Sunday, July 12th 2020
NVIDIA Prepares to Stop Production of Popular RTX 20-series SKUs, Raise Prices
With its GeForce RTX 30-series "Ampere" graphics cards on the horizon, NVIDIA has reportedly taken the first steps toward discontinuing popular SKUs in its current RTX 20-series graphics cards. Chinese publication ITHome reports that several premium RTX 20-series SKUs, which include the RTX 2070, RTX 2070 Super, RTX 2080 Super, and the RTX 2080 Ti, are on the chopping block, meaning that NVIDIA partners are placing the last orders with upstream suppliers for parts that make up their graphics cards based on these GPUs.
It is a slow process toward product discontinuation from this point, which usually takes 6-9 months, as the market is left to soak up leftover inventory. Another juicy bit of information from the ITHome report is NVIDIA allegedly guiding its partners to increase prices of its current-gen high-end graphics cards in response to a renewal in interest in crypto-currency, which could drive up demand for graphics cards. NVIDIA is expected to announce its GeForce RTX 30-series on September 17, 2020.
Sources:
ITHome, Tom's Hardware
It is a slow process toward product discontinuation from this point, which usually takes 6-9 months, as the market is left to soak up leftover inventory. Another juicy bit of information from the ITHome report is NVIDIA allegedly guiding its partners to increase prices of its current-gen high-end graphics cards in response to a renewal in interest in crypto-currency, which could drive up demand for graphics cards. NVIDIA is expected to announce its GeForce RTX 30-series on September 17, 2020.
66 Comments on NVIDIA Prepares to Stop Production of Popular RTX 20-series SKUs, Raise Prices
NVIDIA wants to raise the price of the RTX2000 series with all partners, this way the RTX3000 series can be introduced at an higher price giving more value to the RTX3000 series compared to RTX2000 series.
Then after the RTX3000 is introduced they can make a FAKE price cut to the RTX2000 series based on the new inflated price.
This way they get a higher introduction price of the RTX3000 without it seaming to weird AND a sell out price of the RTX2000 that is basically the same as today.
Let me show you an example of EVGA RTX 2070 Super Gaming priced at approx $519 at Amazon.com today:
1. Today they raise the price of RTX2070 from $519 to $650
2. In end of August they introduce RTX3070 at $699
3. In beginning of September they lower the price of RTX2070 to $499 as a "SALE" to dump stock
4. End of September they release RTX3070 at $699
Now you have a BIG FAKE SALE to dump stock of RTX2070 in September at the same price as you actually can buy the card for today.
They created an illusion of dropping the price that they just inflated, THIS IS CLASSIC PRICE MANIPULATION TO SCREW YOUR CUSTOMERS.
On top of all this they are trying to use a FAKE EXCUSE of "increased mining demand" that is non existing at this point as a cover to raise the price of the RTX 2000 series.
Since NVIDIA is involving its partners it must be seen as an ILLEGAL PRICE SYNDICATE to manipulate prices with a fake cover story, a class action suit waiting to happen for sure.
I have now made snapshot of prices with all major vendors within EU, if NVIDIA goes ahead with this price increase before the RTX 3000 release I will report them to the appropriate EU authorities.
Just by incident, it's where the 5700 series are performance wise.
Hopefully, when next gen cards come, NV would have better RT performance, this would reduce number of green meltdowns.
AMD will have great products in under 1k $ space, which is where 99% of the market is.
well ... my 1070 was 526chf/$ ...
for sure i will not care about bench and performance and take whatever red team is putting as RX5700XT successor ... (with the "issues" to tinker with ... which i will probably never have to ... no ATI/AMD card i owned ever needed a driver rollback unlike NV's )
someone want a new leather jacket, even before 30XX launch .... :ohwell:
If a 505mm 7nm expectation is so low youre not even thinking it can match nvidias 10nm 630mm its sad,especially with 3080 being possibly a cut 102 this time.
So yeah,amds best 7nm against nvidias middle 10nm,competition these days.So much rdna2 pressure.
(oh, just realized that it would also be a way to survive next gen, if RT disparity ain't there)I expect rough perf/transistor parity (Navi <=> Tesla) to persist into next gen.
nvidia's 10nm card.amd's 7nm card.
not nvidia's 10nm process or amd's 7nm process.
too hard for you ?
lol,perf/transistor.
