Monday, June 29th 2020

Sony PlayStation 5 Hardware Pricing and Availability Leaked: €100 Premium for BD Drive

Prices of Sony's various PlayStation 5 components just hit the web, thanks a Cowcotland report citing IronManPS5, a source with high reliability with PlayStation 5 leaks. To begin with, the standard PlayStation 5 console, which includes one Dual Sense controller, is priced at 499€. This console includes a Blu-ray disc drive so you could keep a physical library of all your games. Additional Dual Sense controllers can be bought for 59€ a piece. The PlayStation 5 Digital edition, which lacks an optical drive and makes you rely entirely on your Internet connections to get games, is priced a whopping 20% less, at 399€.

Other hardware accessories include an elegant recharging station for the Dual Shock controllers at 29€, which can recharge up to two controllers at a time; a wireless Media Remote accessory that lets you use your PS5 as a streaming entertainment device for your TV, priced at 29€, and an HD stereo web-camera for 59€. One accessory that stands out is the Pulse 3D wireless gaming headset for the PS 5, by Sony, which uses a high quality audio setup from Sony, priced at 179€. The PlayStation 5 family is expected to be available from November 14, 2020.
Sources: Cowcotland, IronManPS5 (Twitter)
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64 Comments on Sony PlayStation 5 Hardware Pricing and Availability Leaked: €100 Premium for BD Drive

#1
ZeppMan217
Would this translate into $500/$400 for the US?
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#2
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
I already have a really nice 4k blu ray player. However I would be interested in the optical version of ps5 if the 4k blu ray player is well rated. I assume it will be. Also, buying physical media is very important. As you all know many groups of people have been trying to remove online content.
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#3
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
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#4
bug
I still don't understand why nobody gives consoles away for free. Everybody knows the money is in the purchases you make after you buy the console, so not widen your market?
I mean, the console is, what?, the price of 6-7 games? And standard editions at that.
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
Closed vs open configuration. Apples to oranges.
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#5
Tartaros
Holy fuck, they are stepping up their game. 399 is a steal compared to previous console launches, I think I'll bite.
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#6
RedelZaVedno
bug
I still don't understand why nobody gives consoles away for free. Everybody knows the money is in the purchases you make after you buy the console, so not widen your market?
I mean, the console is, what?, the price of 6-7 games? And standard editions at that.


Closed vs open configuration. Apples to oranges.
It's really not anymore. It's x86 system with Zen2/RDNA2 tech in it, same is true for Xbox X. These things could run Windows 10/Linux without a problem if MS/Sony would support it. I insist that we're getting screwed price wise big time.
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#7
bug
RedelZaVedno
It's really not anymore. It's x86 system with Zen2/RDNA2 tech in it, same is true for Xbox X. These things could run Windows 10/Linux without a problem if MS/Sony would support it. I insist that we're getting screwed price wise big time.
That's the big difference. A PC you own (more or less). A console you only rent.
It's not that you're getting screwed, it's just that both distribution and support for consoles is much, much cheaper.
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#8
kayjay010101
If this is true, that's actually incredibly well-priced. I was expecting €599/499 or even higher.
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#9
Chomiq
I don't see the point of pushing the streaming functionality. This isn't 2013 anymore, your TV can do all of that stuff.
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
Except here Sony takes majority of profit from online sales, plus money from PS Plus. Who's getting screwed?
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#10
Xex360
100€/$ is huge, I find hard to believe.
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#11
Eroticus
Xex360
100€/$ is huge, I find hard to believe.
They are going to make much more money from Digital version, so why not to sell it much cheaper.
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#12
RedelZaVedno
Chomiq
I don't see the point of pushing the streaming functionality. This isn't 2013 anymore, your TV can do all of that stuff.

Except here Sony takes majority of profit from online sales, plus money from PS Plus. Who's getting screwed?
We as PC gamers. Does it matter who gets the money from game sales to us?
PC gamer has to pay full production costs + profit margins on PC parts then he has to pay game publisher + distributer (Valve/Epic etc.) to buy games from them unless he pirates them.
I'm OK with paying a bit extra for freedom PC is giving me, but as things stand right now PC's GPU equivalent to XBox X' GPU (aka 2080S) costs $200-300 more than complete XBox X package.
That's plain crazy. AMD/Intel/Ngreedia are pushing profit margins on DIY PC builds so high that DIY PC gaming builds might become a luxury only rich can afford.
I can definitely see the future where most of PC gamers migrate to streaming solutions and consoles because of pricing.
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#13
dyonoctis
RedelZaVedno
It's really not anymore. It's x86 system with Zen2/RDNA2 tech in it, same is true for Xbox X. These things could run Windows 10/Linux without a problem if MS/Sony would support it. I insist that we're getting screwed price wise big time.
The cpu is x86, but the whole platform is still tailor made for sony/microsoft. Seeing how the specs are slightly different for both consoles, I wouldn't be surprised to know that AMD shared a huge chunck of the SoC R&D with them, vanilla Ryzen doesn't work with a GDDR memory configuration. Same arch, but the behavior of the system isn't the same, it's optimized for gaming.

