Tuesday, June 1st 2021

NVIDIA Announces GeForce RTX 3080 Ti ($1200) and RTX 3070 Ti ($600)

NVIDIA today unveiled two additions to the GeForce RTX family—the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti and GeForce RTX 3070 Ti—available soon from its global network of GeForce partners. The new flagship gaming GPU of the GeForce RTX family, the RTX 3080 Ti will be available worldwide June 3 starting at $1,199, with the RTX 3070 Ti available next week starting at $599.

While previous-generation GPUs tackled the ambitious games of their era, contemporary games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Watch Dogs: Legion have elevated realism—and increased overall demands of modern graphics cards. Powered by the NVIDIA Ampere architecture, the RTX 3080 Ti delivers an incredible leap in performance and fidelity with acclaimed features such as raytracing, NVIDIA DLSS performance-boosting AI, NVIDIA Reflex latency-reduction, NVIDIA Broadcast streaming features and additional memory that allows it to speed through the most popular creator applications as well.
"With RTX such a huge success, gamers and creators will be thrilled with the performance and features the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti offers," said Jeff Fisher, senior vice president of the GeForce business unit at NVIDIA. "As the new flagship to the RTX family, the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti is the ultimate upgrade for GPU enthusiasts of any generation."

Unsurpassed Performance
Across a variety of ray-traced and rasterized DirectX and Vulkan titles, the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti is a gaming powerhouse that also brings lower latency for better responsiveness and a competitive edge to the games millions of people are playing today.

For gamers still rocking the well-loved GTX 1080 Ti, the RTX 3080 Ti is 2x faster in traditional rasterization and much faster with ray tracing and other cutting-edge gaming features enabled.

The GeForce RTX 3070 Ti is just as impressive in its price class, delivering 1.5x more performance over the GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER and 2x the frames per second over the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti, which launched in 2017.

Watch the first 4K raytracing gameplay footage featuring DOOM Eternal running on a GeForce RTX 3080 Ti.

Perfect for Creators, Too
The world's 45 million-plus creative professionals demand more from their hardware than ever, so GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GPUs deliver amped up levels of creative performance as well.

Backed by the NVIDIA Studio platform and powered with 12 GB of GDDR6X memory for creative applications, RTX is accelerating the No. 1 photography application — Adobe Photoshop; the No. 1 video editing application — Adobe Premiere Pro; the No. 1 broadcast application — OBS; and every major 3D renderer. There are now over 70 content creation applications that support RTX-accelerated raytracing, DLSS or AI features.

NVIDIA DLSS: The AI Gift That Gamers Love
AI is revolutionizing gaming—from in-game physics and animation simulation to real-time rendering and AI-assisted broadcasting features. Powered by dedicated AI processors on GeForce RTX GPUs called Tensor Cores, NVIDIA DLSS boosts frame rates while generating beautiful, crisp game images and it gives gamers the performance headroom to maximize raytracing settings and increase output resolutions.

Adoption of DLSS technology has been swift, and the game title count is set to increase quickly with support in the world's leading licensed game engines, Unreal Engine and Unity Engine. The all-star lineup of gaming franchises that use DLSS to deliver a new level of graphics includes Battlefield, Call of Duty, Cyberpunk, Fortnite, Minecraft, Tomb Raider and many more.

NVIDIA Reflex and Broadcast: The Ultimate Play
NVIDIA Reflex technology reduces system latency (or input lag), making games more responsive and giving players in competitive multiplayer titles an edge over the opposition. In fact, 12 out of the top 15 most played competitive shooters now support Reflex, including Apex Legends, Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, Call of Duty: Warzone, Fortnite, Overwatch, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege and Valorant, and it is coming soon to Escape from Tarkov and Crossfire.

NVIDIA Broadcast is a suite of audio and video AI enhancements, including virtual backgrounds, motion capture and advanced noise removal, that users can apply to chats, Skype calls and video conferences.

Where to Buy
The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti will be available on June 3 starting at $1,199, with the RTX 3070 Ti available on June 10 starting at $599. Both GPUs will be available for purchase as custom boards—including stock-clocked and factory-overclocked models—from leading add-in card providers, including ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galax, GIGABYTE, Inno3D, MSI, Palit, PNY, Zotac and other regional providers around the world.

