolutely, and interestingly, contrast seems different, and affects saturation too (FF left, Edge right). You can also observe a small difference in font (spacing or a different kind of bolding?):



Both browsers in this situation take about 8% GPU resources. Both open at 16%. One open down to 8%.
Left side looks crisper. But you are not using a Radeon.
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#24
windwhirl
Firefox has a bunch of settings that affect how text is rendered.


Maybe Chrome has some too.
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#25
cucker tarlson
ARF
This is irrelevant because you are using stupid levels of zoom which is not needed.
The fact is that Edge is the best looking browser out there. Full stop.

Your Firefox and GTX 1080 look worse than mine Edge and Radeon Vega.
a radeon card displays the same amount pixels as a geforce,all it can do is use a sharpening trick,which,as was explained to you,has a list of imperfections.none of us use sharpening on browsers cause smooth edges look better and have no artifacts.

now let's talk actual browsers.
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