Tuesday, June 9th 2020

King of Consumer Solid State Storage: Amazon Lists 8 TB Samsung 870 QVO-Series SATA III SSD

For users that want to fully migrate their HDD storage towards a speedier SSD-option, Samsung's QVO series has usually been one of the more interesting prospects. Built solely with the intention of offering some of the best performance/$ metrics in the SSD storage space, the QVO series keeps Samsung's quality track record when it comes to NAND production but aims to reduce pricing as much as possible.

Amazon has now listed an 8 TB, consumer-available Samsung 870 QVO SSD. This SSD won't win any speed contests: it's built on the 2.5" form-factor and features a SATA III interface, but then again, this isn't meant to be used as users' fastest storage solution - it's meant to replace high-capacity HDDs while offering a notable performance improvement. It's very likely the QVO 870 is using Samsung's QLC (quad level cell) 3D V-NAND tech - which is still fine for most use-cases where you'll be mostly reading from the disc (and honestly, it's likely that most users would never even see performance degradation over the lifetime of the SSD, should they have a typical usage scenario). The 8 TB Samsung 870 QVO is currently listed on Amazon for a relatively steep $899.99 - which still amounts to some 11 cents per GB, so not a bad deal at all. Remember that pricing is currently slightly on the high side following the COVID-19 pandemic, though.
Sources: Samsung 870 QVO via Amazon, via Tom's Hardware
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31 Comments on King of Consumer Solid State Storage: Amazon Lists 8 TB Samsung 870 QVO-Series SATA III SSD

#26
Mamya3084
Owen1982For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
I do have the important stuff in the cloud as well. The stuff on the Nas is the "Cbf to re-download" storage.
The drives I have are enterprise Hitachi SATA drives that were in storage before we moved to SAS. Although, nothing is fool proof.
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#27
bonehead123
lexluthermiesterThe indutry is going to need to come up with a breakthrough in both durability and capacity before it will truly replace HDD's
Isolinear chips.. ...they is a comin to a 'puter near you soon...and sooner than you think, hehehe :)
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#28
HugsNotDrugs
Owen1982SATA and QLC? No thanks.

To the person that said M.2 drives need a heatsiink - mostly not and mostly only thermal when you're running benchmarks or if you have a very hot case, in whiich case you probably should sort that out to benefit all your other system components.

I think QLC and SMR should die already. They are just manufactures shovelling their crap at the consumers because they are cheap to produce. They are actually not that much cheaper for the customer in the end, so manufactures benefit.

For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
A large 8TB QLC SATA drive at $900 USD is a niche product not meant for widespread adoption. SATA is also understandable when the flash memory packages would not physically fit on any M.2 form factors.
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#29
lexluthermiester
HugsNotDrugsSATA is also understandable when the flash memory packages would not physically fit on any M.2 form factors.
Excellent point.
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#30
dir_d
Owen1982SATA and QLC? No thanks.

To the person that said M.2 drives need a heatsiink - mostly not and mostly only thermal when you're running benchmarks or if you have a very hot case, in whiich case you probably should sort that out to benefit all your other system components.

I think QLC and SMR should die already. They are just manufactures shovelling their crap at the consumers because they are cheap to produce. They are actually not that much cheaper for the customer in the end, so manufactures benefit.

For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
I said what i said mostly because Raid 5 is Dead on Spindles because by the time you Resilver odds are another disk is going to fail. With these SSDs the MTBF is much higher than a spindles which could make Raid5 and Raidz1 useful again. Of course Raid is not a backup and you should use like you stated the 3-2-1 rule. Its just as the prices come down we could utilize the traditional methods for Nas's.
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#31
CheapMeat
I have zero issues against QLC & upcoming PLC. But just wanted to ask, do the Samsung QVO drives use SLC cache scheme plus RAM or just RAM?
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