Limited-edition NVIDIA Founders Edition boards will also be available. Look for GeForce RTX 3080 Ti and GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GPUs at major retailers and etailers, as well as in gaming systems from major manufacturers and leading system builders worldwide.
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106 Comments on NVIDIA Announces GeForce RTX 3080 Ti ($1200) and RTX 3070 Ti ($600)

#51
RedelZaVedno
Just done a quick calculation to show how much an apple like "luxury product" dGPUs have become in the last 9 years:

Median household income in the United States (in 2019 U.S. dollars) $54.569 (2012) - $68.703 (2019) = +26% increase...
EU households saw even lower income increase of +15%.

While nVidia's top tier GeForce GPU MSRP pricing went up whooping +100% (from $499 (GTX 680 )to $999 (2080TI) and now even 200 bucks / +140% more with 3080TI)
There's a HUGE gap between household income growth and NGreedia's pricing policy, closely followed by AMD. That's just insane and some ppl still try to rationalize & justify these price hikes. There is no excuse, nVidia is milking sh$t out of dGPU buyers by exploiting their market maker position. That's why their gross profit margin went up from 29 to whooping 63% in the last decade.
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#52
R0H1T
Are we just stopping at core counts, did you miss the massive IPC increase? This is why I stopped at 2019, zen3 was undoubtedly worse perf/$ than zen2 but still much better than the prices zen debuted at.
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#53
las
3070 Ti is not going to be much faster than 3070 at 1440p thats for sure. All they did is add 256 more cores and raise power limit (by 50 watts) + clockspeed up by 50-75 MHz

I expect a 5% difference between a custom 3070 and a custom 3070 Ti with max OC on both. For 100 dollars more, and 9-12 months of waiting? Seems like bad value, espeially when prices are going to be doubled or even tripled compared to MSRP today, back when 3070 came out, it actually sold for MSRP or close

None of them will be good for 4K gaming long term so the extra bandwidth is kinda useless on the 3070 Ti, pretty much all 3070 does 512GB/s minimum (+1000) and some even +1100-1200 but it does not result in much performance compared to stock at 1440p, because bandwidth is not the bottleneck
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#54
Chaitanya
CybrshrkAgain I'm not expert and I know "msrp" and the amount in USD for us may not does not HAVE to be the same for other places.

Like I get that its nice when we all pay the same but it's just not how the world works in some cases.

You guys get steam games for pennies on the dollar compared to us in a lot cases but again their an economic reason for this and it's something the can accommodate.

I assume the pricing you of physical goods works differently than digital and they just can't make what you want work with whatever tarrif / tax / etc that may be involved with selling the physical good in your country.


Sorry but this is normal for enthusiast markets were always paying extremely high costs beyond what many would consider "reasonable" usually for very little gain (but it's still a gain and it still puts us on top so we go for it)

That's what being part of the enthusiast market is about.

You absolutely don't need to be a part of it if you don't find that kind of thing of interest.

But many do it's why Lambos and Ferraris exist.


And that my friend is unfortunately likley your own people taking advantage of each other.

Not a lot the rest of the world can do when it's your own businesses marking you up.
Apart from retailers taking advantage it is also nVidia who has priced their new offerings(FE) beyond what generally is reasonable hike due to taxes.
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#55
Chomiq
R-T-BFounders editions are not, per nvidia statements for past cards. So it's certainly worth asking. It's not a given.
Seeing how they never reappeared at Polish NV store they might as well be. Right now I think they only update US stock at BB, UK stock at Scan and some store in Germany.
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#56
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
ChomiqSeeing how they never reappeared at Polish NV store they might as well be. Right now I think they only update US stock at BB, UK stock at Scan and some store in Germany.
Nvidia specifically said they werent going to sell direct anymore due to bots. They are leaving it up to their choice of a retailer to do that for their FE cards. BB has a pretty good system to mitigate bots.
RedelZaVednoJust done a quick calculation to show how much an apple like "luxury product" dGPUs have become in the last 9 years:

Median household income in the United States (in 2019 U.S. dollars) $54.569 (2012) - $68.703 (2019) = +26% increase...
EU households saw even lower income increase of +15%.

While NGreedia's top tier GeForce GPU MSRP pricing went up whooping +100% (from $499 (GTX 680 )to $999 (2080TI) and now even 200 bucks / +140% more with 3080TI)
There's a HUGE gap between household income growth and NGreedia's pricing policy, closely followed by AMD. That's just insane and some ppl still try to rationalize & justify these price hikes. There is no excuse, Ngreedia is milking sh$t out of dGPU buyers by exploiting their market maker position. That's why their gross profit margin went up from 29 to whooping 63% in the last decade.
1. Looking at median household income in the US is probably irrelevant to this discussion. The people who might actually buy a card like this don't exactly fall at or below the median anyways. They probably fall quite a bit higher with a good amount of disposable income.