The bussiness model is also just so different. The cpu/gpu that you are buying off the shelves got the R&D and marketing included in the price. Meanwhile game consoles are often being sold at a loss. Yhea you are buying hardware, but there's a shitload of software that comes with it, and that's where a big part of their money is coming from. When you buy a cpu/gpu from AMD/Intel/Nvidia, you don't have to pay for any of the services that they are going to provide you. The money that you gave them then, is the only money that they will see from you until your next uppgrade.
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#14
medi01
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
Yeah, great stuff, too bad it's locked.
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#15
PerfectWave
i guess price for games will rise to 69 euros
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#16
RedelZaVedno
dyonoctis
The cpu is x86, but the whole platform is still tailor made for sony/microsoft. Seeing how the specs are slightly different for both consoles, I wouldn't be surprised to know that AMD shared a huge chunck of the SoC R&D with them, vanilla Ryzen doesn't work with a GDDR memory configuration. Same arch, but the behavior of the system isn't the same, it's optimized for gaming.

The bussiness model is also just so different. The cpu/gpu that you are buying off the shelves got the R&D and marketing included in the price. Meanwhile game consoles are often being sold at a loss. Yhea you are buying hardware, but there's a shitload of software that comes with it, and that's where a big part of their money is coming from. When you buy a cpu/gpu from AMD/Intel/Nvidia, you don't have to pay for any of the services that they are going to provide you. The money that you gave them then, is the only money that they will see from you until your next uppgrade.
I understand all that and I'm willing to pay a premium to have "PC freedom of choice". With that being said, pricing of retail PC parts has become just ridiculous. I remember times when we used to pay $400-500 for the best gaming GPUs on the market and look where we're at now, $1.2K and price hikes probably won't stop here. Meanwhile profit margins of AMD/Intel/NVidia keep going up and up and up. I truly believe this can kill DIY gaming PC market if it continues because consoles and even streaming solutions are becoming very viable-cheaper alternatives especially now in economic meltdown.
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#17
ERazer
Plus VR headset, yeah they will get their money back later.
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#18
AnarchoPrimitiv
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
The GPU architecture in the PS5/XBsX is RDNA2 though, not RDNA1 like with the 5700XT, so I'm not sure if the monetary value of the graphical horsepower in the PS5 (or the XBsX) is so easily quantifiable until we've seen and assessed the capability of RDNA2 once it's released.

... And I wouldn't conclude that PC gamers are screwed just yet until you're able to do a spreadsheet or edit a video on a console. Even those that claim they "only use their PC for gaming" in reality, use it for more than just gaming. Even if those uses are just the banal or mundane tasks we do everyday on a PC, you're still not able to do them on a console. Once you're able to use Microsoft Word or file your taxes on an unmodified console is when I'll start feeling "screwed".
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#19
RedelZaVedno
AnarchoPrimitiv
The GPU architecture in the PS5/XBsX is RDNA2 though, not RDNA1 like with the 5700XT, so I'm not sure if the monetary value of the graphical horsepower in the PS5 (or the XBsX) is so easily quantifiable until we've seen and assessed the capability of RDNA2 once it's released.
PS5/XBsX GPUs will have better performance than 5700XT and probably even 2080S , there's no doubt about it. Partly because of much better game software optimization compared to PC, partly because it's a newer arch. That only strengthen the argument of 5700XT and 2070S/2080S being way overpriced. We're paying top $ for what will be mid range performance by the end of 2020.
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#20
Metroid
I had this prediction while ago, $100 for the drive, in my view the digital version is the way to go.
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#21
Octavean
RedelZaVedno
I understand all that and I'm willing to pay a premium to have "PC freedom of choice". With that being said, pricing of retail PC parts has become just ridiculous. I remember times when we used to pay $400-500 for the best gaming GPUs on the market and look where we're at now, $1.2K and price hikes probably won't stop here. Meanwhile profit margins of AMD/Intel/NVidia keep going up and up and up. I truly believe this can kill DIY gaming PC market if it continues because consoles and even streaming solutions are becoming very viable-cheaper alternatives especially now in economic meltdown.
Anything is possible,....

However, the PC gaming industry should remain viable provided that there is a healthy and reasonably priced mid to upper mid level market. In which case it doesn't necessarily matter if the high end of the spectrum is ~$1.2K or more if the performance level is reasonable at the ~$300 to ~$500 range (I'm referring to video cards alone here).

On the other hand, consoles are indeed alternatives to PC gaming and to a lesser extent so too are game streaming services.

I'll also point out that PC are also popular because they can do real work. Not everyone fires up a PC only for gaming.
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#22
hardcore_gamer
I'd rather buy used games and save much more than $100.
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#23
ShurikN
hardcore_gamer
I'd rather buy used games and save much more than $100.
Great point, totally slipped my (and by the looks everyone's) mind.
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#24
_Flare
RedelZaVedno
Just €399? Awesome pricing. It's basically Ryzen 7 3700x (€290) + RX 5700XT (€380) + 1TB NVMe SSD (€150) + 16GB GDDR6 RAM (around €100) = 920€
Add MB/PSU/Case/ and you're in €1.2K price territory.
My God, we PC gamers are getting so screwed :(
For standard usage of the UE5 a card like 2070Super would be required Tim Sweeney said, so a PS5 will at least have its bandwidth for its GPU thats for sure.
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#25
BoboOOZ
Now let's see what the XBox pricing will be.

Who knows, maybe Microsoft will decide to make the console OS accessible, it's running windows anyway...
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