Although, yeah, apples to oranges comparison (250mm2 7nm chip vs 750mm2 12nm one) look funny when this metric is applied. But so they should.
And, speaking of confidence, I find it apparent, that NV will be getting more and more upset by AMD offerings, as time goes. Shortly, AMD will also go oversized chips, covering entire GPU market. Intel, on the other hand, will disrupt NVs GPU market.
how about beat with a node down ? they have 7nm process available with 95MT/mm why not beat the living crap out of Nvidia's cards made on 64MT/mm ?
sad.it's enough if you want entire upper end to nvidia apparently.
so look at amd's non-existent offerings next time you whine about g102 cards being expensive.
Picking up does not mean mining craze by the way. Given the lower energy prices, it may make it more attractive to start some mining activity.
As to whether people still use GPU to mine, I am not sure since I don't do crypto mining. But I believe it will still make sense for some people to utilize GPU for mining. Afterall if one chooses not to continue doing crypto mining, they can still sell the GPU.
1. We only have a rumor of a rumor Nvidia wants to raise prices. Prices are what the market dictates. Initially I thought Turing was way too expensive, but it seems Nvidia had no problem moving the parts. So don't worry about that.
2. Process names are mostly indicative. Everybody knows they don't tell much (if anything) and you have to be familiar with each process to be able to compare between them.
If RDNA cannot scale on the same magnitude as Turing it's better to just own it rather than trying to make that tech do something that it wasn't meant to do. At the end of the day the Radeon wing still need to make money to not be a dead weight and keep founding the R&D, they cannot just keep scratching every design that isn't up to par with Nvidia offering.
But it's true that the comments about Nvidia sweating about a product that we know nothing about are somewhat wacky.
I'll buy next GPU when I get 1080TI + 50% level of performance for $600. The price I payed for 1080TI. If that means skipping another generation of GPUs, so be it. I can wait.
I have a strong feeling that nCoV will render the JHH Kool-Aid worthless this round if they indeed go for a much higher price than the already overpriced Turing. You simply can't beat nature or pandemics, eventually the real economy & global downturn will catch up & then who knows Nvidia may not have the time or enough room to move chips through the consumer market! Like Intel Nvidia's fall is gonna be spectacular & it will be their own doing, just like Intel. Only a matter of when, not if.
Now I guess we can wait to see everyone wanting to sell them for like 2-3x what they paid for them, so they can afford the 3x cards when they come out....
When did AMD roll out bigger chip that was remarkably not gaining performance vs its smaller chips?No, not just upsat, as Tesla was already disrupted ('upset") by Navi, but more upset. Which will inevitably include datacenter business.
You know, "GSync is dead" kind of upset.That excuse could have been applied to most of the GPU history. AMD was notoriously the first to embrace the next node (and it hit them harder past 28nm).
NV chose Samsung's 8nm over TSMC 7nm, surely, had the gap been to big, they would not.Intel has above 100MT/mm2 (that's where their 10nm is) and tell me how it works.
I guess it's much more nuanced than single figure tells.
Had the gap between Samsung 8 and TSMC 7 been really big, leather man would have stayed with Taiwan.Actually dumb. Fanboism does not make people smarter.
They made the most advanced and expensive card ever,they just got rid od Tesla name.that counts as beating Tesla to you,lol
Same way AMD beat gtx when rtx launched.oh wait,they are still chasing 1080ti
This doesn't apply at all to 250mm2 Navi , which ties with 330mm2 Vega7 (on the same process) equipped with much more expensive memory.
The "oh, but node" doesn't apply here: chips are smaller than competition, and it is just a pit-stop node on the way to 7nm EUV.
2080ti is 1.35-1.40x.
You'll need 3070ti to get to 1.5x
Wait,that actually might be under 600.if amd play the ball.if not then 699 for sure.
Here in the UK I live alone and my electric bill is £90-£110 a month for a single person, its a 1/4 of my rent.
In 2010 I was paying around 9p per unit of electric, now I pay 15p, my standing fee for electric has tripled in the same 10 year period.