2. Then don't buy them?

I have not seen a single post in this thread rationalizing these prices.

Its been 3 pages of people complaining about it.

The vast majority of people buying these kinds of cards Ti, Titan, 3090, 6900xt, etc pricing does not matter to them so it always amazes me when people who were never going to get the card in these forums bitch about it trying to make it out like these cards are even remotely intending to strike some kind of price/perf deal. And maybe take a step back and think about the possibility that Nvidia may have priced this card in such a way that might be less appealing for scalpers. Align better with limitted supply, etc. etc.
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#57
Slizzo
RedelZaVednoNormal??? Far from it. Some recent high end dGPU history (price/performance value):

2013: 780TI vs GTX 680 = +66% performance increase & 200$ MSRP price increase
2015: 980TI vs 780TI = +28% performance increase & 50$ price REDUCTION
2017: 1080TI vs 980TI = +67% performance increase & 50$ price increase
2019: 2080TI vs 1080TI = +26% performance increase & 300$ price increase!!!
2021: 3080TI vs 2080TI = +40% performance increase & 200$ price increase

NGreedia went from charging $500 to $1200 bucks for top tier gaming GPU in just 9 years...240% price increase in time frame when cumulative USD inflation was 16,3%. Why the hell are people still defending NGreedia's and AMD's MSRP price hikes???
On that last point you made, Founders Edition for Founders Edition on 2080Ti and 3080Ti is the same price. 2080Ti FE was $1200, and the "$1000" 2080Ti actually had a different core than the 2080 Ti FE and other cards based around its' core.
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#58
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Im actually okay with this price since it sounds like, just from this thread, itll deter more people from buying. So maybe ill actually get a card and put this old ass 1070 to rest.
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#59
ymbaja
CybrshrkI think for many the Ti will still look like a pretty solid value compared to what they might have to pay for a 3080 of they go elsewhere.
Ain’t lookin like a solid value to me…

but then again I’m a little bitter because my hd4850 just started artifacting again and I’ve got to fire the oven back up.
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#60
JinuIslife8
Ah yes, new GPUs that possibly no gamer or builders would get hands-on other than bots and miners.
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#62
hathoward
This makes a 3090 FE purchase look like a steal. Guess Nvidia is cutting scalpers out by inflating their MSRP for no perceivable performance gains. At least you might be lucky enough to get one of these cards into a shopping cart before it's sold out.
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#63
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
hathowardThis makes a 3090 FE purchase look like a steal. Guess Nvidia is cutting scalpers out by inflating their MSRP for no perceivable performance gains. At least you might be lucky enough to get one of these cards into a shopping cart before it's sold out.
Honestly was kind of hoping they might do this. 3080 and 3070 was priced pretty well imo, less than i thought they would be (3080 mainly) and that showed pretty fast as soon as they hit the market. People bought up the very little supply there was pretty damn fast.

2080 MSRP was $799. 3080 was cheaper at launch ($699), and performed about 30% better. The "cheaper" part didn't exactly last long though after companies like Asus hiked prices due to "alleged" components shortage.
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#64
Minus Infinity
3080 Ti is biggest rip-off I've seen in years. Huang is laughing his @ss off at the moment, and AIB cards will hit $1599 for sure for some models. Oh well I hope it all blows up in their face, not that anyone will buy these. Even the 3070 Ti is a rip, just buy a stock 3080.
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#65
Xex360
Not a word about availability or how to combat the stupid pricing, as now scalpers' prices are the same as normal prices at legitimate retailers.
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#66
Solid State Soul ( SSS )
Remember when the top end Ti models used to cost 700$ ?

Good times, now with raytracing, nvidia has an excuse to charge us higher, just when high resloution high refresh rate gaming started to become affordable, this shit happens, yeah this gen of consoles are going to be VERY popular.
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#67
N3M3515
MxPhenom 216Honestly was kind of hoping they might do this. 3080 and 3070 was priced pretty well imo, less than i thought they would be (3080 mainly) and that showed pretty fast as soon as they hit the market. People bought up the very little supply there was pretty damn fast.

2080 MSRP was $799. 3080 was cheaper at launch ($699), and performed about 30% better. The "cheaper" part didn't exactly last long though after companies like Asus hiked prices due to "alleged" components shortage.
2080 at 800 was very overpriced
3080 at 700 was overpriced (not very but still xD)

Yes, big pockets will buy them at whatever price BUT, there were people that before could afford them (when gpus weren't as overpriced as per touring gen) that now can't, those are the complainers.
I also complain, because $200 - $250 bracket has been left in the fucking dust :( .
Solid State Soul ( SSS )Remember when the top end Ti models used to cost 700$ ?

Good times, now with raytracing, nvidia has an excuse to charge us higher, just when high resloution high refresh rate gaming started to become affordable, this shit happens, yeah this gen of consoles are going to be VERY popular.
And charge us higher for nothing, because gpus always evolve and bring new features....
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#68
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
N3M35152080 at 800 was very overpriced
3080 at 700 was overpriced (not very but still xD)

Yes, big pockets will buy them at whatever price BUT, there were people that before could afford them (when gpus weren't as overpriced as per touring gen) that now can't, those are the complainers.
I also complain, because $200 - $250 bracket has been left in the fucking dust :( .


And charge us higher for nothing, because gpus always evolve and bring new features....
The hell do you consider a fair price for a high end card (3080)????

Do not say $500. Its not 2005 anymore.

Come on dude....
Minus Infinity3080 Ti is biggest rip-off I've seen in years. Huang is laughing his @ss off at the moment, and AIB cards will hit $1599 for sure for some models. Oh well I hope it all blows up in their face, not that anyone will buy these. Even the 3070 Ti is a rip, just buy a stock 3080.
There will definitely be people buying these cards. I already know several who plan to camp out at a Microcenter or stalk the hell out of BB.com on launch day.
Xex360Not a word about availability or how to combat the stupid pricing, as now scalpers' prices are the same as normal prices at legitimate retailers.
There is absolutely zero scalping via legit retailers. Show me one, that isn't being sold through a retailer by a third party.
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#69
N3M3515
MxPhenom 216The hell do you consider a fair price for a high end card (3080)????
I'd say $600. Think of something.......in the past, the absolute best was $500 as you said. Now the absolute best is $1500. That BS about titan cards not being for gaming is for ignorants. They just fucking invented that bracket out of thin air and people just swallowed it all. But hey.......It's their money i guess :D
PD: Don't mention sli/cf on a stick.......that bs never worked.
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#70
RandAlThor
Watch out, he is gonna come back at that argument with "INFLATION!!!!", even thought there was like 15% inflation in the last 10 years and not 100%.
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#71
Xex360
MxPhenom 216There is absolutely zero scalping via legit retailers. Show me one, that isn't being sold through a retailer by a third party.
Of course their prices are the same as scalpers, they sell the cards for around 3 times more than before.
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#72
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
N3M3515I'd say $600. Think of something.......in the past, the absolute best was $500 as you said. Now the absolute best is $1500. That BS about titan cards not being for gaming is for ignorants. They just fucking invented that bracket out of thin air and people just swallowed it all. But hey.......It's their money i guess :D
PD: Don't mention sli/cf on a stick.......that bs never worked.
In 2007 the 8800 Ultra MSRP was $600.

I mean Titan cards did do a bit better in Compute than normal Geforce cards which was appealing to those who did CAD work or other compute workflows without spending double or triple that for a quadro or tesla card.

But i think more gamers ended up buying them anyways.

Moral of the story, you want the absolute best, better pony up i guess.
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#73
Chomiq
MxPhenom 216There is absolutely zero scalping via legit retailers. Show me one, that isn't being sold through a retailer by a third party.
You'd be surprised what happens across the pond.

Caseking in Germany


X-kom in Poland, yes that's a minimum of $1800 for 3070.
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#74
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Xex360Of course their prices are the same as scalpers, they sell the cards for around 3 times more than before.
Show me. I have yet to see one thst isnt some bs third party selling through walmart, newegg, Amazon for scalper pricing. Thats nothing to do with Amazon, newegg, walmart etc. Actual cards sold by them are at MSRP or whatever the AIB has set price for.
ChomiqYou'd be surprised what happens across the pond.

Caseking in Germany


X-kom in Poland, yes that's a minimum of $1800 for 3070.
I mean theres exchange rates and shit at play here, no? Also do these sellers allow third parties to sell through them like Amazon and Newegg?
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#75
Chomiq
MxPhenom 216I mean theres exchange rates and shit at play here, no? Also do these sellers allow third parties to sell through them like Amazon and Newegg?
These are official retailers, no 3rd party sellers, exchange rates didn't just magically jump 300% only for GPUs.

^ That's PLN to USD exchange rate over the past year. No drastic changes.

Price for RTX 3060 should be around 2000 PLN, 2700 PLN for 3070, 3600 PLN for 3080. Currently they are pretty much tripple of what they should cost and it's like that since January this year.
Sure, you might be lucky to be in US, but pretty much everyone outside is getting screwed by retailers/distributors/manufacturers etc.
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